When will analysts be realistic in their expectations about Infosys?

In 5 out of 8 quarters, analysts have been horribly wrong about Infosys’ results, leading to a huge gap-down opening including today. What a huge fall for a company that once declared that "under-promise and over-deliver" was its strategy

 

Infosys shares fell by over 21% from Rs2,917 to Rs2,295 today, the biggest decline in 10 years. Infosys has forecast dollar revenue to grow between 6% and 10% for the fiscal year that began this month which was less than analysts' estimates for revenue growth of as much as 12%. This seemed like a nasty surprise to the market. But was it really a surprise? Let’s see what the analysts have been expecting Infosys to do and what it has actually done over the last eight quarters, including the just-concluded quarter.

 

Instance2: Q3FY13 – When the third quarter results were out on 11 January 2013 the stock jumped by nearly 17% from Rs2,320 to Rs2,712. Infosys’ net profit at Rs2,369 crore in the December quarter was flat against the September quarter, but much better than the average estimate of analysts. Revenues of Infosys had risen 12% in the quarter to Rs10,424 crore compared to a year earlier. That was better than analyst estimates of Rs9,860 crore. This was a rare instance of Infosys surprising the market positively.

 

Instance3: Q2FY13 – On 12 October 2012 when the second quarter results of Infosys were announced the stock price fell by 5% from Rs2,531 to Rs2,396. The fall was not much as the results were largely ‘in-line’ with the street estimates, though the IT major lowered its revenue growth guidance.

 

Instance4: Q1FY13 – Here again, the performance of Infosys was far below street estimates, the stock plummeted 8% from Rs2,466 to Rs2,265. The company cut its sales forecast to 5%, much lower than the 8%-10% it had predicted. The company had forecast FY13 earnings per share (EPS) at Rs166.50, which was lower than estimates. Kotak Institutional Equities summed up the disappointing results announcement of Infosys as "From bad to worse". Analysts on average were expecting Infosys to report a net profit of Rs2,448 crore on revenue of Rs9,665 crore. however, the IT giant could manage a net profit of Rs2,289 crore with revenue of Rs9,616 crore.

 

Instance5: Q4FY12 – The share price slumped by 13% from Rs2,750 to Rs2,403. Not only did its fourth quarter sales trail estimates, its sales forecast too missed analyst estimates. Its revenue guidance at the time came as a shocker to analysts who then downgraded the stock. Infosys announced a dollar revenue guidance of 8%-10%, which was much lower than industry body Nasscom’s estimate of 11%-14% for the industry.

 

Instance6: Q3FY12 – Though the 33% rise in profit for the quarter beat analyst estimates, its revenue guidance disappointed. The stock price fell by 8% from Rs2,826 to Rs2,589. The compa ny had forecast dollar revenue growth of 16.4% for the fiscal year to 31st March, down from 17%-19% projected in October 2011. Based on consensus estimates, the firm was expected to cut its dollar revenue target for the March quarter by 1%-2% compared with what it had estimated three months ago. Instead, it has cut its fourth quarter target by as much as 3%-7%.

 

Instance7: Q2FY12 – A rare instance, when the shares rose around 7% from Rs2,509 to Rs2,680 after it announced earnings for the second quarter of FY12. The company had cut its fiscal year 2011-12 (FY12) dollar revenue target by only 1%, on account of unfavourable cross currency movements. Analysts were enthused about the fact that the firm had kept its volume growth assumptions intact, despite the increased uncertainty in the global economy.

 

Instance8: Q1FY12 – Infosys revenues missed estimates and the share price fell by 4% from Rs2,919 to Rs2,794 and continued to head lower, even though net income increased 16% over the quarter which was in line with the median analyst estimate compiled by Bloomberg. This was just the beginning of the company’s woes. Wage inflation pulled down the net profit, on a sequential basis, by 5.3% to Rs1,722 crore while revenues grew 3.2% to Rs7,485 crore.

 

As all these cases show, analysts have been consistently way off the mark in estimating Infosys's results despite continuous interaction with the management. But this stunning saga not only shows the qualtity of analysts but also shows how things have changed at Infosys. There was a time when Infosys set the standards on corporate reporting in India. It was the first company to start reporting quarterly results much before it became mandatory. Also, for years, Infosys surprised the market with its conservative guidance and superlative actual results. It believed, in the words of founder NR Narayana Murthy, in the principle of under-promise and over-deliver. It is now the possibly the reverse: promise to naive analysts and under-deliver. 

Comments
CA PRADEEP AGARWAL
1 decade ago
To be frank enough I do not agree to street expectations, makes a mockery of Democracy in Stock Market
CA PRADEEP AGARWAL
1 decade ago
What I feel, greed has taken over so much that now it looks virtually impossible to turn your backs, unless something happens drastically, plus public has also lost confidence in Share Market especially after huge chunks of buying and selling thereby it is advisable that public go in for good MF's. Let the market for Fund Managers to slug it out.
NSriramamurty
Replied to CA PRADEEP AGARWAL comment 1 decade ago
Greed and Fear is the Mantra leading Share Markets Ups & Downs.Both are to be Controlled while Playing in Stock Market.However, I do not agree that Putting your Monet in MFs is Best & Safe.Its Managaers also are like You & Me.As it is not their Money, They do not care if You Lose also.Actually- MFs & FIIs are Responsible for Markets Huge UPs & Downs, as their Trades are for Very Huge Amounts, impacting Share Prices Higly.If you are Careful on Your Portfolio, Controlling Fear & Greed, You can survive in Market,if not successful.
CA PRADEEP AGARWAL
Replied to NSriramamurty comment 1 decade ago
do agree but then to they have to show their performance to their bosses-Market buzz was that all MF's are good but HDFC scores on all.
Dayananda Kamath k
1 decade ago
when the base is small you can show 30 to 40% growth regularly. after base has grown so big repeating the same rate of growth will be herqulean. and you can estimate anything and publish to protect your reputatation. but reality will be reality.downgrding a share for not reaching the expectation of anlysts and upgrading based on expectations of the anlysts rather than on fundamentals of results is the reason for manipulations of the share prices.
CA PRADEEP AGARWAL
Replied to Dayananda Kamath k comment 1 decade ago
Do agree, but, the downside and Upside is huge in the market----means something fishy going there. As said before some media especially business media are the ones to blame because they hit twice when economy is bad, and second time by putting so high expectations that they cannot be fulfilled result DISTRESS SALE AND LOSSES
NN Balasubramanian
1 decade ago
Mr. Narayanamurthy, Mr. Nandan, Mr Mohandas Pai have quit one by one exactly for this reason. They could foresee before hand the downslide of Infosys.

NN Bala
CA PRADEEP AGARWAL
Replied to NN Balasubramanian comment 1 decade ago
feel Mohandas quit but it was for other reasons, Mr Murthy, and NANDAN had retired.
CA PRADEEP AGARWAL
Replied to NN Balasubramanian comment 1 decade ago
feel Mohandas quit but it was for other reasons, Mr Murthy, and NANDAN had retired.
manoharlalsharma
1 decade ago
When enalysit be HOPLESS than only they come down,till hope no one come-down.
It's business is depend on fortunes neverending JOURNEY.
NSriramamurty
1 decade ago
When Shares in Futures * Options fall 21% on Open, Its Buyers Holdings Long Positions in its Futures Simply Breaks Financially and suffer with Heart Attacks.SEBI is at Fault for prescribing Minimum Value of Rs Two Lakhs ,without any Maximum Value Limitfor a Lot.SEBI must Reduce Minmum Value Lot to Rs. One Lakh with Maximum of Rs. Three Lakhs,for the Survival of Investors/ Traders.SEBI could not do anything for Volatality ,except Collecting Volatility Margin Amount also,Sebi shall do this much.
CA PRADEEP AGARWAL
1 decade ago
BUT THERE WAS ARTICLE THAT SILICON VALLEY PUSHING FOR 10,000 IT COMPANIES IN INDIA, WAS IT WRONG
SUNIL KUMAR HEMNANI
1 decade ago
I guess we just have to accept Growth as we have come to expect of Infy is not going to be same. Lets understand in a world with a slow down and competition only increasing ,its just getting harder.Well the growth saga is not going to come back so easily as with all Big institutions its hard to adjust to a changing environment.NRN rightly got a lot of credit ,but lets accept there are a lot of smart people around with nimble orgs .They are hungry & agile ,great things happen with such companies .Lets just accept the new reality in the IT world
R Balakrishnan
1 decade ago
We give too much credit to NRN. He was in the right place right time. And strange no body suspects why a company or how a company can meet estimates as close of 95 percent accuracy, when in real life they cant even predict the next seven days. Does it not smell of manipulation?
Replace ANALysts with coin tossing and the outcome will be no inferior
CA PRADEEP AGARWAL
Replied to R Balakrishnan comment 1 decade ago
that is the only point, hell lot of speculation going on in stock market, will say media one of the biggest culprits.
CA PRADEEP AGARWAL
Replied to CA PRADEEP AGARWAL comment 1 decade ago
90% MEDIA IS IRRESPONSIBLE ONLY 10% CAN BE SAID AS RESPONSIBLE.
Suiketu Shah
Replied to CA PRADEEP AGARWAL comment 1 decade ago
This is why its best to ignore all the media and read only moneylife.Moist of the media is paid ads by wealth management companies who give reverse calls like buying Cipla or Arvind Ltd at sky high prices.
Nilesh KAMERKAR
Replied to R Balakrishnan comment 1 decade ago
Forget seven days sir, most would not even know what breakfast they themselves will have tomorrow morning.
CA PRADEEP AGARWAL
1 decade ago
Infosys is going from bad to worse while TCS vice versa feel hell lot of back door manovering is going on in Infosys, in the last quarter the market increased expectations like never before and only to be thumped in this quarter, same happened some while back also, Do not know why speculators riding piggy backing and make mockery of SEBI/STOCK MARKET.
manoharlalsharma
1 decade ago
Your 'q'? mark for INFOSYS is a sweet dream end with opening a rays of new version.
Raj
1 decade ago
How come Infosys was able to deliver out of the world results in one quarter and the very opposite the next? I smell something fishy going on in Infosys, another Satyam perhaps?
R S Murthy
1 decade ago
After all all analysts are human beings and not celestials. Did we not see the Race Course where horses are made to run for our pleassure? Have we not seen the bull fight? Are we in order to expect Sachin Tendulkar to play in the same style or rythem that he had one or two decades back? If one realises either he becomes practical or phylosohycal. Basic human nature is to enjoy at the expense of others. Analysts are no exception.
R S Murthy
1 decade ago
After all all analysts are human beings and not celestials. Did we not see the Race Course where horses are made to run for our pleassure? Have we not seen the bull fight? Are we in order to expect Sachin Tendulkar to play in the same style or rythem that he had one or two decades back? If one realises either he becomes practical or phylosohycal. Basic human nature is to enjoy at the expense of others. Analysts are no exception.
NSriramamurty
1 decade ago
Excellent Article enlighting Traders / Investors.Usuaaly Brokers / Traders accumulate Companies Shares, hoping Results would be Good and they can sell with Profit.This is a Good Eye Openers for all as Infy fell Open many times on Results.Lesson is to Sell on Pevious day eveing of Result Announcement Day.
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