Fund companies are now becoming increasingly vocal about the maelstrom unleashed by SEBI’s regulatory moves. But do they need to look at their own actions and flawed business models too?
After putting up a brave face for most part of the year about the market regulator's frequent changes, fund companies are slowly but surely exhibiting frustration. While the steady erosion in the corpus of mutual funds has caused some discomfort among asset management companies (AMCs), the recent sharp decline in profits seem to be the tipping point for fund companies. The Mint, which has been an unstinted champion of regulatory actions, naively arguing that they were pro-investor, has now started to voice concerns of the fund companies about the regulator's actions.
Till only a few months ago, AMCs were strangely silent about the whirlwind regulatory changes introduced by the Securities and Exchange Board of India (SEBI). Despite the turmoil that they experienced, AMCs agreed that they would be able to "adjust" to the changes. Now, fund companies are becoming vocal in their criticism of the regulator's actions. SEBI, meanwhile, thinks that companies are coping well with the regulations.
Faced with a sharp reduction in profits amid continuing haemorrhaging of assets under management (AUM), AMCs are not willing to suffer silently any more. Equity mutual funds have witnessed an outflow of Rs29,000 crore so far in this calendar year. Since the ban on entry load imposed by SEBI last August, the total outflow has touched a whopping Rs38,500 crore.
However, this drain was not reflected in the financial results of fund companies for the year ended March 2010. This was because of the phenomenal surge in stock markets that got transferred on to the balance sheet and income statements of the companies. The resulting inflation in the value of AUMs was responsible for the companies showing healthy profits in their books for the last year, since fund companies make a percentage of AUMs. Now however, the story is quite different. The Mint report points out that several AMCs have reported a sharp decline in profits, with some like ICICI Prudential Asset Management Co and Kotak Mahindra Asset Management Co even posting losses for the quarter ended September 2010.
Naturally, AMCs are a worried lot. But while they are fair in their criticism of SEBI's mostly ill-conceived and ill-timed initiatives over the last year, the fact remains that AMCs had it coming for a long time. Among the chief reasons that prompted SEBI to put an end to the entry-load mechanism in mutual funds was the past excesses of fund companies. The boom period between 2005 and 2007 saw AMCs churn out new fund offers (NFOs) at a frenetic pace in a bid to capture volumes and generate more and more AUMs. This came at the expense of product and service quality.
Fund companies were actively encouraging distributors to advise investors to sell their existing funds and subscribe to NFOs. They shamelessly enticed investors with the logic that NFOs were priced at Rs10-supposedly much cheaper than existing units-when actually the issue price of NFOs is meaningless. In order to incentivise distributors to sell these NFOs, funds plied them with lavish gifts and even took them on foreign trips.
Another self-inflicting factor for AMCs has been their flawed business model. The way it is structured is that fund companies are practically at the mercy of distributors to sell their products for them. With little retail contact base of their own, these AMCs are dependent on selling skills of distributors to generate revenues. With SEBI now having dealt a telling blow to the distributor community by taking out their commissions, AMCs are suddenly left without any muscle.
Obviously, fund companies now have to substantially alter their business models to suit the altered landscape of the industry. Otherwise, a wave of consolidation of sorts could very well be on the cards.
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Of course AMC's have played a big role by bringing out redundant NFO's but all of them have been sanctioned by SEBI and have SEBI's blessings. As long as the going was good SEBI was not bothered but when markets corrected SEBI and AMC's shifted blame to IFA's who were an easy target.
As an individual distributor I was always advised that investing in equity through Mutual Fund route was the safest way for the retail investor as a fund was professionally managed and extensive research and experience protected the investors money in a falling market. Yet there were very few funds that outperformed markets during the recession and obviously ignorant of the massive fall in markets. Has SEBI taken any steps to penalise Fund Managers for failing to protect investor money. The only thing SEBI has done is penalise distributors for the loss of capital of investors when they are the least to blame.
I once again reiterate that NFO's were all released with SEBI's blessings yet I do not see any action being taken against Mr. Bhave.
Moneylife deserves compliments for allowing this discussion where concepts collided,arguments provoked,ideas flourished that engaged our intellect and enriched our perception.It has been a journey that has made us more wiser and optimistic.
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if we think rahul gandhi or soniya gandhi wont listen bcos no entry group has already met them-I think it was a past matter-now situation has become worse fro industry also-
we are not opposing No entry load-we only want to tell tem that both options should be made available to investor-after all investor is the best judge for what suits him best-
we just want to get this done-same in insurance sector can also be done-
so putting down all major points which we discuss here all the time-we can send him through a mail-
and if they are really so keen to make investments load free-let it be in all sectors,like stock broking,post office savings ,etc
why it has been brutally imposed only on MF industry.
we have all the truths on our side then why fear to face them eye to eye.kindly give yor contact no.
we will coordinate through mails very soon
Investors also share the blame they do not think while buying MF Insurance from Banks , while the same persons while do a lot of research before buying even vegetables , Grocery, they are not ready to pay for advice
Media also has double standards towards LIC. Have you seen any adverse comments on LIC endowment plan anywhere?.
SAAB GOLMAAL HAI.
I am reminded of famous Hindi proverb"HATHI NIKAL JATE HAI.CHEETI AATAK JATI HAI"
Yogeshji-the worst part is there is no voice from AMC-who are and who will be most affected by all these moves-they are certainly going to die -but still salaried people have philosophy that its not their owned business-so why to bother-they just bother for salaries-if job in MF will be gone-they will join some other field-for them working in MF industry is not believing in this field-
its not their philosophy-so none of AMC guy wants to comment on this-IFAs alone cannot fight this huge establishment working against them-
so ultimate looser is retail rural based client who will not be able to particiapte in this equity market and ultimate benificieary will be FII with P notes(politicinas)
When this sector was opened for private sector,at that time interest rates were falling and IRDA allowed LIC to offer guaranteed returns in Jeevan Sree plans?.Do you remember when LIC market share was going down again IRDA allowed Single premium plan like Jeevan Aastha with guaranteed returns?.While banning 14 life insurance companies why SEBI did not ban LIC?.
My point is like AMCs of mutual funds top management of private life insurance companies are also sleeping like "kumbhakarnas".
Media is also discrediting contribution of private life insurers.Even Moneylife recent two articles first about no progress made by private insurers in last 10 years and second about adverse claim ratio of LIC.You should read between the lines.
Media bhi Bahav ke saath behte hai.
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i feel we are talking to the walls and striking our heads with stones-so these deaf ears wont hear anything-
so i have a suggestion which can be last RAMBAN-
we should write all these issues to the only one Soniya madam,i am sure this foreign origin lady is much more better then our DESI beurocrats-and also we should e-mail all this to Rahul gandhi,if they ahve to be in power they cannot tolerate issues related to common workers like us-we need not to waste our time writing here .bcos SEBI bosses Mr Bhave and Mr Vaidhyanathan are 100% deaf and blind to these issues-they are bent on carrying out their agenda due to some vested interest-
if most of IFAs like Madhusudanji,keshav bhatji,shankarji,Deepak khemaniji and all other concerned agree for this-we can work out strartegy for mailing our voice to these leaders who will surely look into the issue-this is the last SUDARSHAN CHAKRA which we can use to remove the evils doing injustice to our livelihood which was just 2% hard earned-
pl let me know-
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I do support your idea and definitly will be avilable to the people anytime for the righ cause of IFA and retail investor welfare.
My email address is [email protected] and mobile no is +919820990209.
Only I dout wether Soniajee or rahuljee will take any interest in our cause as we are not a VOTEBANK for them, but there is no harm in trying.
Regards,
Keshav B Bhat
2 % of 1 crore is 2 lakh.
I believe it has to fixed price instead of percentage based.
and do u think they ever paid such amount?it was all pass backed in case of HNI investemnts-let the pass backs(big ticket discount ) be made legal-it prevailsin every indstry-whole sale discounts are always there-why not for big ticket sizes? and do not think for 1Cr client-
just think about 1000 Rs SIP investor or Rs 500 SIP invetsor-these inflows have dried up-one crore tickets will be coming and going
Not 2% for all the amount invested via SIP.
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I am not in favour of Share Broker or unfavour to IFAs, because I am Also a IFA, I am in favour of not to race of Brokerage Payment to IFAs from where wrong selling is starting, which was started by AMCs it self from year 2000s a have no comment whether it is from Entry Load or From AMCs, because either or any way all payouts comes only from Investors' pocket. I strongly favor about transparent system.
i agree to you that we have been suggested by Mr Vivek to change business-to me ideas of both of you is acceptable-bcos mehnat ki kamai se to is desh me na ijjat hai,na pet bahrta hai,na gadi chalti hai,to kyo na maovadi ban jaye-kam se kam is desh ke logo ke kuch bhalai ka kam to kar sakenge-me to hamesh mera beta hamesha mujh se kahta hai ki"papa aap to imandari karne ke karan kabhi aage nahi aaye-kam se kam hame yeh bate mat sikhao.ham to kisi ki parwah nahi karenge-jaha hamara fayda hoga voh bindast karenge-"and friends i cant argue him bcos what he says is 100% true-people like we who were working honestly have been punished for no fault of us-and those who dealt with malpractices are eating sweets''
It is true there is always Ram and ravan and both of them have their followers. Ravan had all the education and knew all vedas but he and his followers used to enjoy harrasing innocent. same way today with all education and knowledge got the IFAS and the retail investors to harras pray GOD "may ram will appear in some way and finish this present day ravan and his followers at the earliest"
I think QUANTUM MUTUAL FUND is one created by the very ungrateful people in MF industry, they even do not realise that their fund house could enter the MF bussiness because of the hard work of honest IFAs who created awarness about MF among the common people. They bost themselves having saved the investors money avoiding distributors. May I ask one question if it is so where did the money go as i dont find any of their fund performing better. first off all what is their investor BASE? you will find hardly any retail investors go and invest in their funds. Even then they have the courrage to publish all sorts of lies about their performance and investor benefits.
May GOD save us from these people
Regards
KESHAV B BHAT
Is desh me agar 2m terrorist bano , khuni bano to bahut kuch milega lekin imandari se roti kamau to laat milega
You have not read the above article completely before posting your comment, What you are stating is what you have read in the newspapers only.
I reproduce a part of what is stated above for your reference.
"Several AMCs have reported a sharp decline in profits, with some like ICICI Prudential Asset Management Co and Kotak Mahindra Asset Management Co even posting losses for the quarter ended September 2010."
The savings of Rs 1,260 crore is not what the retail has saved but more by HNIs and large corporates.
Retail has been net sellers and not buyers.
I am really disappointed by Monica Ji because She resigned from "Outllook Money" precisely because she felt that advertisers had major say in editorial matters and precisely same is repeated in "mint".Her money show programme on NDTV Profit is co-sponsored by NSE in which Bhave was previously associated.
This raises serious questions above about its intent.The recent statements of Bhave and Vaidyanathan are conspiracy to discredit distributors.If everybody fails to understand then mutual fund industry will be ruined.It is time everybody including eminent citizens,politicians stood up for those fighting for vibrancy in mutual funds.
Over the past year SEBI has been lying blatantly and willfully about outflows.
Even in metropolitan cities the state of affairs of mutual fund industry is bad imagine about far flung areas?
While earlier SEBI seemed guilty of turning blind eye the latest actions raises question about integrity and intent.
I am reminded about Mahatma Gandhi"First they know you then they discredit you and YOU WIN".
The unabashed discredit attempt and biting have begun in full speed.THIS IS AN INDICATION THAT WE ARE GOING TO WIN.
This is the fight distributor community must win we cannot afford to lose SMALL INVESTORS to few crooks who are out to destroy mutual fund industry.
Here is an open call to take this forward not knowing what how the might of SEBI may be unleashed against distributors.
Mutual fund industry is not just at risk.It is imperiled.
IT IS DUTY OF EVERY DISTRIBUTOR TO RISE ON THE OCCASION TO SAVE IT.
Madhusudan Thakkar
We are all like front line soldiers we must get up everyday and go out where bullets of rejection fly.We must continually deal with the possibility that all our efforts could turn out to be in vain through NO FAULT OF OUR OWN.
We must keep on going in spite of this because our profession of mutual funds selling requires it.We should develop ourselves as "hardy personality" as the types most suited to the rigors of modern business world.We need to develop is resilient,optimistic,tough,capable of bouncing back from temporary disappointments and defeats.
I am reminded of what late Prithviraj Kapoor once said" YEH DIN BHI CHALA JAYEEGA"
Instead of counting the spoiled eggs see the reality if u are a retail investor and stop your imagined calculations for a cheap publicity
Regards,
Keshav B bhat
It is eassy to say go to another bussiness.
But the person who has spent enough time and energy knows the pain of the same.
Just because of these mindless experts it is not just IFAs are suffering, the retail investors themseves are put in to difficulties. To know the suffering of powerty and hunger, you can not experience it by fasting for an hour or two or a day, you have to experience it by the same conditions what common people are going through.
Regards
Keshav B bhat
On a more serious note I am reminded of quote of C.Rajgopalachari who told Nehru that "Even though majority is behind you.LOGIC IS BEHIND ME".
WE ARE COMMITTED TO AWAKEN "KUMBHAKARNAS" OF MUTUAL FUNDS INDUSTRY.
It sounds well to say investors to be educated by the AMCs, but unfortunately none of the so called saviors of investors realised how much ever you spend or programms you conduct it is imposible to reach retail customers or potential retal customers as these programs can be conducted in some venue by accomodating few people and first of all working people do not have time to attend such programmes. No dout it can be an opportunity to some experts or CFAs to earn some extra money without benifting anybody. Today AMFI bosts about conducting thosands of such programmes but never say how many people educated by this programme and how many new investos added because of these programmes. I attended few such programmes but i found the atendace is doctored by the programme conductors and just the same people attend the programme everytime. Still shamelessly they boast about it.
Regards
Keshav B bhat