The massive money, which is raised surely shows somewhere on the balance sheet of the company, filed regularly with the MCA. The primary recipient of the information about these companies is the MCA, and surprisingly the MCA is the least proactive in the entire process of bringing these perpetrators to regulatory focus, sooner before tonnes of money vanish
As the bottom-of-the-pyramid population continues to fret about having lost one’s life savings in the West Bengal “chit funds”, it is interesting to find politicians promising new stringent laws against such funds. In fact, law-making is the least of the reasons for such schemes to have flourished in the state. However, as political connections of one of many that have gone bad are exposed, the easy face-wash for the politicians is in law-making, to cover-up what is quintessentially an implementation issue. The reality is that we are not short of such laws—in fact, we have a plenty of laws that prohibit such schemes and impose sternest penalties for the perpetrators of such scams. But if a Rs22,000-crore scheme questions the very institutions that define our system—Supreme Court, SEBI, or whoever else—there is little surprise that the only succour for political face-saving is in law-making. And this is what we have done over the decades—as the write up below shows.
This article gives a quick overview of the laws regarding “chit funds” or devices of sourcing public deposits.
First of all, the West Bengal “chit funds” are not chit funds at all. Chit funds are a different structure altogether. Chit funds are mutual credit groups where money circulates among the group members, and the monthly contributions of the chit members are received circularly by one of the members who bids for the same at the highest interest rate or lowest “net present value”. Chit funds are perfectly legal, if they are registered under the Chit Funds Act, 1982, and run under the provisions of the law. The several names that keep popping up in West Bengal are not chit funds—these are collective investment schemes or public deposit schemes which on the face of it do not fall under any law, as they are structured so as to be neither a “public deposit” nor a “collective investment scheme”. But that facial structure is so gullible that any regulatory investigation may easily expose that these schemes were effectively nothing but public deposit schemes.
The evolution of regulatory structure in India is a rare case of human learning—we have burnt our fingers every time to learn that the fire is too hot to handle. So, every scam brought a law; in essence, the law is the edifice built on scams and not on intuition.
So, with all these laws, how to scamsters still end up raising several thousands of crores? Obviously, so much money is neither raised overnight, nor raised silently enough, as there is a massive machinery of agents who raise the money from the very bottom of the population pyramid. Each scamster innovates an ingenious device, but none of these devices are not iron-clad to avoid regulatory action, provided there was a will power.
Here is an inclusive inventory of the schemes currently in use:
No matter what is the device used, the common thread in each of these schemes is that the flow of new ‘depositors’ must keep coming in, because the only source from which maturing deposits could be serviced is by inflows from new depositors. Money is initially raised at hefty interest rates, and with attractive periodic prizes, gifts, gala parties, and so on. The agents who mobilise the deposits are given hefty commissions, because the structure essentially relies on a highly incentivised structure of brokers or agents, who reach right to the doors of the depositors to collect deposits. The cost of interest, plus the agency commissions, the luxurious spendings on so-called depositor prizes, and add to all this the lavish remunerations of the promoters themselves—all adds to a huge cost of interest, say, about 25% to 30%, which no lawful business may produce. It is not that these promoters are blue-eyed investors who know tricks of investing—so, they end up investing money in illiquid properties, resorts or hotels.
Now, the only way to keep servicing investors is that new depositors must flow in, so that old depositors can be repaid. That is, the base of the depositor pyramid has to continue to expand so that those up in pyramid can be paid—this is what Ponzi schemes are all about. This is what we call “tiger riding”.
Soon, the ride comes to and, and guess what happens at the end of any tiger ride! In the process, thousands of gullible investors have lost their life savings.
As hundreds of crores are raised though tens of thousands of agents, surely enough the exercise is not invisible to the regulatory eye. The massive money which is raised, irrespective of the label, surely shows somewhere on the balance sheet of the company, which is filed regularly with the MCA (ministry of corporate affairs). The primary recipient of the information about these companies is the MCA, and surprisingly, it is the MCA which is the least proactive in the entire process of bringing these perpetrators to regulatory focus, sooner before tonnes of money vanish.
No, it certainly is not the lack of laws that allows these scamsters to rob people of hard-earned money. It is clearly an implementation issue.
(The author is a noted expert in financial laws. A lots of author’s writings appear at www.india-financing.com and www.vinodkothari.com)
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Laws are implemented after the tragedy happens!
Take the house crash at Mumbra where more than 75 people died.
Government admitted that more large portion of buildings constructed were illegal. THere is no accountability. Every law that is enacted leads to source of HAFTA for government BABUS.
Thanks to MEDIA and our COURTS without which god only help india!
Shanti Patel
You being a professional know this very clearly why MCA is the least proactive in this case. These people takes money for everything they do, whether it is incorporation, commencement of business or granting approval under the Companies Act, 1956.
You pay them and can get any approval, be it approval under Section 295 or 297 or any other sections of the Companies Act. It is us professionals that have created an atmosphere which is now maligning the image of our country and destroying the people of our country.
Its high time that as a professional you being a senior take this matter with the authorities.
1. In 1999 we filed a list of 148 companies, alongwith investor grievances that these companies have disappeared after coming out with an IPO, with MCA and SEBI for examination and inclusion in “Vanishing Companies” list. Further action was to be taken, by MCA and SEBI, as directed by Allahabad High Court in our PIL in 1999.
These Investor grievances were received by us in hardcopy in response to a hard-hitting column written by Sucheta Dalal in Indian Express giving Midas Touch and two other organisations postal address where investors could mail their grievances. The examination of the list was taken up in 2006 and is perhaps still on with MCA!
2. Similarly, we submitted a list of 604 companies to MCA in 2003 which were not available at their offices according to BSE. MCA started examination sometimes in 2006 and to the best of our knowledge, still going us. No company from this list was declared as vanishing company though MCA had confirmed- sometimes around 2007- that about 40 of them have vanished! For details you may see Minutes of CMC meetings on mca website under “Vanishing Companies”. All this happened or is taking place despite High Courts orders. It depicts the state of affairs where regulating companies is under their specific jurisdiction unlike the Sarada group of companies. There is absence of accountability and investor empowerment.
Virendra Jain
President, Midas Touch Investors Association
It's of no use being empanelled in debate, neither you can make a point nor any outcome can be there - only hear the 'barking' of others.
Your valid point was appreciated by me but Arnab always wants to draw out his own theme to extract answers. He is greatest. I've no second opinion of him. Last two days TMC has not come, tho' Derek scouting elsewhere.
Were you in a position to put that delisted co's fraud is nearly or more than a trillion rupees!? Where are those 2/2.5K co's?
Is MCA a sleeping giant?
As per 2004 amended act, the non compliance responsibility on delisting rests with not only compliance officers [CS] but also with directors & promoters, the fines / penalties can be up to 25CR, further if convicted by SEBI or the stock exchange imprisonment up to 10 yrs!
So, a simple explanation, one trillion evaporated, none of those thousands could be traced, SO WHAT? Nothing!
As per modified electricity Act of 2003, if you do not get electrical power for one hour, the service provider be it SEC has to compensate you Rs 50/- per hr!
What happens?
Absolving her Govt. & members of any wrong doing thereby blaming the center she has raised taxes on tobacco products, further asking to consume more, forget what doctors say.
Her idiotic aspect will result into rampant smuggling of the products from the neighbouring states.
Irrespective, why tax the taxpayers to bail out swindlers?
No Virendra, you don't understand they are doing it for the poor hapless, helpless & see that no one suffers with this 500CR balm of the 20KCR amount lost by [investors] sufferers!?
What do you make of the three letters as read out?
Was Lord Meghnad not upright like me stating this is a 'zero sum game'?
I've to per se draw respected Mr. Vinod Kothari, in this dialogue, simply asking him the CSE fraud of 2001. What did MCA or any other agencies do?
A JPC was [similar to today's 2G, etc] probing into it - the culprit was 'software bug' which extended the brokers financial risk w/o margins. Fine, then why brokerages from Bombay traded max in CSE?
Regards,
Had Mr.Vinod Kothari, who professes to be financial an expert would never ever had commented & put up the write up w/o MCA & in generality it was info. Read my post to him. [Neither Ms.Sucheta was wrong to post the aspects, more talented she is. She has to delve with an array of wide spectrum & her opionation always unquestioned. ]
Mr.Virendra, Mr. Vinod, financial an expert does not have in his ambit IT, neither does he seeks data to comment instead of focusing on MCA, wherein he may have not known the regulations.
Today the vanishing cos list may not even be 70/80 with MCA nor the duped amount available with the bourses & list of cos.
Mr.Vinod talks about MCA!? When Chit fund Association states that they have 30KCR AUM’s, MCA does not have a list of all cos with tally to claim. Saradha is unlisted!
However my point is where do we catch the fraudsters? Everything evaporated!
As are the bourses w/o any info? MCA accepts out of hundreds or thousands only 40 vanished, then WHAT ARE THEY DOING WITH THE OTHERS? I think Mr.Vinod will be in a better position to answer.
Mr.Virendra, when Sahara is reprimanded by the apex court [hope you’ve read my earlier posts on the subject] & Saradha is state subject what can be talked?
That is the reason I profess FSLRC to be implemented w/o fuss, get grass root people in the ambit of banking, Nilekani’s AADHAR is another a scam as there is a tussle between two ministries. My respected Nilekani is drawing flak, he should straight resign.
Regards,
What are are forgetting is that Sharada is one case that has been blown up. Is that the only one? No, there are hundred such companies, some of them were picking up monthly collections till last week. Do all of them have political connections? That is hard to believe. Political nexus has given a different shade to the episode. The real issue is that annual filings with the MCA clearly show issue of preference shares, debentures, or current liabilities, piling up in companies with very little capital. Isn't that enough of a trigger to cause an inspection? I have reasons to believe that some of these companies have even been inspected, and got a clean chit as well.
So, as for bolting of stable door - many doors are yet to be bolted. If the system acts in good time, lot of money can still be saved from being burnt.
In true spirit you have put up as a professional with your financial expertise.
If you’re a professional & financial an expert i hereby request you to answer this post.
Why you didn’t answer my earlier post. YOU WERE HAPPY WITH THE COMMENTS!? I’ll answer Mr. V.K Jain later.
Do you know Mr.Harshad Mehta was to be made an ‘Economic Minister’!? Several people were involved in the scam. Read the relevant books to understand it.
Now you’re taking a position as ‘political fall out’, INSTEAD OF STICKING TO FINANCIAL - SCAM ANALYSIS!?
FYI, no scheme can start w/o backing. The people involved are fronts. How sad you can’t get it!?
[was it not explicit in my earlier post?]
If as per your say Saradha is blown up THEN what you have to state on SAHARA ?
You’re financial an expert.
The Saradha ‘CHITGATE’, can be whooping 20KCR by conservative estimates.
Mr.Vinod Kothari, what has MCA to do with B/S filing? As financial an expert you profess they should venture into the business domain! Is this your financial expertise?
In which manner? Don’t profess wrong things to your students!
Neither Harshad Mehta nor 2G or ‘Coalgate’, would have happened? As you say i’m also not getting in between scams. Mr. Vinod Kothari, issuance of shares is of what relevance?
Fine a co. in debt with 100K times its paid up capital, CAN MCA INITIATE ANY ACTION?
WHY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WORTH OVER 400/700L ARE OWNED BY CO’s WITH a miniscule capital of 100/300K?! ON THE SALE OF THE PREMISES WHAT IS TRANSFERRED? THE CO!? Are you naïve to understand MCA? A financial an expert.
YOU STATE ROC/MCA HAD INSPECTED but fail to state the ambit of inspection & their wrongdoing. Were they struck off?
Re, Saradha I’ve no idea if you know the April 6, explosive letter written by Sen to CBI.
However Mr.Vinod Kothari, with due respect to you, as financial an expert you should have enumerated how to avoid institutional scams which hurts in real time.
Yes I agree with you that gullible can’t read. What can central regulations do when state regulations fail? How? Banning all is easy, what outcome?
As a financial an expert do you have estimate/guesstimate of non banking channels the depositors use?
The Chit fund association claims/ estimates that registered funds have 30KCR & unregistered can be 30 trillion. Total bank deposits may amount 15 odd trillion.
However the poor are credit worthy as per micro-finance, their interest rate should also reduce.
You should have opened a dialogue stating that when ‘money seeks financial products’, the substrata of lower income group can’t access it. [FSLRC financial inclusion & my narration earlier post – hardly 50% Americans are banking.]
So as a financial an expert you should understand that when there’s money at the bottom of the pyramid the wolves will be around in the concrete jungle with maze of laws.
Today AMFI proudly states that in the last decade & a half or so, investors protected.
[I’m not eulogizing AMFI in respect of returns, major funds have performed no doubt.]
Regards,
As a financial an expert bring out a 'white paper', publish it in the media & 'openly take position', to nail the culprits & laxity of the state governments in regulations.
This eve, 23rd, conclave hosted by CRISIL & S&P, Dy.Guv,RBI, K.C Chakravarty, was talking on confusion 'in financial inclusion'; narrated all the aspects with a question answer session.
Yes there has been sufficient progress, much has to be achieved, i admit.
In US 25% of the people do not have bank a/cs, high costs deters another 20%.
So our gullible people fall in the trap of conman promises of all sorts.
Sahara is only money laundering.
Forget it.
Saradha aspects are clear cut indications. Bill was to be modified, CM spoke on Sunday 21st, to the Prez, asking the earlier bill to be sent back in 24hrs!? [CAN THE CM SPEAK IN SUCH A MANNER?!]
Kunal Ghosh, MP, executive editor of the Saradha print publications, denies any wrong doing.
If so return the money instead of the CM stating 'what has gone, is gone'.!?
The deposit seeking co's flourished in the last twenty two months. [in WB]
What about WB govt.agencies being openly defrauded by deposit authorization scams?
Mr. Vinod Kothari, i've no idea about your financial expertise & reading but make it known & make no mistake in understanding that no scam can be perpetrated w/o the blessings of the higher ups.
With your financial expertise why don't you decipher 'Sahara', scam?
Dear Mr. Vinod Kothari, this is in no way intended to disparage you whatsoever [do not have the slightest feeling about it.]In fact you've given valued inputs.
Before signing off, i state that your write up put by ML is true & worthy a debate,appreciated, insight of certain aspects but not nailing the flaws for hanging.
Ms.Sucheta has always highlighted con aspects.
Regards,