QNet, the controversial MLM company is luring executives and professionals by promising a weekly income of Rs27.7 lakh. Do the math… this is about the salary that Mukesh Ambani, one of India's highest paid CEOs earns. Yet, this patently exaggerated claim by QNet is ensnaring people to invest their hard-earned money on the fake promise of an enormous wealth. Meanwhile, the company seems to operating under several different names that are designed to hide a trail to its operations
QNet, the controversial, Hong Kong-based multi-level marketing (MLM) operator with multiple names (GoldQuest, QuestNet, QNet, QI Ltd and QI group are the better known names) and identities seems to be working on a clear plan to hide the trail of its Indian operations. Interestingly, worried investors and bloggers or those burned by the pyramid marketing business are doing an excellent job of tracking its operations and publicising them. Here are some such trails gathered through helpful bloggers like Sherwette Mansour from Egypt (http://joinnetworkmarketing.wordpress.com ).
According to Wikipedia, QNet’s business model has been described as a simple pyramid scheme, where initial entrants to the scheme do make money, but as the number of IRs increase, finding more independent representatives (IRs) becomes harder and harder, until those that join late are unable to recover even their initial outlay and the model collapses. QNet counters this explanation as offering a business opportunity that doesn't have the high cost of start up as a limiting factor. When an IR recommends the product, the customer makes a purchase through QNet’s online system and the IR receives a commission based upon QNet’s compensation plan.
The compensation plan operates by the recruitment of customers by the existing IR. An IR is provided with an ID that gives access to a “Tracking Centre” (TC) in its computer system through which the IR’s sales are tracked. A TC has a left and right customer group. Every customer owns a TC which is then placed on the left or right customer side of the IR’s TC. A ‘direct’ transaction (a customer’s personal reference or sale) is counted as one transaction. An “indirect transaction (someone in the customer’s TC buys/refers/sells) is also counted as one transaction. QNet pays $250 each time three product sales on an IR’s left customer group are matched by three product sales on the right,” says Wikipedia.
According to Mr Mansour, the blogger, if you are being paid for every six new people you recruit, by 13th level down you would exceed the population of Earth. He uses example of his home country Egypt. He says, “By level 11, you will exceed the population of Egypt. So, I am assuming that the business flourish and reaches level 10, which will have 60,466,176 (6.04 crore) people. Let’s assume that all these people will join the business, keeping aside the fact that Egypt is a POOR country and not everyone can pay an average of $1,000 to join the business. By level 9, the last level making profit in the country assuming everyone will join, an average of 60,466,176x$1,000 = $60,466,176,000 ($6,046.6 crore) is sent outside the country for all members in level 9 to make profit. Please do keep in mind that this number of people entering the business is almost impossible because a small percentage of Egyptians can actually afford to pay an average of $1,000 to join the ‘business’.”
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Here are the repeat sales points (RSP) and its cash and business volume (BV) equivalents provided by QNet in its FAQs for India...

Image source-QNet FAQs for India
QNet says, its IRs can achieve rankings like Bronze Star, Silver Star, Gold Star, Platinum Star and Diamond Star, depending upon, how much he and his network or down lines sells.
Image source- QInfinite Compensation Plan for India
QNet claims that a Diamond Star can earn up to Rs27,73,800 (Rs27.7 lakh) per week while the same for a Platinum Star would be Rs22,39,050 (Rs22.4 lakh) a week. The money earned by a Diamond Star in QNet is almost the same that Mukesh Ambani of Reliance Industries (RIL), India's richest man as per the Forbes list, earns every week as salary (Mukesh Ambani forgoes Rs23.82 crore from his pay package ). We all have heard about Mr Ambani and his wealth. However, nobody knows how many Diamond or Platinum Stars are there in QNet's MLM network. If you know, then please share it.
In India, QNet’s MLM operations were controlled by QuestNet Enterprises (India) Pvt Ltd, a company registered at Chennai till 13 April 2012. From next day, it shifted all its registered agents, database and business to Vihaan Direct Selling Pvt Ltd, company registered in Bengaluru. Here are the details mentioned in the frequently asked question (FAQ) section on QNet’s site…
Image source-QNet FAQs for India
QuestNet Enterprises was operating QNEI eStore, a platform from where IRs, which is how the investor-dealers of QNet are described, could place orders or buy products and also enrol new recruits. After launching Vihaan, the company asked all its old IRs to mandatorily register under the new business name in order to receive their commissions. It is pertinent to mention that the big crackdown on its operations also occurred in Chennai when QNet operated under the name GoldQuest and sold numismatic coins.
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This post is going to be a long one as I will be describing the complete incident in detail but if you want to jump to the summary than you can directly start from the bottom where I have mentioned the incident in bullets. (Please ignore any grammar error as I am not a professional writer).
I generally don’t write much over social media or any kind of blogs, I prefer being a silent reader like many of us. You guys must be wondering then why I am writing here if I am a silent reader?
Well, what brings me here to write my first post is a strange incident that happened with me on 18/06/2019 Tuesday.
Actually, it started three days before that date on Saturday when I got a call from my colleague who has never ever called me before that day.
Before going into details of what happened with me let me tell you something about him.
He is working in the same company with me but in different department, we generally share pleasantries while crossing each other.
This guy has created an impression in the office that he is doing some kind of business along with the job and because of it he is very much affluent and was able to buy a brand new car, a house in his hometown, a new Harley Davidson bike and foreign tours every six months with his family.
He used to often share pictures of all these luxuries over his social media profiles.
Everyone in the office were surprised/jealous with the kind of success this guy has made in just 2 years with a business unknown to most of us.
So coming back to where I left, there was a missed call from him when I checked my phone, I called him back to know as what made him to call me today. He picked up my call before the phone could have finished the first ring.
He asked me as how I am and what are my plans are for the weekend as a casual acquaintance will do over the call. Soon he said that you must be aware of the fact that I am doing the business and that has changed his fortunes completely. He said that he has bought a new car, house, bike etc and all those thing in cash with this business and now he is looking for a partner who can help him to expand this business.
He asked me if I am willing to get into business as there is no personal life in job and savings are very less.
I said to him “YES†why not? If opportunity is there than why not to cash it.
Soon I asked him as a curious person would ask, what is the business you are in? And why do want me to join?
He was silent for a second and dodged the question of what business he is in by saying that he will discuss it with me in detail later on and for Why me, he said that he don’t know but just felt that I can be a perfect partner for this role.
Somehow I was not convinced with both the answers. He continued by saying that he is working with a team of CA, MBA & Engineers in this business and all are very good in their areas. He said that they are going to fill this position for Mumbai very soon and his senior partner is meeting individuals for this position.
He asked me again, are you interested? If yes, then he can schedule a meeting for me as his senior partner will be in the town either on Monday or Tuesday.
I replied by saying yes, but at the back of my mind somehow I was sensing something fishy as he has not yet disclosed the business and has scheduled a meeting already.
Day passed normally and I watched India vs Pakistan world cup match next day without thinking much about the proposed business opportunity which was lying ahead of me.
Monday morning I got a call from him at 8AM in the morning, he said to me that meeting has been finalized for Tuesday at 12:15PM and I must come in formals and if possible before time. I said Ok to him and inquired him about the place where I have to reach?
He said that he will inform me about the place once his partner is in the city and that will depend upon his busy schedule. I said Ok and disconnected the phone.
Next day again in the morning around 8AM I got a call from him, he said that I have to reach at a big mall in Kurla. I agreed to him and reached the destination before the scheduled time.
I called my colleague and told him that I have reached the mall and asked him as where should I come know. He said that he is in a meeting and will call me later and I have to wait for some time at the food court. I was not happy with the kind of response I received from him but I didn’t have any option than to wait as I have come a long way from my home for this meeting.
I waited for almost an hour and was getting pissed off with the kind of cold response I have got from him.
He called me an hour later and told me to come to a café in the same mall.
I reached there in no time and there I saw my colleague sitting alone in corner. We greeted each other by shaking hands and then sat.
I asked about his partner whereabouts and what was he doing before and how long he is into the business?
Again, my colleague dodged all the questions and told me to be calm and be confident and told me to ask all the questions from his senior partner.
He added by saying that ever since he has met this man his life has changed completely, he is like a fatherly figure to him now and he has really helped him to come out of his miserable life that he was living two years ago. He boasted about him by saying that he was working with an MNC at AGM position with a handsome salary but he left his job to get into this business and now you see he is driving an audi, wearing rolex watch, and is having his own 3 BHK flat in Mumbai.
I was impressed and at the same time I was really getting pissed off after waiting for almost an hour at the food court and now he is not even ready to answer the basic question “What is the Business�
Few minutes passed and his senior partner came we both stood up to greet him, he greeted back and we all sat.
So he straight away looked at me and shot his set of questions before I could have spoken anything.
He started with this general one liner question “Tell me something about you� I answered his question giving the details about myself, what I do, my family background etc. Then his next question was why do you want to get into the business line? You are doing well in your job then what brings you here? I answered by saying that I have certain ambitions in life which I believe will not be possible with this 9 to 5 Job plus if you are in business than sky is the limit.
He then started talking about his journey into the business by stating that he was also like me working day in night out for a company. He has worked with top companies in India but somewhere deep inside he was not satisfied. He then while working saw one of his friend getting fired from the company for no reason and that’s what infused the fire in him of doing something of his own. He started working part-time for his business dream and then slowly when earnings increased he left his job.
He said when I looked at my boss, he was driving a Mercedes given by company, a designation of VP given by company but when he retires nothing will remain with him and all his hard work will be gone, his children can’t have that same designation while he is leaving they have to create their own, they have to start everything again from zero.
He shot another question on me, how much do you earn? I was taken back from that sudden question but I answered reluctantly. He smiled and said do you know there is a tea vendor near Ghatkopar station who sells “Malai chai†for Rs10. What do you think his earnings would be? I said I don’t know. He gave his rough calculations stating that he went there with his friend there one fine day, they sat there for one hour, almost 40 cups were sold within that one hour, if he is doing that business for 12 hours a day he will be selling almost 480-500 cups in one day. Cost per cup for tea would be 2 rupee so margin will be around Rs 8 per cup so in all he will be earning Rs 4000 by selling tea. Now he was not just selling tea he was selling toast,bun,poha along with selling tea, if I calculate those margins also than his daily earning would be Rs 10,000 per day. Now just compare your earnings with a tea sellers earning who is more financially sound?
I was taken back with those numbers. He said no business is small only mistake people make is not having the courage of starting the business. Only few who step out and are willing to change their life become successful.
I nodded with a yes in my eye. I asked him as what business are you doing he smiled and said that there is not just one business but there are many. They are into healthcare, lifestyle, travel and leisure, online retail etc business. He further explained that they are no salesman but are working for a conglomerate of the companies bringing customers on a platform from where they can buy product just like amazon and flipkart. He said his target is to get atleast 100,000 loyal customers through marketing who can regularly buy product from that platform and he will make 10-12% of the total value that customer buys.
We are into E-commerce business, now you understood..SIMPLE.. he said with a SMILE.
Somehow I believed in whatever he was saying but in next 10 min I was again taken back with what he asked for!
He asked me, you have been working from last four years how much money you might have saved? An there was a pause between both of us, I was wondering whether he is just saying it to show how poor a salaried person can be or he is actually asking me how much money I have saved. I roughly said few lakhs. He smiled and then said in which bank account do you hold account? Deep down I was feeling uncomfortable with his such personal questions, reluctantly I told him the name of the bank.
He did some calculations in his mind and told me YOU NEED TO INVEST 12 LAKHS if you want to enter into this business.
I said “WHAT� Yes he said and told my colleague that if he is able to arrange 12 Lakhs by next week and is serious about the business than we will have the second round of the meeting where we will discuss the strategic part of the business but before that he needs send a screenshot as a proof that funds are in his account. By now I was pretty much sure that it’s a scam in which they are trying to pull me in. Somehow in my mind I was cursing myself as why the hell I came here trusting my colleague’s words as there is no easy way to money, even business needs time and efforts and which happens rarely within the span of two years. I wanted to leave immediately but I don’t know why I decided to stay and listen him out completely.
The so called senior partner was done by now and he left sharing final pleasantries.
I looked at my colleague straight into eyes but he was constantly looking away from me. I told him that I don’t have that much money. Now he looked at me and said even a guy like him can arrange for money within 7 days than for sure I can arrange money. I instantly asked HOW? He said take personal loan, these days it’s easily available and funds gets credited within 3-4 working days in the account.
I was SURPURISED with what he said. Not because funds get credited so easily but he wanted me to fall into this trap.
So much have happened in those 3 hours, from the high aspirations of getting into the business to standing there like a fool.
I left the place, my colleague decided to stay back as he said that he has one more meeting line up with one of his client.
I walked away and stayed in a corner of the floor positioning myself in a way that no one can look at me and I can see actually who is his next client?
I waited there for 7-10 minutes waiting for the person who is going to meet him, back of my mind I knew the answer. And here we go after waiting for another 5 minutes his senior partner steps in again in the same café. I was so freaking right, shouted my mind. It was a strange feeling going throughout me.
One can’t even trust his/her known acquaintances. I have never done any wrong to him than why the hell he was doing this to me? All these questions were pumping into my mind while I was heading towards my office.
I was not able to concentrate that day.I logged into my computer and opened google. I typed “E-commerce marketing scamsâ€.
The first page I found was related to MLM marketing scam with a company name “Q-NETâ€. What on earth is Qnet now, before today I have never ever heard about that company.
I started reading the thread of comments from various victims of this kind of fraud. It was the same story line that I have mentioned above happened with these victims also which follows as below:
Sudden call from an old friend/colleague
Showing business opportunities with huge scope
Meeting with his/her senior partner generally at a café or a lounge.
Telling you all the negative things about jobs
Portraying big pictures about big businessmen of the country
Giving all the false promises that you will earn crores in next 3 years
Asking you to invest money anything between 1-15 lakhs
Deposit that money into friends account or some unknown account which they call as companies account.
Asking you to read the literature which they use as a trick so that refund time is lost( Please note that Qnet is a genuine company but these people who represent them are frauds)
Guys please note here that there is a refund criteria also and only if you are lucky enough to understand this fraud before passing of one month. Although you have to follow up with Qnet on daily basis to initiate your refund process.
When I finished reading most of the threads available online with all the youtube videos I was very scared with the thought that what is wrong with people these days.
Next day, I got a call from my colleague, he said that his senior partner wants to talk to me and he put the call on conference call. His partner told me that I am selected from their side and asked whether I will be interested to join? With a gritty smile on my face I responded with “NOT INTERESTED†and disconnected the call.
I wanted to expose this incident but somewhere I felt that I should not do this and rather I should pen it down so that more awareness is spread among people and they can save themselves from being victim of such frauds.
If you have also witnessed such incident or have been the victim of this fraud you can write to me at [email protected] or you can drop me your phone number. I will be very happy to share my views and help you out.
I have been trapped by one college freind Amit Keyal ,from Calcutta University, who had once been a good friend and kind of a guide as well. I trusted him since college and respected him as I thought him to be a simple good man. But I am so mistaken as I released last year when he forced (by lying and showing confidence in him saying he is always there) me to pay him almost 2 Lakhs (I took a loan to give him that money) which he said he would give me back if I am not able to continue the so called e-commerce business (Qnet). Nothing was explained before the payment was made. all details about how the company works and what do i have to do are told after I was already trapped and had no other way but to follow what they say. They ask you to make friends and tell them that I m into a mind blowing business and henceforth trap the victim. I chose not to cheat people. My money is lost because since then I have called and messaged that so called businessman (traitor) numerous times but in vain and now after an year I have almost lost all hope of getting back my money .
But I m happy that I didn't turn into one of those kinds going around cheating my own friends and family.
There are many people making a lot of money out of this totally fraud MLM company. There are other MLM companies as well but they are ethical as they agree to that fact and reveal what a member has to do before trapping someone.
I Can provide Some Contact details hereunder:
Q Net Association in Kolkata and all over world.
Sl.No. Name Mobile No. Mobile No.
22 Amit Keyal +971-566584028
4 Ashish +977-9802036176
1 Avinash +91-9330958969
2 Dayanad Mittal +91-9920350221
8 Deepak Kankani +91-9830783316
20 Hemant Surana +91-8697540123
18 Murtazir Nazar +91-9051061879
13 Nishant Gupta +91-9860779185
19 Saru +91-9830235419
21 Shyam Chaudhry +91-7506226543 +91-9930136801
3 +91-8092084462
5 +91-9980096781
6 +91-8100058258
7 +91-8951174594
9 +977-9845096260
10 +91-9376518122
11 +61-411895943
12 +971-557703213
14 +91-9930761147
15 +91-9167780347
16 +91-9836331256
17 +91-9038082570
18 Babita Agarwal+91-9635276465
We have been receiving hundreds of enquiries from QNET VICTIMS across India asking on how to join the FINANCIAL FRAUDS VICTIMS WELFARE ASSOCIATION (FFVWA) which is fighting for the LEGAL RIGHTS of the QNET SCAM VICTIMS in SUPREME COURT of India. You can contact us on WHATSAPP on 9137721819 .
Congratulations to all FFVWA on our major mile stone and success in Supreme Court of India.
Before proceeding further I would like to mention that we are contactable on WHATSAPP on 9137721819 and victims can contact me on Whatsapp on this number only as my two phones were stolen in Delhi and my main number 7498053701 could not be recovered.
A brief summary on the need for forming the FFVWA is summarised in the two news stories below:
https://www.mid-day.com/articles/qnet-forms-financial-fraud-victims-forum-scam-gurupreet-singh-anand/17659179
https://www.mid-day.com/articles/victims-of-fraud-unite-to-catch-qnet-scamsters/19309192
As you are aware we have successfully fought the best criminal lawyers appearing for QNET SCAM till date including lawyers like Kapil Sibbal, Salman Kurshid, Mahesh Jhetmalani, Abaad Ponda…the list is long. The fight is being fought on LEGAL GROUNDS with good FACTS and DATA. The fight has not been easy and but each and every court that I have appeared and argued my case In-Person I have won inspite of BIG MONEY POWER/PRESSURES etc from the QNET SCAM supporters.
You can become part of our organisation FINANCIAL FRAUDS VICTIMS WELFARE ASSOCIATION (FFVWA) which is fighting for the LEGAL RIGHTS of the QNET SCAM VICTIMS in SUPREME COURT of India by downloading the membership form from
DropBox at
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2piy8eudhlz3oj6/FFVWA%20Membership%20Form.pdf?dl=0
and filing it properly and sending it across by courier to:
Anuja Kotecha (Joint Secretary)
Flat no 701, Nazreth Niketan,
Charath Singh Colony, Behind Dragon Fly Hotel,
Andheri-east, Mumbai: 400093
After having completed the form please take snapshots of the same and whatsapp to us on 9137721819.
Please beware there are no short cuts to refund, stay away from individuals who promise you refunds illegally using various tactics. Stay united and fight for your rights LEGALLY.
Regards
Gurupreet Singh Anand
Anuja Kotecha & FFVWA
Dont REGRET later if you miss this meeting, for which we are taking special efforts.
Please gather tomorrow sharp 11AM at Sudarshan 35MM, RTC Cross Road, CHIKKADPALLI, HYDERABAD..
For answers to your questions
Ever since you lost your hard earned money in QNET SCAM, you all have multiple questions and facing multiple issues like:
1. Where and whom to approach for recovering your hard earned money?
2. How to help fight and stop this QNET SCAM?
3. How to teach your CHEATER UPLINES a lesson?
4. Issues regarding the “so called†“REFUND POLICYâ€.
5. Are you eligible for “Compensations�
6. Issues regarding action by police authorities.
7. What is the status of the court cases etc
These are an example of just a few issues and concerns you are facing, but there is GOOD NEWS for you all. We have been working overtime to try and bring an end to these woes and issues faced by Victims of Financial Frauds like this QNETSCAM.
So guys and girls coming Sunday i.e 23rd of July 2017 is the BIG DAY finally , Please do join us at 11AM at the above mentioned address and the location is also attached here with.
Please do come and also inform other victims of the QNETSCAM in Hyderabad, Telangana and Andra Pradesh.
For details WhatsApp me on 7498063701 or call on +918978700018 and speak to Mr. Raghav.
Please pass this important message on all WhatsApp groups, Facebook and Twitter etc so all victims of QNETSCAM in Hyderabad and around can attend.
Those who are attending please confirm in advance as we have limited capacity onlyðŸ™
Jai Hind
Dear Members,
Jai Hind to all. As you are aware I have had fought the QNET SCAM since last 4 years and devoted all these years full time towards taking effort to expose the QNET SCAM because of which millions of innocent people in India are loosing thier hard earned money and due to my efforts the #QNETSCAM had almost come to a stand still.
This fight has had taken a HUGE effort and affected my personal and professional life beyond what can be explained here, though all cases in which I appeared had verdicts coming in favor of the victims of #QNETSCAM
In Bombay High Court and the Supreme Court I have faced the best and most expensive lawyers in India like Mahesh Jhetmalani , Kapil Sibbal, Salman Kurshid , Dushant Dave etc but they could not protect the accused involved in the #QNETSCAM till recently when...
These accused cheated and played FRAUD upon the Supreme Court and obtained an stay order on all proceedings against QNET all over India. It is very very Important for all of us to come together and unite so that this fraud can be exposed and correct facts are brought before the Supreme Court.
To carry forward this fight further I need to move to Delhi and need support from you all without which this fight will come to an end. I request Donations from you all for fighting this #QNETSCAM which is destroying lifes, families and careers and thousands of crores are being laundered out of our country India.
I request donations and the same can be send thru Bank transfer or deposits in my bank account number as below:
Account number: 32280724593
BANK:
state bank of India, Lokhandwala branch
IFSC: SBIN0013204
Name as in bank records: Gurupreet Singh Anand
You can also donate via Paytm on 7498063701. Any donations big or small are welcome.
Other help in form of a place to stay in Delhi and if anyone has an extra activa or similar gear less two wheeler which I can use is also welcome. If you think you can help in any other ways please whatsapp me on 7498063701
Regards
Gurupreet Anand
Please pass this message to all groups, Facebook, Twitter, activists, members and victims of QNETSCAM, please join the fight in exposing the biggest ponzi scheme in India and stop the money being laundered out of our country
Vande Matram
Ever since you lost your hard earned money in QNET SCAM, you all have multiple questions and facing multiple issues like :
1. Where and whom to approach for recovering your hard earned money?
2. How to help fight and stop this QNET SCAM?
3. How to teach your CHEATER UPLINES a lesson?
4. Issues regarding the “so called†“REFUND POLICYâ€.
5. Are you eligible for “Compensations�
6. Issues regarding action buy police authorities.
7. What is the status of the court cases etc.
These are an example of just a few issues and concerns you are facing, but there is GOOD NEWS for you all. We have been working overtime to try and bring an end to these woes and issues faced by Victims of Financial Frauds like this QNETSCAM.
So guys and girls tomorrow is the BIG DAY finally , Please do join us tomorrow (Sunday) afternoon at 1.30 PM sharp at Andheri east, outside Sarangi Restaurant (Just 1 minute from the Andheri station on the east side).
Please do come and also inform other victims of the QNETSCAM.
Tomorrow (Sunday) afternoon sharp 1.30 PM, outside Sarangi Restaurant , Andheri-east, Mumbai.
Please note we have limited seats, first come first served basis allotment..so make sure to reach in time __/\__ . You can contact on 7498063701 in case of difficulty in locating us :)
Jai Hind.
Four persons, who were associated with Hong Kong-based QNET, a multi-level marketing (MLM) company, and duped 200 persons by promising them jobs, were arrested by Central Crime Station (CCS) officials on Thursday. However, the MD and directors of QNET and its sister company Vihaan Direct Selling are still at large.
Deputy commissioner of police (CCS) Avinash Mohanty said Sreenath Konda, Prasanna Kumar Reddy, V Kanchana, B Dhan Raj were arrested from different locations in the city for cheating people.
Police said the accused had been enrolling gullible people as agents by collecting Rs 10 lakh from a group of 10 persons.
Each person would be given status of promoter, direct them to attract a group (i.e., 10 persons) and make them join QNET by paying Rs 10 lakh, for which the promoter would be assured commission.
NewsAmbit, New Delhi
Delhi Police Economic Offence Wing(EOW) has registered an FIR against QNET India/Vihaan Direct selling India Private Limited and its three independent representatives on the allegations of cheating and fraudulently operating the multi level marketing, which is illegal in India. Police have initiated the investigation and suspecting huge scam, which is estimated in crores.
A senior Police officer of EOW said that we received a combined complaint against QNET India and its three independent representatives from more than dozen of people in the month of March this year. As per the allegations of main complainant Anuj Jain alleged that his friend Himashu Aggarwal approached him for an business opportunity. He said that he is an independent representative(IR) of an e-commerce based company. He said that he can arrange an meeting with the other IR’s who will tell you about the business and if they find you suitable you will get chance to be a part of the company. After few days Himanshu called Anuj Jain to come with a CV at a café situated in Nehru Place area on 29 November 2015. Anuj reached there, where he met with Himanshu and his to associates Anita Jaggi and Kanika. Trio told him about the business profile and also assured that this is not a networking marketing company. They demanded Rs 6.5 lakh to be a member of the company. They also said that company has millions of customers. IR of the company is treated as a partner and also got the profit share for each sale. After three four days Anuj gave them 6.5 lakh rupees but after some time he got to know that this is a multi level marketing company and fraudulently cheating innocent persons by roping them in it’s banned business with the help of IRs.
Police said that Anuj is not the only complainant so many more complainants also approached to EOW. After which a preliminary enquiry had conducted. It was found that some persons who are termed as IR contact their friends and close persons to join a new e-commerce business. They don’t tell the name of the company or complete business module at the beginning. After alluring them they set various amounts from the victim. Independent Representatives(IR) get training during the joining and talk to make further members. These kinds of IRs of the company are operated from different cafes and food courts situated in Delhi and NCR.
Those who join the company get user id etc and products like ravel packages, some other items etc are shown purchase from their money. The delivery address given in the portal is also found of overseas area most of the time and mostly that address is too fake type location only which shows that no products are being sold and it is a completely a money circulation scheme. Two websites were found involved in the namely www.unetindia.in and www.cmetindia.net were found mated to Vihaan Direct selling (India) Pvt ltd which is stated Indian Franchisee of Hong Kong based net company. Investigations are on. Police are trying to unearth the whole network of the IRs on which this company is running its business unlawfully in Delhi. A case has been registered u/s 420/120B/34 IPC and 4/5/6 of Prize Chits and money circulation Schemes(Banning) Act,1978 .
Profiles of IRs
Himashu works with Samsung
Anita Jaggi works with RBS
The company Qnet is celebrating VCon from 3-7 May. As a present,yesterday late night, I posted lot of comments on numerous pics uploaded on Instagram. I also posted on VChief Pathmans account. Unfortunately, they kept deleting my posts and had to ultimately block me. If each one of us, Indians, takes to instagram and starts posting messages like me, then they would have to either block us or abandon their account, which is their money making tool. You can start with Qnetofficial,TheV, Pathmans account, etc with phrases like Pyramid Scheme, Qnetscam, Franchise Fraud, Police arrests, court cases,Cheating, etc. They cannot stop us if we all work as one unit.
Hope we all teach them a lesson and save other fellow Indians.
Jai Hind
CM Devendra Fadnavis has assured detailed inquiry into QNet: BJP
Chief minister Devendra Fadnavis has promised to make a detailed inquiry of the alleged irregularities by the QNet multilevel marketing company and take action against the offenders, said BJP spokesperson Madhav Bhandari on Saturday. Former union minister P. Chidambaram’s wife was a legal counsellor with the company.
The QNet company, which was earlier known as Goldquest, has cheated 12 lakh people to the tune of thousands of crores of rupees. The court has rejected anticipatory bail to the accused in this case. When the CM was contacted about this, he promised to make a detailed inquiry and take action. If necessary, he said that the CBI’s help would also be taken, said Mr Bhandari.
The party spokesperson demanded that the role of former Union minister P. Chidambaram and his wife needs to be probed in this case. “Mr Chidambaram’s wife was a legal counsellor of the concerned company. Taking note of complaint registered by a lawyer from Chennai, the Central Vigilance Department handed over the case to the CBI. The complaint also has a mention of former Union minister Shashi Tharoor. However, the CBI did not investigate the matter during the tenure of Congress government at the Centre,” he alleged.
In Maharashtra, the wife of Gurpreet Singh Anand had in 2013 filed a complaint of fraud against the company. However, there was not much inquiry during the Congress-NCP regime. But since the court has denied anticipatory bail to other accused, including sportsman Michael Ferreira, the investigation can be expedited. Many sensational things are expected to come out in the investigation as the CM has promised to carry out a detailed probe in the case, said Mr Bhandari.
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A group of investors in the QNet multi-level market case on Sunday gathered near Holy Family Church and marched as a protest and public awarness against ponzi schemes. The protesetors reached at the house of accused Padma Bhushan Michael feriera in the QNet cheating case. The protesters were holding placards that read, Michel Ferriera Shame Shame! and Ban QNet".
"We chose Bandra for protest since most of the accused in this scam reside here. We had informed the police in advance and stated that the peaceful march will be for awareness about such fraud schemes and protest against such ponzi schemes," said Gurpreet Singh Anand, the first complainant in the QNet cheating case. He added that thgough it was his birthday but he did not spend time at home and was busy in the awareness drive.
Similar protests were held in New Delhi, Bangalore and Hyderabad on Sunday. Last month a special MPIDA court rejected the anticipatory bail plea of Michael Ferreira, winner of the World Amateur Billiards Championship and a Padma Bhushan recipient, and four others in the QNet case. They have approached the Bombay High Court for anticipatory bail. Ferreira, 77, and others had applied for anticipatory bail in 2014.
The economic offences wing of Mumbai police, probing the multicrore Qnet scam, has issued notices to Indian Super League (ISL) officials to gather details about taking sponsorship from the tainted company.
Qnet had made celebratory association as the official direct selling partner of Goa Football Club (FC Goa) throughout the Indian Super League 2015 season, from October to December. FC Goa is a part of the ISL football league tournament. Sources said the police are trying to find out the how the proceeds of crime of a company under serious investigation, have been used to sponsor the team. Police are also baffled as how the Qnet managed to generate money when its accounts have been seized. "We have sum moned ISL officials to understand the amount and flow of money in their sponsorship from the Qnet company which had defrauded several investors," said an official.
The Saradha Scam which started mainly in Bengal looks relatively smaller compared to the Qnet scam which had defrauded people across various cities like Mumbai,Delhi,Bangalore,Hyderabad etc for over a period of 10 years.
To unite and protest against this MLM scam plaguing India, all victims,activists, are requested that they gather outside Holy Family church,Hill Road,Bandra West at 10.30 A.M. tomorrow 24th April,2016.
Various press and media agencies will be present to cover the event meet and address grievances to authorities.
The current government has taken note of the Qnet scam and matter will be taken up at upcoming Parliament session.
All Indians are cordially invited to support the cause and join in the protest. We need to end the scam by spreading awareness and recover the money taken away by the scamsters.
A request to all to please forward this message on Facebook, twitter and WhatsApp groups... Jai Hind
The special court has rejected anticipatory bail applications of two directors of Vihaan, Suresh Thimiri of Transview as well as Malcolm Desai and Michael Ferreira, the stakeholders of Vihaan that handles QNet's MLM operations in India
The special Maharashtra Protection of Interest of Depositors (MPID) Court on Tuesday rejected anticipatory bail applications of five accused in the multi-crore QNet scam. This includes, Srinivas Rao Vanka and Magaral Veervalli Balaji, both directors of Vihaan Direct selling (India) Pvt Ltd, Suresh Thimiri, director of Transview Enterprises India Pvt Ltd, Malcolm Nozer Desai, who is 20% stakeholder in Vihaan and Michael Joseph Ferreira, former world champion of billiards and 80% stakeholder in Vihaan.
The Economic Offences Wing (EOW) of Mumbai Police, which is probing the case, had invoked the stringent MPID Act against controversial multi-level marketing (MLM) company QNet, which has denied any wrongdoing on its part.
Transview Enterprises is an associate company of Vihaan Direct Selling Pvt Ltd that handles QNet's multi-level marketing (MLM) operations in India since 14 April 2012. Vihaan Direct Selling, in which Michael Ferreira, the former world billiards champion, owns 80% stake, is a direct selling agent of QNet and had done large financial transactions with Thimiri's company Transview.
The EOW had booked several accused including the former world champion of billiards and five companies related with QNet, under the MPID Act. This means all the cases against QNet, Vihaan and all those involved in the MLM scam would be heard before the special MPID Court. Until now, the accused were being investigated for cheating and forgery under the Prize, Chits and Money Circulation Schemes (Banning) Act 1978, and for money laundering by the Enforcement Directorate (ED).
In February 2014, the ED registered a case under the prevention of money laundering act (PMLA) against QNet, Vihaan Direct Selling, Ferreira and QNet founder Vijay Eswaran and three other independent representatives (IRs) of the MLM operator.
Gurupreet Singh Anand, a computer consultant from Lokhandawala, Andheri in his first information report (FIR) stated that his wife was duped for Rs30,000 by some people who had introduced themselves as the independent representatives (IRs) of QNet. Anand told the police, “They (IRs) had said that one of the bio-products my wife bought could be used to treat my 12-year-old son's brain-related diseases.”
MUMBAI: Investors who lost their money in major scams and multi-level marketing's cheating cases can heave a sigh of relief now. The state government has appointed 49 new competent authorities (CAs) to take decision in as many as 101 cases regisered under the strinent law, The Maharashtra Protection of Interest of Depositors (MPID) Act. This will help to dispose of as much as Rs 10,000 crore of investors that is stuck in over a hundred cheating cases' legal battle.
Earlier, the city economic offences wing (EOW) had only two competent authorities. "CAs will proceed with the procedure of disposal of properties and realisation of money for repayment to the investors. It will expedite the process of recovery and will help the victims who have been cheated to get their money back," said Dhananajay Kamalamakr, joint commissioner of police and EOW chief.
The big cases where these CAs will focus first include the cheating cases incluidng National Spot Exchange Limited (NSEL), QNet, SpeakAsia, fixed deposit scam led by Sheesha lounge owner Mohammed Fasih and the Mumbai District Cooperative Bank. SpeakAsia alone has over 24 lakh investors. The money lost in this case is over Rs 2,276 crore while investors' over Rs 6,000 crore is stuck in the NSEL case.
TOI had on October 11, 2015 reported about that as many as 62 cases under the MPID act were pending in a city court due to non-appointment of a competent authority. While seized properties of the accused in all the above cases await disbursement among the victims, the city police has sent a proposal to the state for several amendments including the appointment of CA for a speedy return of public money, said police sources. More than Rs 10,000 crore public money is stuck in MPID cases in the city alone, they said.
"Earlier, non-appointment of competent authority defeated the objective of the enactment of the MPID Act," said an EOW officer. While an investigating officer probes the criminal part of a case, the civil aspects such as the attachment of properties, sale-realization of properties, and disbursement of sale proceeds to the victims are exclusively in the domain of the competent authority who is a revenue officer of deputy collector rank.
"It is observed that competent authority has been appointed in 23 cases in the city MPID cases earlier, notification of the properties in the official gazette is yet to be published. Hence, it would be better to have CAs with independent portfolio for MPID cases," said a senior IPS officer.
Major cases where the appointment of competent authority will give relief to investors:
· NSEL Rs 6,000 crore
· SpeakAsia Rs 2,276 crore
· QNet Rs 425 crore
· FD scam Rs 325 crore
· Mumbai District Cooperative Bank Rs 119 crore
VIJAYAWADA: Yet another multi-level marketing (MLM) company Vihaan Direct Selling Ltd was sealed by police and its representatives were paraded before mediapersons here on Tuesday. Police will soon serve a notice on its promoters -- Vasudeva Reddy and Ch Gangadhar - who are currently in Dubai and alert the Interpol to help nab the duo.
Addressing a press conference here on Tuesday, commissioner of police A B Venkateswara Rao said that 134 people in the city have fallen prey to the company. "Vihaan Direct collected Rs 1.16 crore and deposited Rs 65 lakh in the account of Vihaan Direct Selling Ltd, which is based in Mumbai. Another Rs 10 lakh was deposited in the account of VR 1 Training Centre, which is based in Bangalore. Rest of the funds have been misappropriated," he said.
Acting on a complaint from a depositor Prathipathi Lakshmi Ganesh, Krishna Lanka police led by circle inspector S V V S Murthy arrested four representatives of the firm- Gourang Desai, Y Babul Reddy, D Nagaraju and Ch Manikanta -- on June 22 and recovered Rs 15 lakh in cash and four mobile phones.
It was on January 5 this year Mumbai-based Vasudeva Reddy, a notorious MLM agent, opened Vihaan Direct as a franchise of Hong Kong-based Q-Net near Prasanthi Hospital in Labbipet. He also ran a training centre called VR 1. City-lad Desai, who met Vasudeva in Mumbai, was nominated as in-charge of the training centre. Gangadhar, a close aide of Vasudava, was nominated to run the direct selling firm.
Gangadhar recruited Babul, Nagaraju and Manikanta as independent representatives (IRs) to carry out the fraudulent MLM operations. Their modus operandi was typical of a binary tree structure- each IR has to recruit more members. IRs will receive commission based on the number of referrals and sales volume of other IRs in their team.
The police commissioner said that Vijay Eswaran, who runs Q-Net, is the brain behind the MLM firms. "From 2002-08, he ran a firm in Chennai that swindled Rs 1,100 crore. Between 2010-14, he ran another MLM firm with Vasudeva Reddy, which swindled Rs 425 crore from depositors," he added.
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Four persons have been held today for their alleged involvement in the multi-level marketing 'Qnet' case, police said.
The four persons, identified as V Bal Reddy, Gautam Desai, Dasari Nagaraju and Cheemakurti Manikanta, were arrested today and Rs 15 lakh, deposited in different bank accounts, were seized from them, district Police Commissioner A
B Venkateswara Rao said.
The accused were nabbed by Economic Offences wing of the Commissionarate and the key person involved in the alleged fraud, Gangadhar from Vijayawada, is absconding and is currently said to be in Dubai, the senior officer said.
The five persons were associated with multi-level international marketing firm Qnet, a company founded by one Vijay Eswaran, a Malaysian citizen based in Hong Kong, in 1998, where the company agents extracted huge money from people by offering them lucrative incentives, he said.
The company also operated in India with other names like 'Qen' and 'Quest, police said.
Eswaran had appointed one Vihan Direct Selling, owned by Gangadhar, as the sole selling company in India, where the firm had assigned some agents to recruit salesmen under the direct selling system.
According to police, the agents had appointed 134 first level salesmen by collecting Rs 1,16,55,000 and another 13,400 second level salesmen were joined by the 134 sales persons.
In the meantime, one of the salesmen suspected company's activities and lodged a complaint with the police and the four accused were arrested after investigations.
Rao said if necessary, a red corner notice will be issued against Gangadhar.
He said Qnet is facing many charges in the country and some of the cases against the company are pending in courts.
A decade back, the company was involved in a Rs 11 crore case of alleged fraud in Chennai. It has also been facing some cases in Mumbai, the officer said.
A Mumbai resident today approached the Economic Offences Wing of police seeking inquiry into QNet, a multi-level marketing company facing allegations of duping investors, being one of the sponsors of onoging International Indian Film Academy Awards, 2015.
The EOW of Mumbai police is probing the Hong Kong-based Qnet for an alleged Rs 425-crore fraud.
Gurpreet Singh Anand, who is one of the original complainants against the firm, contends in the fresh complaint that the "purpose of sponsoring IIFA awards is to further the Qnet scam in India and create an image that it is a respectable brand".
IIFA website lists Qnet as one of the 'official direct selling partners'.
While Singh has demanded probe into "why they (organisers) have appointed this company as sponsor", IIFA officials were unavailable for comment. Its legal cell informed PTI that senior officials were busy in Malaysia where the awards ceremony is taking place.
The EOW has so far arrested 17 persons for allegedly duping investors by selling Qnet products including magnetic disks, herbal products and holiday schemes through allegedly fraudulent means.
It has been accused of using the banned 'binary pyramid business model', and a case has been registered under the Prize, Chits and Money Circulation Schemes (Banning) Act, 1978.
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Two top representatives of QNet, a Hong Kong-based multi-level marketing company allegedly involved in a Rs 425-crore fraud here, were arrested today after being picked up from Delhi international airport, police said.
The controversial company's senior independent representatives, identified as Sandeep Kalra and Hitesh Miglani, were intercepted by immigration authorities at the Indira Gandhi International Airport at Delhi last night, said an officer with Mumbai Police Economic Offence Wing (EOW).
The duo, who arrived from Dubai in separate flights, was stopped at the airport as Look Out Circulars (LOC) were issued against them by the EOW probing the case.
The two suspects, who were suspected to have had pocketed lakhs of rupees through the scheme and organised several training camps to lure investors, have been subsequently brought to the metropolis and placed under arrest this evening, police said.
The LOCs have been issued against those whose statements have been necessitated in the probe but did not appear before the investigators despite summons.
Kalra hails from Delhi while Miglani is from Bangalore, police said adding that this is the first arrest of those against whom LOCs had been issued.
The EOW had earlier arrested 15 persons for allegedly duping investors by selling QNet products, including magnetic disks, herbal products and holiday schemes, through allegedly fraudulent means.
The EOW has invoked the stringent Maharashtra Protection of Interest of Depositors (MPID) against the company which has denied any wrongdoing on its part.
QNet has also been accused of using the banned binary pyramid business model. An FIR in the case was registered in August in 2013.
The accused had been charged with cheating and forgery under relevant sections of the Prize, Chits and Money Circulation Schemes (Banning) Act, 1978.
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Four persons have been held today for their alleged involvement in the multi-level marketing 'Qnet' case, police said.
The four persons, identified as V Bal Reddy, Gautam Desai, Dasari Nagaraju and Cheemakurti Manikanta, were arrested today and Rs 15 lakh, deposited in different bank accounts, were seized from them, district Police Commissioner A
B Venkateswara Rao said.
The accused were nabbed by Economic Offences wing of the Commissionarate and the key person involved in the alleged fraud, Gangadhar from Vijayawada, is absconding and is currently said to be in Dubai, the senior officer said.
The five persons were associated with multi-level international marketing firm Qnet, a company founded by one Vijay Eswaran, a Malaysian citizen based in Hong Kong, in 1998, where the company agents extracted huge money from people by offering them lucrative incentives, he said.
The company also operated in India with other names like 'Qen' and 'Quest, police said.
Eswaran had appointed one Vihan Direct Selling, owned by Gangadhar, as the sole selling company in India, where the firm had assigned some agents to recruit salesmen under the direct selling system.
According to police, the agents had appointed 134 first level salesmen by collecting Rs 1,16,55,000 and another 13,400 second level salesmen were joined by the 134 sales persons.
In the meantime, one of the salesmen suspected company's activities and lodged a complaint with the police and the four accused were arrested after investigations.
Rao said if necessary, a red corner notice will be issued against Gangadhar.
He said Qnet is facing many charges in the country and some of the cases against the company are pending in courts.
A decade back, the company was involved in a Rs 11 crore case of alleged fraud in Chennai. It has also been facing some cases in Mumbai, the officer said.
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With the arrest of Susan Nikhil Chatterjee, former wife of Mark Ferreira, the focus of the investigators is now back again on the family of former world billion champion Michael Ferreira. The Economic Offences Wing (EOW) of Mumbai police last week arrested Susan in the Rs425 crore QNet scam.
Read the full story here...and please add your comments...
http://www.moneylife.in/article/qnet-mic...
Ever Since my fight started against QNET SCAM I have faced the following lawyers in court by appearing in person:
1. Nitin Pradhan
2. Mahesh Jhetmalani
3. Abad Ponda
4. Haresh Mohan Jagtiani
5. Divya Bahl
6. Rajendra Mokashi
7. Kuldip Patil
8. Sandeep Karnik
9. Sudatta Patil etc…
All these are senior advocates with teams of juniors below them but till date QNET did not get any single favorable order from any court.
The FIGHT enters a “new phase” now….Ganpati Bappa Morya :)
MUMBAI: Around half a dozen accused in the Rs 425 crore QNet cheating case submitted fake documents before the court for procuring anticipatory bail, Pradip Gharat, special public prosecutor told the court. Later, a police officer filed an affidavit before the court that the statement and the signatures of him were actually bogus and that he was never involved in the investigation of this case at the initial stage.
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QNet: Ferriera, six others misled court by submitting 'fake' document, says EOW
Have QNet team leaders misled the Mumbai Sessions Court by submitting a fake document along with their bail application? The Economic Offences Wing has made this sensational disclosure. The police official, whose signature is on
the document has also denied having prepared or signed it
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Rest of QNET domains go down too..wwww.qnet-india.com and http://www.qnetindia.net take a hit..what next Q?
The server at qnet-india.com can't be found, because the DNS lookup failed. DNS is the network service that translates a website's name to its Internet address. This error is most often caused by having no connection to the Internet or a misconfigured network. It can also be caused by an unresponsive DNS server or a firewall preventing Google Chrome from accessing the network.
Access a cached copy of http://qnet-india.com/
First Payouts Approved For Zeek Reward Victims
HIGH POINT, N.C.-- A federal judge has approved the first payouts for victims of the Zeek Rewards pyramid scheme. The High Point Enterprise reported that the attorney supervising efforts to return members to the victims said a judge on Thursday approved the payments.
Kenneth Bell said the first payments should be handed out late next month. Bell indicated earlier this year that the first payments could be for about 40 percent of what victims lost in the scheme. The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission shut down and seized the assets of Zeek Rewards in August 2012.
Bell estimates that from January 2011 until August 2012, more than 700,000 people lost more than $700 million. Zeek Rewards had said it was a multi-level marketing business operating in Lexington.
Major Chinese dailies reported that more than 100 people had cancelled their membership in the controversial multi-level marketing scheme YSLM, established by self-proclaimed Chinese millionaire Zhang Jian.
They were required to sign a letter which stated that their reason for quitting was due to the impact from a Facebook page calling on netizens to combat pyramid schemes, and that they were grateful to Zhang Jian for allowing them to terminate their membership unconditionally.
On Wednesday, the company announced that members who had failed to introduce new members to the company were entitled to a full refund of RM300 (S$115) if they quit the scheme.
Zhang made headlines recently when giant billboards of him appeared in Penang proclaiming him as the "future richest man in the world".
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KUALA LUMPUR: Members of a controversial multi-level marketing business started by self-proclaimed Chinese millionaire Zhang Jian are entitled to a refund if they quit the scheme, said senior distributor Jessy Lai.
“They have until Aug 14 to cancel the membership,” she said.
“Just bring your identity card, let us take your picture and a video clip stating the reasons you wish to quit, and we will give you the refund on the spot,” Lai told a press conference yesterday.
However, she said the refund would only be given to those who had not introduced any new member to the group.
Zhang made the news recently when billboards of him appeared in Penang, proclaiming himself as the “future richest man in the world”.
Subsequently, reports emerged accusing his company, known as YSLM, of being linked to a get-rich-quick scam.
YSLM has refuted all the allegations, stressing that it was a legal business.
Yesterday, Lai also refuted media reports that at least 100 people had turned up at the company’s office here to cancel their membership since news about the refund offer was circulated on the Internet before the official announcement.
“We have not received any applications as of now,” she said.
She stressed that the refund process could only be done at the office.
On the whereabouts of YSLM founder, Lai said he had been travelling in and out of the country, exploring overseas markets.
Asked whether Zhang would show up to explain his business, Lai said he would appear for official matters and not just to answer accusations against him.
She also explained why the refund would not be offered to those who had introduced other people to the scheme.
Those who had brought in two members would have received a commission of RM300 – equivalent to the membership fee.
Thus, no money would be returned to them, she said.
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An open letter from MLM expert Robert L FitzPatrick of Pyramid Scheme Alert to the US FTC exposes illegality of multi-level marketing (MLM) schemes and how law enforcement agencies can curb it. The same applies for India where thousands of pyramid or network marketing schemes are duping gullible savers everyday and also lobbying for legitimacy
In an 'open letter' to the US Federal Trade Commission (FTC), pyramid scheme expert Robert L FitzPatrick, co-author of the book, 'False Profits', president of Pyramid Scheme Alert and co-founder of the International Coalition of Consumer Advocates, has provided a set of recommendations to the FTC on how to identify illegal multi-level marketing (MLM) schemes and to enforce consumer protection laws on pyramids disguised as 'direct selling'. The paper was sent following a conference call with officials of the FTC Consumer Protection Bureau in which an invitation for suggestions and recommendations was made by FTC officials.
The FTC recently prosecuted one of the larger MLMs, Fortune High Tech Marketing, but only after it had scammed more than 300,000 households and operated openly for nearly 12 years. Currently, the FTC is investigating one of the largest of all MLMs, Herbalife that has operated for more than 30 years.
Bright Lines of Illegality:
The paper submitted by FitzPatrick, entitled, Identifying 'Bright Lines' for Determining Illegality of Any Multi-Level Marketing Company under Section 5 of the FTC Act, lists telltale signs of illegality (unfair and deceptive trade practices):
1. Endless Chain Structure - The sales management chain has no sector of sales people that is focused directly and only on end-users. The sales chain expansion is without limit and without geographic restriction. All new participants, upon payment, are awarded the right and offered financial incentives to recruit more salespeople and extend the chain to multiple levels, usually six to infinity. This reward plan and structure indicate the use of the inherently deceptive“endless chain”, infinity factor” and “unlimited” income claim to induce purchases and fees.
2. Pay-to-Play – Despite providing no territorial protection or even historical saturation data provided to new salespeople, sales/ purchase quotas are imposed with specific dollar volumes of product purchases (either by the distributor personally or his/her recruitment chain). In some cases, there are structural recruiting requirements also imposed in order to maintain a position in the endless chain payment plan. These volume and recruiting quotas are signs of “pay-to-play” factors that operate in tandem with an endless chain structure and recruiting-based rewards to drive purchases and fee payments.
3. Money Transfer - The MLM employs a reward formula that overwhelmingly rewards chain extension activity that is recruiting-based over personal retail sales activity that is market-based. Evidence includes formulas that allocate higher aggregate rewards, per transaction, to those at the upper end of the chain, over those at the base and allocate total commission payout to recruiters in excess of total verified retail profits. Special bonuses and rates on total “group” volume are based on position on the endless chain. They money transfer formulas directly result in an extreme concentration of payments – 50% to 80% – of total payouts to those at the extreme upper end of the recruiting chain. As an example, the report referenced hard data on Nu Skin’s payment of 82% of all its commissions to the top 1.29% of its “active” sales force, which is 0.5% of the entire sales network.
4. Recruitment-Driven - The actual activity of the business is characterised by relentless recruiting, churning and transferring funds from later participants to earlier ones.
5. Little Evidence of Market-based Retail Selling - Little evidence, gained from an examination of marketing materials, website, and reports from participants or researchers, of market-based retail sales, per salesperson, and little evidence of retail profit gains among the sales force.
6. No Income Opportunity for Nearly All Participants - Large-scale losses are evident in the sales force, even among those in the upper one-third of sales chain.
Law Enforcement Guidelines
For law enforcement, the report offered specific reforms that would put any MLM on the legal side.
1. Limit the number of levels that any individual salesperson can personally recruit and gain override commissions to one or several. In combination with other reforms, this measure would eliminate the infinity factor.
2. Require that commissions be awarded only on consummated retail sales, that is to persons who are not signers of the company’s sales contract and are not eligible for recruiting-based rewards.
3. Allow no commissions to be paid on any purchases made by other salespeople or on the salesperson’s own account. This reform eliminates a major incentive for recruiting and for making personal purchases. It would also clearly indicate that all purchases made by the sales force are market-based.
4. Eliminate all purchase/ sales volume or recruiting requirements in order to maintain sales and recruiting authorization. With no geographic limitations or protections placed on MLM salespeople, and no information available on market saturation factors, volume and recruiting requirements serve no other purpose than as recruiting inducements.
5. Establish limited territories for distributors who want to develop sales teams with authorisation based upon management selection. The current practice of open-ended, even global territories and escalation on the sales chain being based purely on volume/ recruiting performance is a telltale indicator of the “endless chain” inducement and the lack of a real-world market basis for sales.
Principles of FTC Law Enforcement and Consumer Protection from Illegal MLMs
1. The establishment of an understandable and consistent “bright line” requires that the FTC take a clearly stated legal stand against the groundless and nonsensical claim of MLM promoters that purchasing products by the participants in multi-level marketing exempts the enterprise from an illegal pyramid definition. The bogus identity of “direct selling” by pyramid selling schemes and the claim of exemption from a pyramid scheme definition based on product purchases have confused and misled millions of consumers (“If the MLM sells a product, it’s can’t be a pyramid!”).
MLM lobbyists have claimed that pyramid scheme definitions must exempt enterprises in which rewards are gained through product sales “to participants.” They have lobbied for this “product exemption” in state laws and tried to get a federal law passed in 2003. In fact, in case after case of MLMs prosecuted by the FTC, the selling products was the disguise of choice, and “direct selling” turned out to be a false identity.
2. FTC must establish and publish a set of recognizable actors indicative of the use of the endless chain as a marketing device, once the endless structure is identified as part of that MLM’s business model.
The evidence of the use of endless chain marketing to induce purchases and fee payments is found in the MLM’s pay formula and in the statement of policies and procedures, both of which are generally published.
Additional evidence can be found in income disclosure documents, website, webinars and in SEC filings.
Evidence of the use of the endless chain is manifested in verifiable loss and churn rates and absence of profitable retail selling. Referencing these classic elements of a pyramid disguised as a sales company can be done in a matter of hours or days. Pyramid fraud is frequently in plain sight.
Mandate for Action Now
By offering bright lines and recommendations for law enforcement, the “Open Letter” supports the message of urgency that the International Coalition of Consumer Advocates delivered to the FTC in October, 2013 with it White Paper and petitions.
Currently, the FTC lacks a consistent or understandable standard for determining illegality of any MLM, rendering effective FTC prosecution and law enforcement in MLM sector essentially impossible and, indeed, virtually non-existent.
By any standard, this position for a law enforcement agency is intolerable. It leaves millions of people in America and around the world without any means of distinguishing legitimate direct selling opportunities from pyramid swindles. In recent years, these schemes have begun targeting the most vulnerable sectors of the public, students and immigrants. The FTC’s untenable position has also generated a dangerous uncertainty in the securities markets, putting pension funds at risk that are invested in MLM enterprises that are being openly challenged for operating illegally.
The scenario in India
Coming back to home, Moneylife has been continuously writing about the inaction by government and regulators regarding MLM companies, money circulation schemes, pyramid-marketing schemes and other similar companies that swindle the unwary public by offering them misleading inducements and depriving them of their hard-earned savings.
In April 2013, after the collapse of Saradha group, the ministry of corporate affairs (MCA) in a face saving measure has decided to hand over probe of such chit-fund, MLM, Ponzi and pyramid scheme operators to a Special Task Force under the Serious Fraud Investigations Office (SFIO). The ministry said the probe has been ordered in view of a larger public interest involved in the issues, although the state governments are the appropriate authorities for regulation of such chit fund companies and schemes under the Chit Fund Act, 1982.
Here are some of the important stories written and representations made by Moneylife over the years…
Moneylife Foundation’s representation to PM, FM and RBI on MLM schemes
In May 2011, following the exposé by Moneylife on Speak Asia Online Pte Ltd and its MLM scheme, Moneylife Foundation sent a representation to prime minister Dr Manmohan Singh, (the then) finance minister Pranab Mukherjee, finance secretary Sushama Nath and Reserve Bank of India (RBI) governor D Subbarao urging them to ban all MLM companies and their schemes in the country, or to bring all MLM companies under the regulation of either the RBI or the Securities and Exchange Board of India (SEBI), to stop them ensnaring gullible people.
West Bengal’s ‘chit fund’ mess and inaction of MCA
The massive money, which is raised surely shows somewhere on the balance sheet of the company, filed regularly with the MCA. The primary recipient of the information about these companies is the MCA, and surprisingly the MCA is the least proactive in the entire process of bringing these perpetrators to regulatory focus, sooner before tonnes of money vanish.
Chain Game
Dubious pyramid schemes or money-circulation schemes are looting Indians across economic strata, finds Sucheta Dalal. This will continue since Central and state governments seem unconcerned.
Pyramid schemes: Daylight robbery
Pyramid marketing companies are looting the public easily, while the government watches. Many countries have banned them outright.
Ponzi Scheme: Is RBI Passing the Buck?
A strange deposit scheme that is proliferating in the states of Orissa, Chhattisgarh, Karnataka and Maharashtra has already collected almost Rs1,000 crore and is expanding virtually unchecked. The scam has elements of money-laundering and possibly the use of fake and forged currency as well; however, the banking regulator would like to pass off the investigation to the respective state governments for investigation under the antiquated Prize Chits and Money Circulation Schemes (Banning) Act.
Coin Game
An international network marketing scheme hawking expensive limited edition coins is attracting a huge following. Sucheta Dalal examines this strange quest.
Ponzi schemes: Free for all
Moneylife readers know how MLM schemes ensnare lakhs of people by promising extraordinary returns. We learn from the ministry of consumer affairs that the government is now waking up to the need for better regulation of MLMs and ponzis. At the same time, the powerful Direct Selling Association of the US is lobbying hard for an amendment.
‘Beware of deception by pyramid schemes, MLMs trying to lure people with promise of high returns’
Pyramids are pure fraud. Their business is unsustainable-they promise payment for goods or services of dubious value. The hallmark of these schemes is the promise of sky-high returns in a short period of time, for doing nothing other than simply handing over your money to them, and getting others to do the same.
Ponzi schemes: The fraudulent art of chain game
Even as India bans pyramid schemes under a statute called the Prize Chits and Money Circulation Schemes (Banning) Act, 1978, the country continues to be a happy hunting ground for pyramids because our legislation is deliberately unworkable.
Dubious Ponzi & MLM Schemes
Investors losing money, or falling for dubious Ponzi schemes, is not a recent phenomenon; this has been happening for decades and it is not restricted only to India. Why is it that people repeatedly fall prey to such schemes in spite of being aware of the frauds perpetrated by conmen under different guises?
Set up inter-departmental group to curb MLMs
EAS Sarma, former power and finance secretary, said the ministry of finance, Reserve Bank of India (RBI), Securities and Exchange Board of India (SEBI), and the investigating agencies should collectively tackle this problem without any delay, as every day of procrastination will only result in thousands of hapless families cheated by the promoters of these schemes.
How MLMs wave an annulled letter to claim legitimacy of their operations and con people
Spokespersons and dealers of multi-level marketing (MLM) schemes or network marketing schemes respond to questions about their legitimacy by brandishing a 2003 letter issued by the then secretary, ministry of corporate affairs (MCA). What they omit to mention is that the letter was subsequently annulled following complaints about its misuse. This means, the letter used by these scamsters is no more valid.
Pyramid and MLM schemes are scourge on people
While there are existing laws such as Indian Penal Code (IPC), the Prize Chits and Money Circulation Schemes (Banning) Act, 1978 (PCMCS Act) and others under which concerned agencies could prosecute the culprits, there is no effective mechanism in place to ensure a coordinated approach to identify the fraudulent operators in advance and book them well before they destroy the livelihoods of thousands of households and launder the ill-gotten funds to unknown destinations.
MLMs now want to ‘invest’ money in India, really?
A set of powerful MLMs, which are part of an exclusive closed club, called the Indian Direct Selling Association or IDSA (on the lines of the Direct Selling Association of the US) has been lobbying hard to make a distinction between their operations and those of others, who they call, fly-by-night operators such as SpeakAsia and Ad Magnet.
QNet, the MLM company, has no answers to Moneylife’s simple questions
QNet, the controversial Hong Kong-based multi-level marketing (MLM) operator with multiple names (GoldQuest, QuestNet, QNet, QI Ltd and QI group are the better known names) refused to answer simple questions like how much money their independent representative (IR) earns on an average every month and why their products are priced so highly. Instead, it sent us a threatening and defamatory mail that raises more questions as to their real motive.
2011: A year dedicated to MLM and Ponzi scheme frauds
If 2010 was the year of great Indian scams, 2011 was rather of ponzi and multi-level marketing (MLM) frauds. SpeakAsia managed to top the chart, but soon many others joined the bandwagon, duping gullible investors for several thousand crores.
How to avoid 'get-rich-quick' schemes and scams
Nothing comes free in this world, especially money. The universal truth is you need to earn your money by hard labour all the time and there are no shortcuts to double it in the shortest span of time. Therefore, even if your near and dear ones tell you he/she will double, triple, quadruple your money within a few days/months, politely reply to them that it is not possible and what they are advocating is a pure 'get-rich-quick' type of scam.
Herbalife is a pyramid scheme worth zero dollars: Bill Ackman
Herbalife, a global MLM scheme also prevalent in India, is believed to be worthless according to hedge fund manager Bill Ackman, who made a detailed presentation on why consumers should avoid buying the company’s products and stay away from the MLM.
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Hyderabad: The top police officials of the two States of Andhra Pradesh and Telangana have launched a massive hunt to track down the ‘Diamonds’ and other members of Amway India Enterprises to make sure their role in the multilevel marketing scam of the US-based company.
According to informed sources, the police of both the states are even sharing information regarding the list of upline members in the hierarchy of Amway India Enterprises, who share commissions on purchase of products by the downline members. The sources said that in the business model of Amway, the upline members who enroll new members into the scheme of purchasing products received sizable income which was nothing but easy and quick money. “Once the list of the ‘Diamonds’ is prepared and their income on commissions is confirmed, we go ahead with arresting them also,” the source said.
Meanwhile, the police on Monday arrested the MD and CEO of Amway, William S Pinckney, who is presently in Charlapalli Jail and presented him in the judicial court which sent him to remand for 14 days. The MD was sent back to Charlapalli Jail. It is learnt that the police would file a petition in the court seeking custody of Pinckney for interrogation to take the criminal case against him to a logical conclusion.
A police official said that the law would take its own course and charge sheets would be filed soon in the criminal cases against Amway India. In another twist to the criminal case against the MD of Amway, the High Court did not issue any orders on the petition filed by Amway India to exempt its managing director Pinckney from surrendering the passport to the police department. However, the passport surrender order issue has become an impediment for the release of Pinckney on bail.
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If you are a victim of Qnet and have lost money or know someone who has lost/invested money by believing false claims of their friends and relatives.
Then follow these steps
1.Emailed complaint to [email protected]
2.Send a formal written complaint letter along with product purchase receipt etc as evidence through registered post to the address below:
Mr. Kapase Investigating Officer Qnet Economic Offenses Wing-3 Crime Branch Mumbai Police, Police Commissioner's Office,Opposite Crawford Market, D N Road, Fort Mumbai 400001.
3.Keep proof of letter of posting and a xerox copy of complaint.
4.Email eva.sing@qnet and [email protected] demanding refund.Save your emails.
5.Call/sms FIR complainant Gurupreet Singh Anand on 07498063701 for any query regarding all India FIRs, police complaints, ongoing court cases etc.
6.Follow developments on Moneylife Qnet (comments section) and join our Facebook group 'Anti Qnet India', where we are all exposing this MLM company along with others in a big way.
7.Spread the word and this message if you can, as it will be a big help.
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My friend Natraj Korgaonkar suddenly called me after 1 year, regarding a business meet. When he met me he started to enquire about my financial status, so I shared that it was not that good. He told me that he was running a business for which he left his job & is making more than the salary offered by the job. That sounded good so I fixed a meet. He told me that, it is 4 to 5 years project in which we will meet the VP (Vice Presidents) from different companies in the whole world. He assured that in this business I will be able to make rupees 4 to 5 crore in next 5 years. He asked me that if i would like to join him. I asked for a bit of details from him. He took me to his senior partner, named Mikhil Samel. Mikhil told me that they have very less positions for partners, which was valid only for that day hence i have to book the position immediately without delay, otherwise they will sign up some one else for their business project.
For this I was suppose to pay Rs. 3 lakhs to start the business, I did not have the arrangement for that sum so I said no to it. Then they said you can pay the booking amount approximately $595 (INR 45,000) and block the position. So I did the same. Then he insisted to make my husband join under me. I said will have to try first & then will put more money in the business, they then assured me the they will manage the business for me and were reluctant to share what exactly the business idea was. Since Natraj Korgaonkar was a trusted friend & used to work with me I believed it & also enrolled my husband for the same amount $595 (INR 45,000). When i asked about the business, they mentioned that “it is an e commerce business. Hence by paying money, i will be buying 3 shares of the company named Q.Net and i will be a partner”. They said ” I will get a IR code, which i can circulate amongst my friend & relatives circle and whenever they will shop, i will get the 10% to 14% of the total amount. They told me that projected profit per partner is 4.81 crore in 4 to 5 years. So, it’s not at all tough business.” When i was asking about company & business more, he never answered. He said its not our “standard operating procedure” SOP and you will know it gradually. As they were pressurizing me for money to close the position. I applied for loan, and i made an online purchase on the website using my credit card for both the transactions. We were not given options as to what we can buy & were forced to buy the holiday package (Explore 1 for 7nights & 8 Days).
Before enrolling said that this is very easy, he had promised me that I had to put in 2 to 3 hours daily from home, where few days later as after enrolling & making the payment he said I have to work at any time of the day & only as per his availability & meet at the place feasible to him. Most of the time when I called him he was busy during the day time & could not provide enough support. He used to come home at late night to explain the further procedures. I was not comfortable but had no option as I had payed already. I was shocked to see, that the destination for the Holiday package will decided by the company as per hotel & room availability & I had to suggest 3 options for the destination also that I will have to pay a sum of INR 6500 to book the date of my holiday which was not explained earlier. He showed me financial’s of the company and while seeing financials i came to know that it is “Network Marketing”, and I have to make 6 partners to start making money. than i realised that something wrong has happened with me. After Financials he took me to Mc Donalds, Hub Mall Goregaon, Mumbai for some Welcome session, In which they were talking about “Dreams”. They told me to write down minimum 20 Dreams that i would like to fulfill, than he told to make a name list of people whom i know. minimum 500 names. He explained that our name list should exceed by 10% every month, means we have to make new friend to make business partners. etc. The very next day after this session, he took me to a conference that these people call it as “System”. Where their Senior Partners (they call them Uplines) come and address the audience by showing off money & their experience. Still I was not clear that what is this all going on? What I have to do in business? and Natraj was not answering me regarding anything. Whenever i questioned him, he roudly replied that “just do as i am saying, dont dare to run your own brain in this work. No Questions, Just do as i say”. He gave a set of books and DVD’s to study before i start this business for which I had to pay additional INR 1000. I read the books & watched the DVD’s they were all about how to do network marketing. I was amazed to see, that I have got trapped by the tactics shown in the DVD’s & Books. Next time when he met me, he told me about Hot, Warm & Cold Zones. Hot Zones – Means the people who are very close to you and trust you a lot like your parents, best friends and relatives. Warm Zones – Means your normal friends Cold means – the people whom you dont know at all. These zones were the targets for them.
Natraj told me to make name list of all 500 contacts on my social networking websites. I was doing it than he told me to call up my near dear ones and tell them ” Bada acha business hath laga hai, send me money of minimum Rs.1 lakh immediately to my account. Agar profit nai mila toh, i will give you double amount in 3 years that no bank will give” He told me show urgency by saying ” I have only 1 position and i have to close it immediately, send me money jaldi se” . he told me not to answer any questions of anyone and keep the call. I felt very strange about all these things. According to me, this is not a right or ethical thing that was happening with me. Whatever they were teaching me, was not at all convincing for me. My ethics doesn’t allow me to do anything wrong and lie anyone for money. Hence after seeing all this, i started asking more questions from Natraj and he started getting more & more rude with me. I have been cheated because i saw that, they are teaching me ways to make people fool and get the money from your own friends & relatives. i found it completely unethical. The people who are called Up Lines, listen to every call. They listen to calls to know what are we talking about, as we are not supposed to say a single word without their permission. They want me to get people on the table to see this business plan, and immediately pay them money. I felt my money has been wasted unnecessarily and still i have to pay INR 6500 for the holiday package. I was never informed about the return policy or else I would have changed my decision to pay for this scam. On sheer trust i gave money and now i am paying EMI’s because i can’t lie or break anyone’s trust. Hence I didn’t even made a single partner in this business. I would like to get my money back, so that I can pay my loan back and can live my life peacefully.
Regards
vaismist@gmail
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Press Trust of India | Mumbai
May 29, 2014 Last Updated at 18:38 IST
Hong Kong-based multi-level marketing company QNET, allegedly involved in Rs 425-crore financial fraud, today filed an appeal in a sessions court here challenging a lower court order which had blocked its websites.
The appeal would come up for hearing by May 31, court sources said.
On a plea made by Economic Offences Wing (EOW) of Mumbai police, a city Magistrate had on May 3 issued an order asking Indian Computer Emergency Response Team (CERT) of Information and Technology Department of the Union Government to block the websites/servers of the company.
Accordingly, the CERT blocked these websites which were allegedly indulging in online illegal money circulation schemes. Being aggrieved, QNET filed an appeal in the sessions court.
The EOW had alleged that the websites of QNET induced the people to jump into money circulation scheme and thus they got cheated by way of selling various products.
The EOW had arrested nine team leaders of QNET for allegedly duping investors by offering to sell products like magnetic disks, herbal products and holiday schemes through fraudulent practices. However, they were released on bail later.
QNET has also been accused of using the banned binary pyramid business model for their multi-level marketing schemes to entice investors. The accused have been charged with cheating and forgery under relevant sections of the Prize, Chits and Money Circulation Schemes (Banning) Act 1978.
QNET contended in the appeal that it used its websites -- http://www.Qnet.Net, http://www.Questnet.Net and http://www.Qnetindia.In -- as their "e-commerce" platform to sell various products.
The company said that without hearing them or giving them an opportunity to plead its case, the Magistrate passed the impugned order asking the authorities to block websites.
QNET argued that it was engaged in e-commerce and hence its websites is their blood line. The EOW want to block their website to stop the blood line and bring the company business to collapse before proving the allegations levelled against them in the FIR registered in August last year.
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Press Trust of India | Updated On: May 28, 2014 23:53 (IST)
Hyderabad:
The Khammam police in Andhra Pradesh took Amway India chief executive William Scott Pinckney into custody on Wednesday following registration of a case against the direct selling company.
Amway is facing nine criminal cases at various places in Andhra Pradesh.
A court in Kurnool district also rejected Mr Pinckney's bail petition and granted his five-day remand to Kurnool police while the Punjagutta police registered yet another case against him.
However, before Kurnool police could take his custody, the Khammam Police obtained a production warrant from a court in Khammam and furnished it to the Kadapa jail authorities on Wednesday evening. A complaint has been filed against Amway by one G Rama Rao in Khammam.
"We have taken him (Pinckney) into custody from Kadapa prison....He will be produced before a court in Khammam district," a senior police official told PTI on Wednesday evening.
Kurnool Superintendent of Police (SP) Raghurami Reddy said they will seek Mr Pinckney's custody from Khammam police by producing the Kurnool court's order. "We may lose one day (of custodial interrogation period) in this process," he said.
"The police were permitted to take him (Pinckney) into five-day custody from tomorrow (by Kurnool court). It (the Amway business) is going on for the past several years. We need to find out the details about the company's revenues and mode of operations," the police official told PTI over phone from Kurnool.
Responding to a complaint alleging financial irregularities in Amway's operations, Mr Pinckney was arrested in Gurgaon by the Kurnool Police. He was produced before a court on Tuesday which sent him to Kadapa district jail on a judicial remand.
Meanwhile, a complaint of cheating was registered against Amway in Punjagutta police station in Hyderabad by a local organisation on Wednesday, said Deputy Commissioner of Police (West Zone) V Satyanarayana.
"The matter has been forwarded to the legal cell seeking its opinion as no victim has come forward with regard to the complaint....the victim has to come forward and tell about the alleged wrongful loss caused by the multi-marketing business run by the company," he said.
Amway faces criminal complaints in Guntur, Vijayawada, Prakasam, Khammam, Warangal and Medak. In addition, there are three cases in Hyderabad.
According to police, the CID had registered a criminal case against Amway in 2006. The company approached High Court seeking a declaration that its marketing scheme does not fall under the provisions of 'The Prize Chits and Money Circulation Schemes (Banning) Act, 1978'.
But the HC held that the scheme is an illegal 'Money Circulation Scheme' and falls within the definition of mischief as described in the Act. The company got no relief from the Supreme Court either, as per the police.
Terming the FIRs as "frivolous and misleading", Amway in a late night statement said Mr Pinckney has been denied bail and the company will move higher court.
It also said the police started moving Pinckney from Kadapa jail to Khammam jail even before the outcome of the bail hearing in Kurnool. This movement was based on another "frivolous" FIR lodged in Khammam some days ago, it added.
"Subsequently, in the evening, the bail application of William Pinckney was denied by the Kurnool court. We will now approach the sessions court."
"We maintain that the allegations mentioned in the FIRs are frivolous and give a misleading impression about our business. We had no prior information about the FIR which was filed way back in December 2013," it said.
The developments highlight the need to amend the Prize Chits and Money Circulation Schemes (Banning) Act 1978 (PCMCS) under which the complaints have been filed against Amway and its CEO, the statement said.
"Frivolous or motivated complaints filed against a legitimate direct selling company like Amway have been misinterpreted and booked under the PCMCS Act. As pointed out by the Secretary General of FICCI yesterday, such instances can potentially damage the country's reputation as an investment destination," it said.
The company ask the authorities to take note of the challenges faced by the direct selling industry and provide guidelines to recognise legitimate direct selling companies. The direct selling industry generates an annual revenue of more than Rs. 7,100 crore, it said.
Amway operates its business through the direct selling model in markets with very stringent direct selling and consumer protection regulations like the USA, UK, China, Malaysia, Singapore, Vietnam without challenge or inhibition maintaining the highest levels of probity, integrity, corporate governance and consumer protection standards, it said.
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Welcome back from the WE-Con.
Your leaders made claims and were posting many things like we are back "Stronger and We will make it grow BIGGER", I hope you all like this pleasant surprise of all your web sites being blocked now.
Well You all white collared criminals had been cheating innocent people even after my FIR was registered and action by the EOW by making statements that "TILL DATE NO COURT HAS ORDERED ANYTHING AGAINST US"
So Dear QTARDS how do u all feel to know that a competent court has ordered for blocking of all known web sites running this SICK QNET SCAM ONLINE.
This is the site i been waiting to see since long...here is the image
http://imageupper.com/i/?S0200010100011B...
For non-techies it means no web services are responding of the qnet web sites.
With the premier agencies having started investigations into this decade old SCAM, i am sure the flight details and flight manifests of all you sick QTARDS is under radar and all those QTARDS who have taken innocent people to Malaysia this year for the WE-CON will be arrested soon...
Jai Hind
Guru
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Tax Court Denies Amway Losses - Again
It’s been a while since I’ve seen a Tax Court decision about Amway losses. Several years ago I did a study of all Amway cases. The taxpayers almost always lost and generally for the same reasons. The case of Samer and Mariana Mikhail, decided this month, does not break any new ground. The taxpayers were representing themselves and the stakes were fairly low – deficiency of $8,286 for the year 2009.
What is Amway all about?
I attended an Amway presentation many years ago. Apparently things have not changed that much. Amway markets a variety of consumer products through a direct marketing system. The participants are referred to as IBOs (Independent Business Owners). According to its website, Amway has paid out over $40 billion in bonuses and incentives to IBOs since 1959. The key to success as an Amway IBO is not so much selling the product yourself as it is recruiting other people (your down-line), who recruit other people and so on. You get a piece of the action for everybody down line to you just as your upline gets a piece of the action from the sales you generate.
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The Tax Court explains it this way.
Amway’s compensation system for distributors results in a pyramidlike network of distributors. Under this system an “upline” or “sponsor” distributor is encouraged to recruit new “downline” distributors to become part of his or her organization. “Downline” distributors likewise are encouraged to recruit new distributors who in turn become “legs” of the original “upline” distributor’s organization. “Downline” distributors recruited by the same “upline” distributor are referred to as “crossline” distributors. An “upline” distributor receives bonus payments from Amway based on the volume of sales (as opposed to profits) generated by the “downline” distributors who are part of his or her organization.
How did it work for the Mikhails?
Dr. Samar Mikhail is a physician employed by the US Department of Veterans Affairs. In 2007, the final year of his residency, he earned about $64,000. From 2008 to 2011, his earnings went from about $145,000 to about $165,000. Mrs. Mikhail has had some short-term part-time jobs but has mainly been a homemaker.
Dr. Mikhail was recruited in 2004 by his dentist. He did some research and concluded that the negative assessments you will read about Amway are attributable to individuals “who did not follow the system”. Apparently the Mikhails decided that they would “follow the system”.
Petitioners conducted their Amway activities in accordance with instructions from their “upline” distributors, educational materials obtained from an Amway-related educational system known as Leadership Team Development (LTD), and information obtained while attending Amway seminars, workshops, and conferences. Petitioners did not seek advice from disinterested professionals, develop a business plan, prepare profit projections, or undertake any type of market analysis.
Petitioners attended weekly and monthly Amway meetings held locally and elsewhere in Florida. During 2009 they attended five national Amway.
The part I highlighted is a tip-off that the case is not going to go well for the Mikhails. Tax Court judges are big believers in business plans.
Dr. Mikhail testified that the time he devotes to Amway activities is largely directed at recruiting new distributors. He further testified that he usually spends his lunch hour, as well as an hour or two after work, and approximately three hours every weekend on Amway activities and that Amway is always “at the forefront” of his mind. Dr. Mikhail spent more time on Amway activities than Mrs. Mikhail.
Mrs. Mikhail testified that she is responsible for bookkeeping, business management, and organization of Amway parties and events. During 2009 she maintained records of the couple’s Amway-related expenses including a mileage log, a spreadsheet listing monthly expenses, and credit card statements. Petitioners did not use their Amway records to prepare a formal budget or conduct a break-even analysis.
Petitioners initially attempted to recruit family members and friends as “downline” distributors but found that most of them were unable to “overcome their life circumstances and continue to build Amway with us”. Petitioners later altered their recruitment strategy by frequenting upscale restaurants and shopping areas and striking up conversations with people they encountered with the aim of identifying what they termed “learners”. Petitioners purchased books and CDs from LTD and gave them to potential recruits.
The Mikhails posted losses in every year from 2005 through 2011. All in, there was less than $30,000 in revenue and a total net loss of $192,427
The Decision
The Court starts off with the classic nine factors.
These factors are: (1) the manner in which the taxpayer carries on the activity; (2) the expertise of the taxpayer or his advisers; (3) the time and effort expended by the taxpayer in carrying on the activity; (4) the expectation that the assets used in the activity may appreciate in value; (5) the taxpayer’s success in carrying on other similar or 4 dissimilar activities; (6) the taxpayer’s history of income or losses with respect to the activity; (7) the amount of occasional profits, if any, which are earned; (8) the financial status of the taxpayer; and (9) any elements indicating personal pleasure or recreation.
They pretty much went 0 for 9.
Although petitioners kept records of their Amway expenses, they did not use those records to analyze their business performance or to prepare profit projections, a break-even analysis, or a formal budget.
Petitioners obtained advice only from “upline” distributors—persons who had a direct financial interest in the maximization of petitioners’ sales volume, without regard to whether they would realize a profit.
Under the circumstances, we conclude petitioners did not spend a significant amount of time on the Amway activity.
Petitioners had no prior experience engaging in a direct marketing distributorship or managing a small business of any sort.
Although petitioners testified that they believe the Amway activity will eventually generate profits, we cannot discern on this record any definitive trend to the upside for petitioners, and there certainly is no indication that they are on their way to the level of profitability that would allow them to recoup the substantial cumulative losses they have incurred to date.
The record shows that petitioners used their Amway distributorship as a means to generate deductions for essentially personal expenditures and to enjoy discounts on items they purchased for personal consumption. The availability of consumer product discounts for personal use merchandise is a factor supporting the conclusion that petitioners lacked a profit objective.
We also note that petitioners (1) traveled together to attend Amway seminars and conferences in various cities, (2) took trips to New York and Texas to discuss Amway with family and friends, and (3) hosted meetings that had a social component. All things considered, we conclude that petitioners derived personal benefits and pleasure from the Amway activity. This factor weighs against petitioners.
About Being An Amway IBO
It is not hard to find a lot of criticism of the Amway IBO experience. According to the critics most people don’t make any money and the big earners make most of their money from selling motivational tools to the wannabees. Then you will find critics of the critics. I have determined to remain agnostic on that issue. The record in Tax Court is somewhat supportive of the critics, but of course there is a sampling problem. Successful Amway IBOs will not end up in Tax Court defending year after year losses.
The most colorful critic is probably the author of Married To An Ambot. Of course there are those who question her sincerity. I have decided not to have a dog in that fight, but to stick with what I read in original tax documents, which allows me to formulate some advice that is sound regardless of what the “truth about Amway” is. It boils down to two suggestions.
My Suggestions.
My first suggestion is that if you want to have a side business to make personal expenses deductible (which is something that you should not do at all, by the way), Amway is about the worst thing to pick. People with persistent Amway losses do not do well in Tax Court. The other is that if you expect that a side activity will ultimately be profitable, you might want to consider suspending the losses under Code Section 469. Although, in principle, this does not immunize you from being attacked under Section 183, as a practical matter it does since you are not getting a current benefit. You will get the benefit when the activity becomes profitable or you abandon it.
You can follow me on twitter @peterreillycpa.
Note
The case has not attracted much notice. Joe Kristan wrote
I avoid multi-level marketing clients because their “profit” so often comes from putting personal expenses on Schedule C. It sure seems that way here.
The Tax Court declined to impose penalties, citing taxpayer maintenance of good records and reliance on a CPA to prepare their returns. Considering that the Tax Court has upheld penalties for taxpayers who are more sympathetic than a doctor deducting his car, it’s somewhat surprising. It shows that even if you can’t show a profit motive, using good records and a preparer can at least help avoid penalties.
By MATT REYNOLDS
LOS ANGELES (CN) - The world's largest Amway distributors expanded their business from Taiwan into Chinese communities in the United States, defrauding their new clients with promises of "enormous profits," nine Amway sellers claim in court.
Lead plaintiff Longsheng Lei and eight other of the self-described "most successful distributors in the entire Amway organization" sued Amway and husband-and-wife Amway distributors Barry Chi and Holly Chen in Superior Court. They allege breach of contract, fraud, false advertising, unfair competition, unjust enrichment, conversion and negligent misrepresentation.
"Defendants, husband and wife Barry Chi and Holly Chen are the single largest Amway distributors in the world," the lawsuit states. "Barry and Holly's network has spread from her base in Taiwan to Chinese communities in United States, including the Southern California region."
Chi and Chen persuaded the plaintiffs to attend their seminars and become "independent business owners" through Amway's pyramid selling structure, Lei says.
According to the 14-page lawsuit, the husband and wife made "false promises of enormous profit" and Chen told seminar attendees that she has so much money she "doesn't even know how much she makes."
Lei claims that although the defendants promised she could make hundreds of thousands of dollars or even millions in commissions, the reality is that Amway knows its business owners make closer to $200 a month.
She claims that Amway and Chen and Chi, like other high-level distributors, make most of their money through the sale of "non-Amway" motivational books, tapes and seminars.
Lei claims that after she became an independent business owner in 2011, Amway falsely accused her of using other Amway sellers to send products to an Army base in Texas.
Another distributor, plaintiff Hui Cao, was accused, with scant evidence, of selling Amway products through Amazon storefront, Platinum Wire, according to the lawsuit.
Amway suspended Lei's registrations and withheld Cao's commissions even though Amway represents to distributors that they work for themselves and are not "bound one to the other in any other relationship other than that of an independent arm's length business relationship," the lawsuit states.
The plaintiffs seek punitive damages and costs and are represented by Long Liu of San Gabriel.
Amway did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
http://www.courthousenews.com/2014/04/29...
CNN-IBN
Feb 26, 2008 at 11:35am IST
Software professional A V S Satyanarayana changed gears to become an Amway distributor only to realise he could not steer his life anymore. “What they publicise and talk inside are completely different. It is very much illegal. You can’t force your consumer to buy certain things and you can't force another consumer to utilise these things,” says Satyanarayana.
When his family life started to come apart Satyanarayana opted out but not before filing a FIR against Amway India Enterprises with the CID in Hyderabad. “I expressed my unwillingness to continue in the scheme and inability to enroll other member. They approached my family members and office subordinates and started to harass them to join in the scheme on my behalf,” says Satyanarayana.
“Amway confuses distributor as consumer, consumer as distributor. If consumer raises his voice and says this product is costly and suddenly they say you are a distributor you can't talk and if you go as a distributor say you need low prices,” Satyanarayana.
Loss or gain
A CNN-IBN investigation sought to find out the truth about multi-level marketing. It met a couple whose children sank their retirement benefits into network marketing. Dr Umamaheshwar Rao, a retired scientist, and his wife were initially supportive of their children's venture.
“For over five or six years they were into the business. I went along with them supported them in every way financially, physically and morally, but in the end it was found to be a losing game by themselves,” says Rao.
The expenditure was guaranteed but not the income. “The net result is a loss. The sales were less and the money spent in the game was more.” The family lost several lakh rupees even as their children drifted away.
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“It ruined our inter-personal relationships. People were cult controlled in immeasurable ways,” says Rao, who has filed a public interest litigation (PIL) for action against Amway.
In Percherla village, in Andhra Pradesh's Guntur district, the CNN-IBN investigation met more families who accuse network marketing companies of exploiting their ignorance and illiteracy.
Anasuya is a tailor. She has been dealing with angry neighbours ever since she got them to join the network-marketing scheme of Pearls Agrotech Corporation. “They told me pay Rs 1,365 per annum and after five and half year you will get Rs 10,900,” says Anasuya.
“The agent pursued me and said if I get 10 members I will be paid more commission. They were even promised plots of land as payment. They gave bonds in which there is no money but a plot I don't know where this plot is,” alleges Anasuya.
People from Percherla have been duped into shelling out almost Rs 20 lakh for land that only exists on paper. In Ramadevi's case after this dud investment, her husband just walked out on her.
“The money I paid was without the consent of my husband that led to problems. My husband left home,” says Ramadevi.
When contacted Pearls Agrotech refused to comment.
The recipe for success
Like Indian companies, Amway has also found its way into the villages of Andhra Pradesh. Brammiah Addanki wanted to do better in life, and was told that by joining Amway he could achieve his dream of owning a concrete house.
Brahmiah and his wife earned just Rs 4,000 a month and they poured all of that to become Amway distributors. “They promised my wife air tickets. She was told to enroll more persons to earn her commission. We were also told these products would earn us a lot of money,” says Brahmiah.
They spent thousands on enrolling members and stockpiling products… including items they didn't even need. Till they realised that buying was easier than selling.
“Out of Rs 20,000 I only recovered Rs 5,000. We had to consume most of it ourselves because these items are too expensive for others in the village. We put our savings into this. We borrowed money, now we are in debt,” says Brammiah.
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Gajulapeta in Ibrahimpatnam is full of families who have lost money chasing the promises held out by network marketing firms.
Baali, a daily labourer earning Rs 50 a day, mortgaged her house hoping to become a successful Amway Business Owner. “When they met me, they said it's a great opportunity to earn money. I didn't have spare money then, so I raised it by mortgaging my house,” says Baali.
“First I paid Rs 5,000, then Rs 2000 and then Rs 2000 again. Like this I paid Rs 50,000 borrowing on interest,” says Baali.
“Companies create a rosy picture saying you should become a member of multi-level marketing and you will get many things. They say you will get health as well as wealth,” says Divakar Babu, of the Consumer Guidance Society.
Baali, like most women in Gajulapeta, got none. She curses herself for not being able to look beyond the gloss. CNN-IBN then approached the woman who introduced Amway and roped in all her neighbors to do network marketing in this small village.
B Lakshmi didn’t know about the risks of network marketing and enthusiastically made a down line of 30 people. “They said it depends upon the number of people I can convince to join. I was told I could earn up to Rs 50,000 a month. I would start with Rs 5000 and by the end of one year it would be Rs 50,000,” says Lakshmi
To sail the seven seas, she even borrowed from micro finance schemes. Lakshmi and her husband's story will never make it to these brochures her husband is livid and the neighbors unforgiving…
When asked how they chose their distributors, in a written response, Amway admitted that no minimum educational qualifications were required. Self-belief and a strong desire to succeed in the long term was needed in the business, the company said.
Amway Response:
"The Direct Selling Industry does not "impose" any minimum desirable educational qualification"
"For distributors, self belief and a strong desire to succeed with a long term business perspective is needed"
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/all-that-glit...
45. What are money circulation/Ponzi/multi-level marketing schemes?
Money circulation, multi level marketing / Chain Marketing or Ponzi schemes are schemes promising easy or quick money upon enrollment of members. Income under Multi level marketing or pyramid structured schemes do not come from the sale of products they offer as much as from enrolling more and more members from whom hefty subscription fees are taken. It is incumbent upon all members to enroll more members, as a portion of the subscription amounts so collected are distributed among the members at the top of the pyramid. Any break in the chain leads to the collapse of the pyramid, and the members lower in the pyramid are the ones that are affected the most. Ponzi schemes are those schemes that collect money from the public on promises of high returns. As there is no asset creation, money collected from one depositor is paid as returns to the other. Since there is no other activity generating returns, the scheme becomes unviable and impossible for the people running the scheme to meet the promised return or even return the principal amounts collected. The scheme inevitably fails and the perpetrators disappear with the money.
46. Is acceptance of money under Money Circulation/Multi-level Marketing/Pyramid structured schemes allowed?
No. Acceptance of money under Money Circulation/Multi-level Marketing/Pyramid structured schemes and Ponzi schemes is not allowed as acceptance of money under those schemes is a cognizable offence under the Prize Chit and Money Circulation (Banning) Act 1978.
47. Does RBI regulate Money Circulation/Multi-level Marketing/Pyramid structured scheme?
No. Prize Chits and Money Circulation Schemes are banned under the Prize Chits and Money Circulation Schemes (Banning) Act of 1978. The Reserve Bank has no role in implementation of this Act, except advising and assisting the Central Government in framing the Rules under this Act.
48. Then who regulates entities that run such schemes?
Money Circulation/Multi-level Marketing /Pyramid structured schemes are an offence under the Prize Chits and Money Circulation Schemes (Banning) Act, 1978. The Act prohibits any person or individual to promote or conduct any prize chit or money circulation scheme or enrol as member to its schemes or anyone to participate in it by either receiving or remitting any money in pursuance of such chit or scheme. Contravention of the provisions of this Act, is monitored and dealt with by the State Governments.
49. What if someone operates such a scheme?
Any information/grievance relating to such schemes should be given to the police / Economic Offence Wing (EOW) of the concerned State Government or the Ministry of Corporate Affairs. If brought to RBI notice – we will inform the same to the concerned State Government authorities.
50. Who can the Depositor/Investor turn to in case of grievances?
The two Charts given at Annex I and II depict the activities and the regulators overseeing the same. Complaints may hence be addressed to the concerned regulator. If the activity is a banned activity, the aggrieved person can approach the State Police/Economic Offences Wing of the State Police and lodge a suitable complaint.
51. Who has the power to take action against Unincorporated Bodies (UIBs) accepting deposits?
As per Section 45T of RBI Act, both the RBI and State Governments have been given concurrent powers. Nonetheless, in order to take immediate action against the offender, the information should immediately be passed on to the State Police or the Economic Offences Wing of the concerned State who can take prompt and appropriate action. Since the State Government machinery is widespread and the State Government is also empowered to take action under the provisions of RBI Act, 1934, any information on such entities accepting deposits may be provided immediately to the respective State Government’s Police Department/EOW.
Many of the State Governments have enacted the State Protection of Interests of Depositors Act in Financial Establishments, which empowers the State Government to take appropriate and timely action.
Section 45S of the RBI Act 1934 specifically prohibits unincorporated bodies like individuals, firms and unincorporated association of individuals from accepting deposits from the public if they are carrying on financial activity or are accepting deposits as their principal business. The Act makes acceptance of deposits by such UIBs punishable with imprisonment or fine or both.
The RBI Act, 1934, gives concurrent powers to the Reserve Bank and the State Government to obtain a search warrant from the Court to investigate the acceptance of deposits by such UIBs.
An Authorized Officer of the Reserve Bank or the State Government can file a complaint in a court of law against the unincorporated bodies and the individuals concerned for the offence.
http://www.rbi.org.in/scripts/FAQView.as...
Imphal Free Press
By Imphal Free Press May 17, 2011 21:00
IMPHAL May 17: In the aftermath of the financial devastation caused by certain networks namely Visarev, Unipay, Forex ,Global Index Daily which had swindled crores from scores of investors from the state, the government has finally addressed the issue.
A notification of the Finance department signed by V K Dewangan, commissioner has informs the public that Prize chits or benefit schemes only give advantage to the promoters and do not serve any social purpose.
Thus, the so called Multi Level Marketing (MLM), though called by very attractive names squarely falls within the definition of `Money Circulation Scheme`Â under the act and hence prohibited by the Prize Chits and Money Circulation Schemes (Banning) (Manipur) Rules, 1978.
The notification says that the general public should avoid and not enroll themselves into these schemes as they not only destroy the economic fabric of the state but also the fiscal system of the country.
Further, it also informed that MLM schemes destroy the knitted social fabric of our society and therefore, the public should not associate themselves with such companies. Citing previous cases of the Supreme Court and various other courts issuing judgments against the MLM`â„¢s which are camouflaged illegal money circulation schemes, it mentions cases of Amway vs State of Andhra Pradesh, FMCG vs State of Tamil Nadu etc and in these cases, the judgments`â„¢ passed clearly states that these types of schemes are prejudicial to public interest and also adversely affects the efficacy of fiscal and monetary policy as siphoning of crores take place without accountability.
In this regard, the department of Financial Services, ministry of Finance, government of India has directed the Directorate of Enforcement and Central Economic Intelligence Bureau for taking up appropriate action against these major financial scams. The Central Economic Intelligence Bureau, in turn has directed state governments for taking up appropriate action.
Further, it states that the general public, government officials and others concerned that the specific provisions under Prize Chit and Money Circulation Schemes (Banning) (Manipur) RULES, 1978 and relevant sections under section 420 of the Indian Penal Code are available to be invoked and effectively check and prevent progress of such dubious floated companies.
The notice further mentioned that Section 3 of Prize Chits and Money Circulation Schemes (Banning) Act, 1978 bans such schemes or participation in such schemes. Section 4 and 5 are penal provisions and prescribe punishment. Section 6 deals with offences committed by such companies. Section 7 authorizes police officers not below the rank of OC to exercise power to enter and search premises and to seize things used for such schemes. Section 8 provides for forfeiture of newspaper and publication containing money circulation schemes. The Preamble of 1978 Act declares that it has been enacted `to ban the promotion or conduct of prize chits and money circulation schemes and for matters connected therewith and incidental thereto`Â, it added.
The notice mentions that the easy prey is the middle class and loses all their savings even at the cost of their blood relations, with their kith and kin also being victimized. The worst sufferers in such schemes are often unemployed youths who lose their time, health, wealth in the wild goose chase. Such schemes have ultimately destroyed a number of families and friendships, it said.
http://kanglaonline.com/2011/05/state-go...
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3. Briefly stated the facts are: that the petitioner had imported "Amezcua Chi Pendant" said to be artificial jewellery from its supplier M/s. QNET Ltd., Hong Kong. Value of the goods was declared to be `4,47,45,092/- by the petitioner. Self assessment was made and system appraisal through Risk Management System and the petitioner paid duty of `97,46,340/- on 14.12.2012. The Bill of Entry was taken up for investigation by the Special Intelligence and Investigation Branch (SIIB) on information that the goods were misclassified and under valued. The goods were examined on 27.12.2012 at the warehouse, Customs Freight Station. It was found that the goods were 'Glass Pendant' and not artificial jewellery as stated in the Bill of Entry. It was also stated that they were "Made in Germany" and its country of origin was not Malaysia as stated by the petitioner. The 5
respondent-Department found that the classification was improperly made by the petitioner and that a higher rate of customs duty was applicable to the goods. On further investigation, the Department found that price of the goods were under valued by the importer and that there were several other deficiencies in the import.
4. The second respondent prima facie found that there was a mis-declaration on the part of the importer on the following grounds: a) Description
b) Country of origin
c) Classification
d) Existence of relationship with the supplier e) True transaction value
5. Under these circumstances, goods were seized by mahazar drawn on 11.01.2013. Thereafter, the petitioner sought release of the goods by its letter dated 01.02.2013. In the meanwhile, 6
WP No.19402/2013 had been preferred before this Court. Since the case required adjudication on the aforesaid aspects, the second respondent passed an Order under Section 110(2) of the Customs Act, 1962 extending the detention of the goods by further period of six months upto 10.01.2014.
http://www.indiankanoon.org/doc/14448451...
Learned counsel for the petitioner submits that the petitioner is an American national. He is Chief Executive Officer and Managing Director of M/s Amway India Enterprises Pvt. Ltd. incorporated under the Companies Act. The said Company has a turnover of Rs.2000 Crore per annum in India. The FIR was registered in the year 2002 and thereafter, the untraced report was prepared but due to variety of reasons all of a sudden, the CRM-M No.19553 of 2013 Investigating agency presented the charge sheet in the year 2012.
Petitioner William Scott Pinckney son of Bernard Ross Pinckney is permitted to leave India in accordance with the norms from 22.6.2013 to 29.6.2013 subject to his furnishing security by two Indian Directors of M/s Amway India Enterprises Pvt. Ltd. in the sum of ` 5 lacs each by way of bank guarantee/fixed deposit receipts to the satisfaction of the learned trial Court/Duty Magistrate, Chandigarh.
http://indiankanoon.org/doc/49506765/
Prayer in this petition is for grant of permission to petitioner Prithvi Raj Bijlani to leave India and visit abroad. The petitioner has been booked for the offence punishable under Section 420, IPC and Sections 3 & 4 of the Prize Chits and Money Circulation Schemes Banning Act, 1978 in three separate cases arising out of the one and same FIR.
The petitioner is an Indian national. He was Director of CRM-M No.19823 of 2013 -3- M/s Amway India Enterprises Pvt. Ltd. at the relevant time.
The petitioner is permitted to leave India from 21.6.2013 to 2.7.2013 subject to his furnishing indemnity bonds in the sum of ` 2 lacs with two local sureties to the satisfaction of the learned trial Court/Duty Magistrate, Chandigarh.
http://indiankanoon.org/doc/166252796/
...34. It is, thus, evident that the whole scheme is so ingeniously conceived that the inducement for aggressive enrollment of new members to earn more and more commission is inherent in the scheme. By holding out attractive commission on the business turned out by the downline members, the scheme provides for sufficient inducements for its members to chase for the new members in their hot pursuit to make quick/easy money. On the part of the promoter by pushing each member to achieve the minimum sales worth Rs. 2,000/- per month, (this sale includes enrollment of new members) he is assured of about Rs. 1000 crores per annum. All this squarely satisfy the description of quick/easy money. In addition to this, it is an admitted fact that each person in order to continue to be the distributor, shall pay renewal subscription fee of Rs. 995/- per annum. In para-11(b) of the counter affidavit on the admitted number of distributors of 4,50,000 this amount is calculated at about Rs. 45 crores per annum. These figures are not denied by the first petitioner in its rejoinder. The plea of the first petitioner that there is no compulsion that a member shall renew his distributorship looks to us to be specious. Once a person becomes a distributor in a scheme of this nature where the sops in the shape of commission are so luring, it would be very difficult for a member to withdraw from their membership to avoid payment of the annual renewal subscription fee.
35. From the whole analysis of the scheme and the way in which it is structured it is quite apparent that once a person gets into this scheme he will find it difficult to come out of the web and it becomes a vicious circle for him. In any event the petitioners have not specifically denied the turnover they are achieving and the income they are earning towards the initial enrollment of the distributors, the renewal subscription fee and the minimum sales being achieved by the distributors as alleged in the counter affidavit. By no means can it be said that the money which the first petitioner is earning is not the quick/easy money. By promising payment of commission on the business turned out by the down-line members sponsored either directly or indirectly by the up-line members (which constitutes an event or contingency relative to enrollment of members), the first petitioner is earning quick/easy money from its distributors, apart from ensuring its distributor earn quick/easy money. Thus the two ingredients are satisfied in the case of promoter too. We are, therefore, of the considered view that the scheme run by the petitioners squarely attracts the definition of "Money Circulation Scheme" as provided in Section 2(c) of the Act....
41. The complaint submitted to the CID Police, Hyderabad in this case is exhaustive. The complainant graphically described how the scheme run by petitioner No.1 through the other petitioners and various distributors in the country constitutes money circulation scheme. The gist of the complaint has already been extracted herein before. From the conclusion arrived at by us on the analysis of the admitted material available before us concerning the scheme, we have no doubt whatsoever that if the allegations contained in the report of C.No.1474/C-27/CiD/2006 dated 24-9-2006 are taken on their face value they make out an offence punishable under the provisions of Sections 4, 5 and 6 of the Act.
http://www.indiankanoon.org/doc/1369717/
This petition under Section 482 of the Code of Criminal Procedure, 1973 is directed against the proceedings in Cr. No. 28 of 2008 on the file of the I Additional Chief Metropolitan Magistrate, Bangalore, which after investigation is registered as CC No. 13035 of 2010 for the offence punishable under Sections 406 and 420 of the Indian Penal Code, 1860.
2. Petitioners are arraigned as accused. The circumstances leading to registration of such a case is that one Smt. Ayisha Begum, Petitioner 12, filed a report alleging that her neighbour Vazeer Vayathyulla Sharieff, had introduced her to M/s. Quest Net Company on the basis that he was working for it. He persuaded her to invest Rs. 30,000/- on the promise that she would get Rs. 1,000/- income per month. Believing his assurance she deposited the amount. He had actually assured other benefits also, but later it was found it was a trick to defraud the complainant. Cheating Was the main offence alleged apart from the charge under Section 406 of IPC.
3. On the basis of her report, investigation by CID resulted in filing of the final report. Petitioners 1 to 11 are summoned. They are ranked as accused 1 to 11. After lodging of the complaint the complainant-Smt. Ayisha Begum on her own volition sought to withdraw her report, but police officers have not allowed her since the final report has already been filed. Pursuant to filing of the final report case is registered in Criminal Case.
4. In the circumstance, the Petitioners have applied to this Court and the complainant has joined them as party array to support their cause. The complainant has also filed an affidavit in this case indicating that she has no interest in prosecuting the case as she has already received the entire amount invested. The learned Counsel for Petitioners would submit that in view of the fact situation there is no case made out to try them for the offence punishable under Section 420 or 406 of IPC or for Sections 4, 5 and, 6 of Prize Chits and Money Circulation Schemes (Banning) Act, 1978.
5. On behalf of the State there is little or nothing to say in the matter because the complainant on whose complaint the case was registered and investigation was carried out by the CID, Bangalore has now recalled and withdrawn all allegations. This Court in similar circumstances accepted the plea of the accused and has quashed the proceedings as is evident from the order passed in Cri. P. No. 5607 of 2009, dated 13-11-2009 and also in Cri. P. No. 6600 of 2009, dated 18-12-2009. Since the same issue has arisen for consideration in this case and in view of the Complainant's stand that she does not intend to prosecute her complaint as she has already received the amount and as there was no intention to Petitioners 1 to 11 to defraud her, I am satisfied that no fruitful purpose would be served in continuing prosecution, which will undoubtedly fail in view of the stand taken by the complainant.
6. In the result, the petition is allowed. The proceedings in CC No. 13035 of 2010 on the file of the I Additional Chief Metropolitan Magistrate, Bangalore, are quashed.
At this stage, the learned Additional State Public Prosecutor Mr. Nawaz, submits that the order may be confined only to the Petitioners in this case.
Accordingly, the order would confine only to the Petitioners herein.
http://www.indiankanoon.org/doc/54266024...
TIMES NEWS NETWORK
Chennai: Former Madras high court judge,Justice KP Sivasubramanian,who has been appointed as settlement commissioner by the Supreme Court in the Gold Quest cheating case,will submit a report to the apex court after a six-monthlong inquiry.
The multi-level marketing company is accused of cheating more than 30,000 people.Addressing mediapersons,Sivasubramanian said,Complainants can file their claims on or before May 31. The commissioner may issue notice to Gold Quest International Pvt Ltd and officials of Crime Branch CID (CB-CID ).
According to the police,CB-CID after completing investigation,filed a comprehensive chargesheet on March 2,2009.Police arrested 13 of the 25 accused and registered 11 cases.CB-CID attached properties including cash deposits and vehicles worth Rs 192 crore belonging to the accused and the company.The company was attempting to get the case closed by providing compensation to only about 200 persons mentioned in the chargesheet.Considering the plight of 32,011 complainants and other victims,CB-CID filed a special leave petition before the Supreme Court.The apex court appointed KP Sivasubramanian as the settlement commissioner on April 19.
http://lite.epaper.timesofindia.com/mobi...
The State Of Tamil Nadu vs Goldquest International Pvt.Ltd on 7 March, 2008
...7. In the case on hand, though it is stated that the accused has settled the claims of several complainants and most of them have given necessary letters withdrawing the complaints given as against him, the element of criminality attached to the acts perpetrated by the accused on the date of complaints is not erased. It is also to be remembered that even the offences alleged against the accused are non-compoundable ones, except the one under Section 420 IPC. It is evident from the facts of the case that 172 persons were cheated by the accused, as against the terms and conditions entered into by them with the customers. Thus, when serious allegations of cheating general public of their hard-earned moneys, by giving false hopes and making use of such amounts collected from the public for self and gained at the public expense, are made against the accused, the learned single Judge is not right in quashing the FIR, merely on the ground that some of the complainants have withdrawn their complaints, forgetting the fact that the criminality attributed to the accused is not erased.
http://indiankanoon.org/doc/186639/
Gold Quest International Pvt. Ltd vs The State Of Tamil Nadu on 9 April, 2003
..... 25. Nothing is placed on record regarding the foundation of the petitioner companies and the aims and objectives of the companies to achieve and how they are beneficial or serving the ends of the society or the general public and therefore needless to mention that only to cover up cases of such nature, Act 43/78 has been legislated by the framers of law revealing thereby the legislative intent to cover up cases of such nature with schemes which are not based on any ideal relying on one's effort, hard work or putting in the intelligence etc. but on luck or chance of making quick or easy money by lazy or lethargic means of enrolling members into the scheme only to enrich the organisers at the cost of the general public which are glaring in the schemes and there is no wonder the respondents have issued proper directions to their subordinates to be on the alert and to avoid innocent general public from falling a prey to the ill-motivated designs or alluring tricks and tactics adopted by parties like the petitioners by using those who fall a prey early being used as their canvassing agents for enlisting more number of the general public to join the scheme ultimately to enrich themselves at the cost of the innocent public who are sure to be cheated ultimately and since many such instances have proved to be utter failures in the recent times giving way for the public to be cheated of their hard-earned life saving monies. Prevention is better than cure. The preventive and punitive measures taken on the part of the respondents cannot, under any circumstance, be termed as either irregular or illegal or infirm or in violation of the norms of law. The respondents have rightly exercised their jurisdiction conferred by law in registering such cases wherein such unlawful activities are reported or brought to the notice of the respondents thereby promptly registering the case either under the relevant provisions of the IPC such as 420 or under the penal provisions of the Special Act such as the Prize Chits and Money Circulation Schemes ( Banning) Act, 1978 and thus they have only acted in adherence to the requirements of law and no such directions or orders as sought for to be made in the above petitions need be necessary in the circumstances of the case.
26. So far as the judgments cited on the part of the petitioners are concerned, in the first judgment by the Honourable Apex Court it is clearly held that `in the first place, it must be proved that he is promoting or conducting a scheme for the making of quick or easy money and secondly, the chance or opportunity of making quick or easy money must be shown to depend upon an event or contingency relative or applicable to the enrolment of members into that scheme', which are the ingredients of the relevant provisions of the Prize Chits and Money Circulation Schemes (Banning) Act, which are laid emphasis by the Honourable Apex Court and the Honourable Apex Court would also hold that the `scheme has necessarily to be judged as a whole both from the viewpoint of the promoters and also of the members in order to find out whether it is a scheme for the making of quick or easy money and any event or contingency relative or applicable to the enrolment of members into the scheme'. Therefore, it is incumbent on the part of the respondents to study each and every such scheme floated and exercise their jurisdiction and proceed against, provided the transaction is not above-board and is secretive or clandestine in nature and if the transaction is considered to be a scheme for making quick or easy money.
27. So far as the case in hand is concerned, on a overall consideration of the facts and circumstances of the scheme floated on the part of the petitioners, the respondents in their considered view have rightly arrived at the conclusion to hold that they fall under the purview of Section 420 IPC and under Section 4 of the Prize Chits and Money Circulation Schemes (Banning) Act, 1978 and hence they have given positive instructions to the law enforcing machinery and the police to register the cases wherever such schemes are floated. Therefore, the actions and prosecutions initiated by the respondents and their subordinates could only be concluded as within the permissible limits of their powers to register such cases and not in violation of any law or rule or norms.
http://indiankanoon.org/doc/267753/
This is the message that was posted on http://www.vanamala-india.com recently...
Dear Members,
Due to service disruptions on our current hotlines, please refer to the following number should you have any queries: 0008006001144 or email us at [email protected]
We apologize for any inconvenience.
Is it a 'Simple" Disruption or there is more then meets the eye..The truth is their offices were raided by the EOW..effectively shutting down the whole operations of Vanamala in Mumbai.
The last time this message was posted after Vanamala's Payment gateways were blocked..
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How good these white collared criminals are at sugar coating the real truth...Raids become "disruptions"...blocking becomes "problems"...shame on you all white collared criminals, you all should be tried for treason for your anti national activities.
This Morning QNET team Leaders had organised a Seminar/System at the following address and invited innocent people to induce them into this illegal money circulation scheme..the system was held at the following address:
Youthapreneurs Training Center, 605, Alpana Bldg, Opp Sarvoday Hospital, LBS Marg, Ghatkopar (W), Mumbai - 86
During the raid Mr.Bijoy Mathews was caught red handed promoting the illegal money circulation scheme in presence of 45 Odd people.
Ironically this Mr.Bijoy Mathews is the same person who has had cooled his heels in the jail for more then 20 days in the past for the same offence.
The officers of EOW detained and questioned several people and names and contact details of 47 people were noted down :)
I am sure the records of the activity today will lead to the cancellation of the bail of several team leaders of QNET.
Let me mention here that a similar activity was done by the EOW several months back when QNET leaders were holding a system meeting in Dadar, Mumbai and details were noted down. These details led to the arrest of Nine qnet leaders earlier.
So guys any guess who all will be arrested now after today's raid/activity?
Best guesses will win prizes ;)
Keep posting/replying...
Regards
Gurupreet
P.S Tomorrow is the Hindi New Year so my msg to QNET "Happy New Year" in advance...
After the ABA of your people are cancelled we will get the bails also cancelled wait and see...
Dear Friends,
As the fight comes to the crucial stage we need some more info inputs from you all, I hope you will all come forward as in the past and help us.
We need the following information:-
1. Details of events/systems etc held in different cities by members of quesetnet/qnet/vihaan etc with dates and name of the venue, with photographs & Videos if available.
2. Names and IR,s numbers of the top leaders of Questnet/QNET all over India.
3. Details of these leaders like the house addresses, cars owned etc.
Please email us all the details on [email protected]
STOP THE SCAM
BE THE CHANGE
Jai Hind
Guru
MUMBAI: Former world amateur billiards champion Michael Ferreira has resigned as president of the Billiards and Snooker Association of Maharashtra, the association said in a media release today.
"The BSAM Managing Committee, in its meeting held on 14th December 2013, unanimously accepted the resignation received from the President Mr Michael Ferreira," the release said.
Thanking Ferreira for his outstanding service over the years, BSAM said vice president Rajan Khinvasara w ..
Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/arti...
आम आदमी सोता हà¥à¤† शेर था, अब जगाया है तो चिर फाड़ देगा............
MUMBAI: Former world amateur billiards champion Michael Ferreira has resigned as president of the Billiards and Snooker Association of Maharashtra, the association said in a media release today.
"The BSAM Managing Committee, in its meeting held on 14th December 2013, unanimously accepted the resignation received from the President Mr Michael Ferreira," the release said.
Thanking Ferreira for his outstanding service over the years, BSAM said vice president Rajan Khinvasara w ..
Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/arti...
आम आदमी सोता हà¥à¤† शेर था, अब जगाया है तो चिर फाड़ देगा............
A rebuttal of the false claims made by Team Faith's "Lead Bird".
“I’m abroad taking medical treatment for a longstanding problem that I have.”
“As soon as I am cleared to travel, I will appear before the EOW.”
• What is this longstanding problem that requires medical treatment?
• Where are you getting yourself this treatment from?
• Couldn’t you get medical treatment for it in India?
• Does that mean that neither the Bio Disc nor Chi Pendant could keep you healthy or treat your ailment?
More Lies of him EXPOSED..
Read the complete story here...
http://qnetexposed.com/michael-ferreira-...
Vande Matram
Gurupreet
Money Circulation Schemes are being promoted in the name of Direct marketing (DM), Multi-Level Marketing schemes (MLM), Network marketing (NWM), Referral Marketing, Introduction Marketing, Chain Marketing etc.
These schemes are nothing but camouflaged Money Circulation Schemes. In the front end the promoters display products and services at the back end it is nothing but Money Circulation Schemes banned under the provisions of Prize Chits and Money Circulation Schemes (Banning) Act 1978.
To divert the attention of the public as well as the Law Enforcement Agencies and to cover up their illegal activity of Money Circulation Schemes they display products and services.
Product is only a bait but end result is Money Circulation Scheme
Money Circulation Scheme means any scheme by whatever name called where in the person has to enroll into the scheme through a already enrolled member by subscribing to the scheme by paying initial kit / member ship amount and purchasing goods and services, where in by this the introducer of the enrolled member will get benefits (easy money) and the company which promotes the scheme earns quick money. The enrolled member again has to enroll further members to get his amount back and also the benefits. By this the promoter of the company by just promoting the scheme gets benefits and the person who enrolls at the initial of the scheme reaps the benefits.
By enrollment into such scheme one would be getting back the initial paid investment and keep gaining financially by enrolling new members. So also, the second set of enrollers keep multiplying and gain financially, fascinating every onlooker to get engrossed into such dubious money circulation schemes. Such a system of chain to work endlessly to provide profit to everyone concerned would ultimately breakdown at some stage, resulting the financial benefit to some who joined the scheme at initial stages (they will be none than the promoters of the scheme), resulting in big financial loss to those who joined at a later stage. When a person fails to get his required clients or non-viability of the scheme but blame it as one’s personal failure. The gullible people are taken unaware when the real failure. The gullible people are taken unaware when the real picture of the money circulation schemes emerges. By the time the people realize that they were taken for a ride and cheated, it would be too late.
The promoters to promote their schemes through high profile campaign by using film stars, Government servants, Doctors, Engineers and well known personalities of the society in their meetings which are conducted in star hotels, Kalyanamandapams etc., with lot of fan fare. Public should refrain from attending such meetings.
Promoters of the scheme float their companies with attractive names like “Wonder World Co.” “Miracle Co” “Japan Life India” "Amway” “Gold Quest” “Ayerveda Life” “Herb Life” “Happy Life Co” “Magic Co.” “Nice Co.” “Mega Co.”, “eBIZ” etc.
They give attractive names to the enrolled members depending upon their enrollment like with attractive and stylish titles as “Silver member, Gold member, Diamond members, Platinum member, so on and so forth. They also call them as “Master Distributor, Super Distributor, Double Super Distributor etc,”, etc
They also use attractive slogans like “ Earn in rupees or dollars. Work from home ” “ Work four hours and earn Rs., 50,000 per month ” “ U R the boss of your business, so enroll immediately” “ Earn up to Rs.35,000/- + Monthly by just working 2 hours at home ” “ Do u want to earn extra by sitting at Home? The contact us ” “ Your pathway to Heaven ” “ Enroll with us for Healthy and Wealth life ” “ Do u want to lose your weight, then contact us ” etc.
These companies win over confidence of the members (victims) and maintain their image as charitable and benevolent, by offering donations to charitable, social and service oriented institutions by attracting publications, photographs of VVIP’s donating cheques. Likewise, they boost their image in a corporate style and try to gain mileage.
A single company will launch many sister companies to fool public as if to show that they are big group of companies. A single company renamed many a time attracts people of different places, takes its chameleon stride through colorful gifts, brochures, under case of cheating. Likewise, all innovative methods are put action to successfully grow them well and make money for themselves causing irreparable financial loss to the general public and society.
These companies results in exploitation of personal influence of each and every distributor or his close relative. If a Superior officer or his ward involved in MLM, the subordinates are forced to become members in the chain. Likewise if a close friend comes with a scheme, one finds it difficult to say “No” and if all the above get cheated also but they refrain from complaining to Police only to save their relationship/friendship.
BEWARE…!
If your close relative, friend, neighbor or your superior or collogue approaches you with a product / service which involves enrollment and further enrollment of members and meetings at high profile places / kitty parties then it is nothing but Money Circulation Scheme banned under the provisions of Prize Chits and Money Circulation Schemes (Banning) Act 1978.
The appeal to the public to not to enroll themselves into Multi Level Marketing Companies, Money Circulation Schemes, Network Marketing Companies and other such companies and such schemes and get cheated.
MLM schemes destroy the well knitted social fabric of our Indian society and make your house as well as your neighborhood a market.
It is an appeal seeking your co-operation with the Investigating Agencies to curb such menace and nip it in the bud before it engulfs the gullible Public.
For the complete story with complete Documentary Evidence, Video and photographs please visit
http://qnetexposed.com/michael-ferreira-...
Please pass this information to any media people you all know and help us eradicate this SCAM from our nation.
Jai Hind...
Gurupreet
Says many have been duped, asks people not to invest in such schemes...
http://www.business-standard.com/article...
I am posting the link as published in Business Standard as many people asked for it...
The Deck of Cards crumbling..posted below some of the refund requests posted recently...these are people who have posted online...the number of people asking for refunds from their uplines will be in multiples of these...i am just posting a few comments here..
________________________________
Gopinadh Palem 1 day ago
how to cancel the membership and refund money
i raise crf and i got new crf no ofter what do please give info.i got products how to send what is the process, which address i send this products.
please tell how refund money.
this gopinadh
my ir id no : IN 097890
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Shobana T 1 day ago
Cancellation Order - Product was not purchased even though amount is deducted
Hi Team,
I wanted to cancel my IR number and the order purchased from my id, I request you to please process the refund money back to me. I have registered to Qnet. My Money has been deducted from my account. But the purchase was not done. I dont know what is happening. When I checked with the bank they said its a problem with Merchant. I dont want any kind of risk. So please confirm my cancellation order for the below id.
Order ID : DN33412572
MY IR Number : IN101768
Please make the necessary action immediately.
_________________________________
Shobana T 1 day ago
Cancellation Order - Product was not purchased even though amount is deducted
Hi Team,
I wanted to cancel my IR number and the order purchased from my id, I request you to please process the refund money back to me. I have registered to Qnet. My Money has been deducted from my account. But the purchase was not done. I dont know what is happening. When I checked with the bank they said its a problem with Merchant. I dont want any kind of risk. So please confirm my cancellation order for the below id.
Order ID : DN33412572
MY IR Number : IN101768
Please make the necessary action immediately .
________________________________
Jegadeesh kumarasami 1 day ago
Cancellation Order - Product was not purchased even though amount is deducted
Hi Team,
I wanted to cancel my IR number and the order purchased from my id, I request you to please process the refund money back to me. I have registered to Qnet. My Money has been deducted from my account. But the purchase was not done. I dont know what is happening. When I checked with the bank they said its a problem with Merchant. I dont want any kind of risk. So please confirm my cancellation order for the below id.
Order ID : DN33412572
MY IR Number : IN101768
Please make the necessary action immediately .
________________________________
Pruthvi hr 1 day ago
Cancellation of my IR ship and refund.
Hi Team,
I wanted to cancel my IR number and the order purchased from my id, I request you to please process the refund money back to me. I am not satisfied with the services. Please process my cancellation order for the below id's.
Order ID : DN33202907
MY IR Number : IN098504
Please make the necessary action immediately . Thanks!
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Shobana T 1 day ago
Membership and Order cancellations
Hi Team,
I wanted to cancel my IR number and request you to please process the refund money back to me. I am not satisfied with the services. Please process my cancellation order for the below id's.
Order ID : DN33024021
Order ID : DN33024151
MY IR Number : IN095733
Please make the necessary action immediately . Thanks!
________________________________
Best of Luck Q, the real trouble starts NOW. You guys made people to sign up their HOT signups after the "Mumbai Challenge" and now it has boomeranged on you back...man this is getting worse and i am loving every bit of it...enjoy
The esplanade court today heard the remand application of the state i.e EOW.
Mr. Abad Ponda appeared on behalf of all the eight arrested top leaders of QNET in mumbai.
After hearing the arguments of both the sides...the judge has had remanded all the eight arrested top leaders of QNET in mumbai in police custody till the 29th...
And more and more people from QNET are now coming forward and giving statements to the EOW mumbai and joining my case as a "witness"...QNET days are numbered now...the deck of cards is collapsing..
Friends,
QNET send this press release to all media houses all over India for clarification, since NO ONE cared to print it, I am releasing it with my comments added at end of each para which debunk this ridiculous press release…
23 November 2013
This statement is in response to various media reports within the last 24 hours wherein various aspects about the ongoing investigation on QNET in India have been incorrectly reported.
QNET expressly through this PRESS STATEMENT clarifies the following:
1. It has been alleged that QNET operates a “binary” compensation plan. This is not correct. QNET operates a “hybrid” compensation plan.
“Oh yea…HYBRID what??? One more mythological term like the non-existent HYDROUS WATER”
2. It has been alleged that the “binary” compensation plan is banned in India. This is not correct. There is no law that currently legislates this industry as-of-now. Furthermore there is no legislation banning the “binary” or any other compensation plan.
“Oh this is the best so QNET does not operate a BINARY plan in India..well what you been teaching your IR,s all these years then….crap like F2, F2 F2, F2 F2, F2…really QNET FAKE IT TILL YOU MAKE IT…aur kitna Fakenogey merey bhai:
3. It is alleged that 8 company executives have been arrested. This is not correct. The arrested individuals are QNET ‘Distributors’ or ‘Independent Representatives’ (IR’s - as they are referred to in QNET).
“yea yea DISOWN your own Grand Up Lines….this way QNET will try to get away by putting all blame on the IE,s…Come on QNETERS see how the company is disowning its own IR,s”
4. It has been alleged that the 8 arrested QNET IR’s have earned their commissions through “referrals” or “recruitment” pointing the business to be a ‘Pyramid Scheme’. This is not correct. QNET pays commissions on ‘SALE’ of products only. Numerous supporting documents have been already provided to the Mumbai EOW confirming this.
“If this is true then why has EOW arrested the TOP IR,s? If QNET is true why does it not initiate action against EOW..why has QUESTNET/QNET not challenged the chargesheet filed by Chennai CB CID”
5. It has been alleged that QNET draws “investment” from members. This is not correct. QNET is not in the business of "investments" but only conducts sales of products for which commissions are earned.
“One sting operation was aired by Bloomberg exposing how QNET is pitched as a investment scheme..more sting operations will be aired soon. exposing the ugly under belly of QNET and exposing all the TOP IR,s in India….come on guys join the investigation as a witness or you all will also be in police net or you will have to abscond from India like Dev Wadhwani,Arti Dighe and the grand father of all MICHAEL FERIERA.”
6. It has been alleged that only the IR’s on top make money. This is not correct. QNET provides equal opportunity to everybody to earn commissions.
“oh yea yea…only 0.03 % of QNETERS actually made some money worth mention. While more then 99% lost their initial money invested.”
I Hope QNETERS will at least wake up now and join the investigation and help the Government like other IR,s have done in Mumbai. It is your choice you want to be on the side of the law or against it. Regarding MONEY oh well you wont be making any of
it any ways because the company is shutting down ïŠ
Vande Matram
Gurupreet
http://www.the-v.net/isb-comrade-vc-mark...
http://www.the-v.net/isb-comrade-vc-mark...
Coming from a wealthy family, V Council (VC) Mark Ferreira had almost everything he could ask for. But, behind all the material things that money could buy him, his life then was sad and destination less, “I had a great life, money wise, but was arrogant and need[ed] to learn life’s lessons. “ VC Mark added.
One day, his father VC Michael Ferreira introduced him to the wonderful world of Network Marketing and showed him the best plan in the industry, and that plan was from QNet. “Initially [I] was very skeptical and was closed [minded]. Told him I would see [the] plan and when I saw the plan, my perception of the whole idea changed. I apologized to him [Michael] and began full time since Day 1.”
And as a full time International Representative for QNet, Mark has embraced the InService Brotherhood. The brotherhood has taught him the things he was lacking in order for him to live his best life, ever. And that was humility. “All [processes] are special in their own way. For me though, the “click clack” surpasses all and helps me focus and also confrontation without conflict. I use this daily.” Mark confesses.
When asked what his motto in life was, he had three things to say “1.Winning is a habit. 2. Live out of the glory of your imagination not your memory. 3. Live as though it is the last day of your life, but learn as if you are going to live forever.”
A true champion that he is, Mark used to be a Tennis ace competing around the world. Today, Mark has brought that characteristic with him, all thanks to his mentor, his tennis coach, Charles “Chuck” Boyle, “He was my hero and guide in my life who taught me life’s values from an early age. I pay tribute to his memory by living what he taught me 30 years ago, NOW. The values of Disciplined Though, Disciplined Action leads to Disciplined result through RAF. Responsibility, Accountability within a Framework.”
With his unparalleled spirit and drive, VC Mark Ferreira is surely taking this industry by storm and we have no doubt that he has his eyes set on the prize.
Great job Gurupreet !!!!
Today all the eight IR,s of QNET India were presented in court for seeking "police remand".
I argued in person and aided the state in its case against qnet while the IR,s were represented by Mr.Abad Ponda.
The case of the defense was that these are "innocent people" who do not have anything to do with what ever criminal activities of Questnet/Qnet etc.
I pointed out to the court that these people have been indulging in the act of propagating this illegal money circulation scheme in spite of having full knowledge that the whole business has been "charge sheeted" before also.
After hearing the arguments and looking at the gravity and the extent of the SCAM the honorable judge has remanded all the eight arrested accused to police custody.
The names of the people arrested and remanded to police custody are as under...
Vivek Kumar Singh
Shashi Bushanrameshwar Pandey
Namrata Pandey
Sabina Mathews
Vijay Mathews
Jagdev Singh Parmar
Rohit Chandra
Mahesh Bhansali
Here i would like to add that this should come as a LESSON to all those people who are still actively propagating and promoting this illegal scheme any where in India that this business is "charge sheeted" and to be part of it in any way is a criminal offence in our India.
Please do not think that since no FIR is registered in your state/city means nothing will happen.
I once again appeal to all IR,s to disown this SCAM and come forward and help the police by becoming a witness before you land up in trouble.
The TOP guys are all enjoying in DUBAI/Malaysia etc at the cost of money looted out of India, while the C category IR,s have been left behind to face the police action, why do you all want to be part of this CRIME?
Is MONEY THE ONLY THING IN LIFE?
Please note that becoming a member of this money circulation scheme itself is a CRIME as the whole business has been charge sheeted in India already.
Think and decided...join the investigation as a "witness" before you land up in police net.Become a "witness" and register your statement with the eow/mumbai and be safe then sorry...
Vande Matram
Gurupreet
Kindly see the following for your perusal. 8 more Arrests have happened in QNet. Michael Firrera the Billiards Champion and Padmabushan Holder is 80% holder of QNet India. Perhaps, you could shed some light:
Kindly see the following links:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/....
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/top-br....
http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mumbai/crime....
The Economic Offences Wing (EOW) of the Mumbai Police on Friday arrested eight top members of Vihaan Direct Selling (India) Pvt Ltd, a franchise of Hong Kong-based company Qnet, that was allegedly indulging in a binary scheme — one where existing members are required to bring in more members
Padmashree awardee and billiards champion Michael Ferreira is an 80 per cent shareholder in this company.
The EOW is yet to decide if Ferreira should be called in for questioning. He has been claiming that he was only a shareholder and had no idea about the company’s activities, officials said.
“Qnet has been trying to operate in India under various names for several years but has always been getting into trouble with the law. For the last two years, it has been operating through Vihaan, its master franchise based in Bangalore. It has, till date, made Rs 425 crore through its activities, which include selling of cosmetic and other products as well as attracting as many members as possible,” said Rajvardhan Sinha, Additional Commissioner of Police, EOW.
“We had earlier raided its offices and arrested their regional leader Manjunath Hegde. On Friday, we have arrested eight top level members from various places in Mumbai,” added Sinha.
According to officials of the EOW, Vihaan Direct Selling had been under the scanner since April this year after one Gurpreet Singh complained to the agency alleging that the company had cheated his wife to the tune of Rs 31,500. Two members of the company had allegedly convinced his wife to become a member of the company and had taken the amount as membership fee. The EOW found that the company had attracted over 90,000 people as its members.
“Such kind of binary scheme is banned in India under the Prize Chitfund and Money Circulation Schemes (Banning) Act,” said Sinha.
The arrested members allegedly made between Rs 40 lakh to Rs 2.5 crore through Vihaan. The agency has already frozen around Rs 100 crore of the company’s members in various bank accounts till now.
Binary scheme
*The arrested members allegedly made between Rs 40 lakh to Rs 2.5 crore through Vihaan
* The EOW
Later these QNETERS tried to do a "system" in Islam Gymkhana and had to cancel that also.
It is said that the third time these people placed advertisements in newspapers of mumbai to invite people into investing into a "Business Opportunity" and were holding that meeting in hall in dadar-west.
It is being said that today morning crime branch officials raided several residential places of QNET leaders all over mumbai and the following were detained/arrested.
Vivek Kumar Singh
Shashi Bushanrameshwar Pandey
Namrata Pandey
Sabina Mathews
Vijay Mathews
Jagdev Singh Parmar
Rohit Chandra
Mahesh Bhansali
All the above people have shared the "proceeds of crime" and huge amounts of money had been transferred into their bank accounts under the guise of "commissions paid". Sources say these huge amounts of money has been raised by running a money circulation scheme in India under the guise of "ecommerce" by QNET India.
It is now upto the rest of QNET IR,s to decide whether they want to continue to be part of this crime of "money circulation scheme" or they want to join the investigation and help the police and become "Government Aprovers".
It is your choice you want to become a accused in this crime, because some day some one will surely report you, it is better to give up this "white collared crime" now itself, then land into trouble later.
I appeal to you all IR,s to give this anti national activity once again, Please do not forget this is not happening the first time. Previously also in chennai assets,properties,cars, bank accounts etc of all TOP IR,s and team leaders were sealed by chennai CID.
then they laugh at you,
then they fight you,
then you win.
Mahatma Gandhi
My fight is at stage three now, they are "fighting" me after having ignored & ridiculed me...
Good Luck "Q"...
Choice is yours to beleive after seeing & speaking to testimonies or Just THINKING You are the Greatest on this planet...
Suggest you to attend one of the training & demo sessions which will be happening soon ..... Keep waiting until then ...
Trying to divert minds ......
see you are coming up with one one product stories ... trying to prove yourself ..... Why ?? .. even after doing your detailed study on these products you are emphasising on your own stories & putting the negative thoughts in mind.....
For benefit of those who want to know more about the Biodisc read it from the official website
http://www.amezcua.com/
International Medical Lab Certifications (i m sure you will agree atleast they are not purchased & published)
http://www.amezcua.com/Certifications.ht....
Testimonials
http://www.amezcua.com/Testimonials.html
COUPLE WITH DIFFICULTY CONCEIVING…. HAVE BABY AFTER USING BIO DISC...
Earlier today, a couple from Mumbai, with much love and anticipation, welcomed a healthy little bundle of joy into the world.
Theirs is a story of ups and downs, having tried for the last 15 years to conceive a baby of their own. They had given up all hope and were about to call it quits, both in the bedroom as well as in the relationship, when out of the blue the husband received a phone call from an old childhood buddy of his who was in town, visiting.
Please read the complete story on http://qnetexposed.com/couple-with-diffi...
Hope you will like it :)
Trying to divert minds ......
see you are coming up with one one product stories ... trying to prove yourself ..... Why ?? .. even after doing your detailed study on these products you are emphasising on your own stories & putting the negative thoughts in mind.....
For benefit of those who want to know more about the Biodisc read it from the official website
http://www.amezcua.com/
International Medical Lab Certifications (i m sure you will agree atleast they are not purchased & published)
http://www.amezcua.com/Certifications.ht...
Testimonials
http://www.amezcua.com/Testimonials.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzZ2TtF5x...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zUtjQ8-P...
search in youtube for more testimonies if you really wanna see more
http://www.qnet.net/en/products/energy/a...
Amezcua 2012 by QNET Master Collection
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGbvrPkVs...
Further more do check out What the real businessmen/ industry people think about Qnet and it's so called "business"
http://www.quora.com/What-is-the-Busines...
Public place so say whatever you like with any unknown name you like ...
So now theres a Questionable Man also arrived ....
Good baba ... u guys just lucky due to QNET following Gandhian policy & over that you guys thinking they are wrong so they are silent or out of Country now..
Britishers also thought the same about bapu in his simple dhoti....
What Hard Earned Money are you speaking about ??
Where is the Hard Earned Money going i'll help you understand ....
1) Buying a 1 Litre Drinking Water bottle (which is not even mineral water) at Rs. 15 at the railway stn & the same bottle at Rs.18 when normal & Rs. 20 if taken chilled.
Why does the poor man shell out such high amount against the production cost of Just 3-5 Rs. ???
2) Eating chocolates advertised by people who cannot even touch those chocolates in life due to the DIABETIS issues but getting paid in Crores ..... Who pays for this ??
3) Buying vegetables worth 30-40 Rs/Kg @ Rs. 80 / Kg ....
Who pays for this middle cost of Rs 40 / Kg ??
Sab Commodity exchange ka kamaal ?
Surprising that it is played by ppl who dont even know what is Toor Dal or Masoor Dal but play on it with huge amounts & earn big chunks ?
Who suffers actually ?
Poor Farmers starving in villages & here traders minting bungalows & lavish lifestyles..... Kiska khoon pasina Laga aur Kisne Enjoy kiya ?
4) Entering share market, getting lurred up & pulling away millions daily from the poor ppl accounts ?
Whats that ..... ?
5) Inflations are at all time high ..... Salaries being downsized or at the same level for past 2-3 years now.... I am sure the bizman who have quoted about QNET are the same who are doing this to the poor employees..... showing no biz ... no growth .. but if you see the no. of foreign car sales have shot up in India like anything .....
If economy is down where are these expensive cars coming from ....
Even today there are families which get shaken up for 2-3 Years if they at all buy a BIKE ..... Buying a Nano or a Swift is also not so easy for the common middle class today ...
Owning a house is a dream for many for past few years & will remain a dream with the current situations ..... Do you think these 9-5 ppl ever have the chance to buy n own their own 2-3 BHK apts without BANK help which also you are aware of the market scenario...
Aur ek baar Loan Liya fir toh Chakkar hi Alag hai ..... Go & see how people have gone bankrupt after taking Loans ....
Very few people actually survive over this & escape this trap in 10-15 Years ....
After all this, Still you feel a common person does not need to give himself a chance to rise up & start his own business....
Urge you to see the Biz plan yourself first & then write what you feel was unethical during the presentation .....
Just hyping it for no reason & using your tremendous potential for wrong information passing & misguiding is not good.
Qnet is nothing but a simple pyramid scheme. You stack people under you on your left and right. This kind of a business has been banned in many economies including India. Eow is already on their tail and it's only a matter of time the company is kicked out like 2 times before (Goldquest and Questnet). But this time it will be for good.
Thanks for saying it for self that Leaders are at Dubai, do you think they are gone on vacations there ... No, But to expand biz as this is the max bonanza benefit season & this has been normal all throughout the year.... which i think you are trying to hype up showing that they have ran away .
All will be back soon & what freezing of accounts are you talking about, Guess you dont even know QNET Income is TDS Deducted as per RBI rules ie. every IR pays Taxes before getting their commission in hand/account. Guess you must try & work a little & see for yourself as a proof of getting Tax deducted income.
Do not know from when RBI or Income tax of India has started collecting Tax from Scam company ? Isn't it ?
Your point of Chennai Challenge faced by QNET & the fact of QNET still running successfully today shows that QNET has stood firm even at the most difficult times. This is only because of the responsibility QNET carries for each Indian IR.
Again urge you to please use your deep knowledge exploring habit for searching the right information & then speak up... for welfare of man kind.
I am sure you do come across the good & genuine facts also which you are not even trying to appreciate about. Wish you had atleast one good pointer mentioned in your posts would have atleast shown your genuineness.
The fact of myself being the same named is really a shame for me at the moment. Calling Fake will not make it Fake,like your posts or opinions.
Thinking of Destroying is Next to Evil.
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Truth is final & which will remain eternal always ......
Read this & many more success stories soon to come to you....
https://http://www.billionhearts.net/Home/Inspirations
A video msg for New comers & the favorite of all -Vcon
watch this for SURE ! ! !
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/37340579
1. The RBI does not say deduct TDS in the first place. It is the Income Tax Dept. It is written as I-T and not IT (information technology). This clarification is for people like you who cant think beyond VCon.
2. Kindly share the account details from where the TDS was deducted, so that we can verify if this was deposited in the I-T accounts or not. No idea, if your company is doing the Kingfisher act of deducting money for TDS and not depositing the same. ;-)
3. Again RBI does not collect taxes.
4. Chennai challenge...forced your company (GoldQuest/QuestNet) to vanish for some time before reappearing with new name (QNet).
So in short, verify your own knowledge before giving 'gyan' to others. And get well soon, I mean, if possible ;-)
For the record when the "chennai challenge" took place chennai police not only sealed bank accounts but also homes, property, cars etc bought using "money from crime proceeds" i.e money earned as "commission in QUESTNET BUSINESS"
History will repeat it self..law will takes it course...next assets purchased out of commission earned will be sealed?
Uff....kya mai bhi
Thanks for saying it for self that Leaders are at Dubai, do you think they are gone on vacations there ... No, But to expand biz as this is the max bonanza benefit season & this has been normal all throughout the year.... which i think you are trying to hype up showing that they have ran away .
All will be back soon & what freezing of accounts are you talking about, Guess you dont even know QNET Income is TDS Deducted as per RBI rules ie. every IR pays Taxes before getting their commission in hand/account. Guess you must try & work a little & see for yourself as a proof of getting Tax deducted income.
Do not know from when RBI or Income tax of India has started collecting Tax from Scam company ? Isn't it ?
Your point of Chennai Challenge faced by QNET & the fact of QNET still running successfully today shows that QNET has stood firm even at the most difficult times. This is only because of the responsibility QNET carries for each Indian IR.
Again urge you to please use your deep knowledge exploring habit for searching the right information & then speak up... for welfare of man kind.
I am sure you do come across the good & genuine facts also which you are not even trying to appreciate about. Wish you had atleast one good pointer mentioned in your posts would have atleast shown your genuineness.
The fact of myself being the same named is really a shame for me at the moment. Calling Fake will not make it Fake,like your posts or opinions.
Thinking of Destroying is Next to Evil.
==========================
Truth is final & which will remain eternal always ......
Read this & many more success stories soon to come to you....
https://http://www.billionhearts.net/Home/Inspirations
A video msg for New comers & the favorite of all -Vcon
watch this for SURE ! ! !
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/37340579
EXPOSING one more SHAM product of QNET called QVI holidays package. Whenever you join QVI there appears terms and conditions page, please read it carefully and you will understand how it is a SHAM and BOGUS product which more than 90% of people joining will never be able to use. We have made a small interpretation of what we think about the terms and conditions in this blog, Please see and comment.
http://qnetexposed.com/a-look-at-qvis-te...
Please help us and spread the word of this SCAM all over.
Some other interesting NEWS articles to read.
MID DAY news paper Article on QNET, Money Laundering and victims speak.
http://www.mid-day.com/news/2013/sep/030...
Times of India News article on arrest of TOP IR of QNET in Mumbai.
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes....
Times of India News article on registration of police case FIR against QNET.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/busin...
Times of India News article on registration of police case FIR against QNET.
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes....
Times of India News article on registration of police case FIR against QNET.
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes....
Business Standard news paper article on BENAMI share holders of QNET/Vihaan
http://www.business-standard.com/article...
Business Standard news papers Article on EOW/Mumbai Police action against QNET.
http://www.business-standard.com/article...
Business Standard news papers Article “Curios case of QNET”
http://smartinvestor.business-standard.c...
Article on Links of Mr.Suresh Thimri,s company Transview with Vihaan
http://www.moneylife.in/article/qnet-the...
Money Life news article how so called CEO of QNET INDIA denied his relations QNET and others.
http://www.moneylife.in/article/qnet-whe...
Money Life news article on registeration of police case FIR against QNET
http://www.moneylife.in/article/qnet-mum...
Money Life news article on FREEZING of bank accounts of QNET and other allied companies.
http://www.moneylife.in/article/qnet-six...
Money Life news article on FREEZING of bank accounts of QNET and other allied companies.
http://www.moneylife.in/article/qnet-eow...
Very interesting ONLINE article regarding the business model of QNET
http://www.quora.com/What-is-the-Busines...
http://www.quora.com/Multi-Level-Marketi...
Truth will remain Truth only..
Cannot be changed by excitement or anger.
Top 5 things I hate about Qnet:
I actually wrote this post while listening to a Qnet presentation to one of my colleagues at work … I hope non of the Qnet people will take it personal as many of them do
1. How materialistic it transforms people . with Qnet you only care about the $$$
2. No one really cares about the products they are selling .. even the guy who was doing the presentation next to me, he didn’t really know much about the products. the guy allocated around 10% of the time talking about the products and the rest talking about gaining amazing profit from qnet with all the financial independence it provides
3. Mind trick games the IRs play during the presentations ( am doing this for you not for me , i only invite people who are willing to work not anyone ,.....)
4. After you enter Qnet .. you see everyone(Family, Friend , someone u barely know) as a potential customer or victim
5. Trying to associate Qnet to any big organization or event … before that there was Microsoft which didn’t go any further than installing their web servers then they stopped mentioning it .. today I heard the guy saying that they are the official sponsor of "Formula 1" !!! … I googled it and it turned out they are sponsors for the Virgin racing Team ... it just shows how desperately they seek some credibility
Qnet or any other "network marketing" thing (because it is not a job) is made for the losers in life. With all dissrespect, anybody who joins any of those crap company's is a lame loser. Those presenters just throw big "emotion driving" words like: Faith, Believe, Success, Dream...and use quotes from people who are REALY difference makers in the world (none of which are Qneters of course!) And they use those quotes or words to manipulate the crowd.
I am really sad the world has become so materialistic and all people care about is money....or what u can achieve with paper (that is money)!
Fulfill your dreams by joining Qnet! How can people live with themselves by selling "nothing" to people and claim that it will change ur life? That's just wrong! Don't be a slave to money! Use ur brain and don't take the "seemingly easy" way to achieve ur pathetic dreams!
Work hard, study hard, train hard, dream of doing something that will help u, ur community and humanity! Don't dream of making X amount of money!
At the end of the day, its ur choice. U choose if u want to live ur life being a slave for money, always look for the easy way out, don't have any humane values in life and stop using ur brain for the rest of ur life just to achieve ur "materialistic" dreams, then that's ur choice....use ur brain, don't let people use/abuse yours.
I hope this thing collapses soon. Its nothing but mind games for laundering your money away. For losers who are part of Qnet I despise you and hope you realize what an idiot you have been after Qnet collapses.
http://betello.blogspot.in/2011/06/top-5...
@ FAKE Gurpreet, well the hi-fi lawyers of QNET have had the taste of my COURAGE in courts(r u one of them?)
Regarding FORB@$ article yes it is a perfect example of “Yellow Journalism” and I have evidence to prove it, but then that is NOT MY DAMN CASE, My case against QNET is that of “Operating a money circulation scheme in India” and they have already been CHARGE SHEETED before for the same and as per Government records Vijay Easwaran is a ABSCONDING ACCUSED ;) (Oh god how I love to use that word a ABSCONDING ACCUSED for Vijay Easwaran).
FORB@$ is above the crime branch/madras high court and supreme court of India where QNET/QUESTNET has lost everything? Yea yea …
Oh yes WHOIS IS VIJAY EASWARAN…let me answer that for u again….
He is an ABSCONDING ACCUSED and wanted in INDIA for running “money circulation scheme” and cheating thousands of people in India. He is a WHITE COLLARED CRIMINAL who has A BRAIN for devising SCAMS and re-packaging the same OLD SHIT again and again, if he is so RIGHT, why does he not comes to India and face the trials..why is he ABSCODING?. He is just a DAMN CHEATER NOTHING ELSE.
At one hand there is Sucheta Dalal who has been awarded “Padma Shree” for exposing scams like HARSHAD MEHTA etc and other HAND you have the ABSCONDING ACCUSED VIJAY EASWARAN…wanted for CHEATING AND 420 in India…YES readers are smart enough and they know the FACTS and that’s the reason QNET is in this MESS now, what I am doing is getting support because everyone knows what a BIG CHEAT ABSCONDING ACCUSED VIJAY EASWARAN is.
Mr. FAKE Gurpreet you THINK you have the BIRTH RIGHT TO COME HERE AND ASK QUESTIONS? How come you have not answered a single of my question then…PROVE it your real name is “Gurpreet” share your IR code and let everyone know you are real or as we all know…you are a FAKE like QNET and its BIG CHEAT ABSCONDING ACCUSED VIJAY EASWARAN is.
Answer my question and I will let you know “how many lives I have touched”. I am not a SCAMSTER like you guys and that BIG CHEAT ABSCONDING ACCUSED VIJAY EASWARAN is.
Hum Desh Sevak hain…Desh kae gaddar nahi like U guys…U will never understand the only thing you guys can do is…F2, Find two bakras..find veeru and jai..but for HOW LONG…the company is winding up and will soon vanish in a few days..then what will you do?
You all will be left back to face criminal cases like it happened in CHENNAI before.. your properties, cars etc will be seized and frozen by police authorities , you all will be added as ACCUSED and the only option you all will have will be to face trial as a ACCUSED or turn GOVERNMENT APPROVER.
What I am stating here is not something new, it has happened before and history is just repeating it self…now is the time for the IR,s to decide..they want to be called as ACCUSED or they should stop propagating this SCAM further and join in the investigation and help the law enforcement agencies and turn in GOVERNMENT APPROVER before they are named as accused in police cases.
Now Absconding Accused Vijay Easwaran disowns "QNET INDIA"
These are experts taken from the interview of Absconding Accused Vijay Easwaran
“QNET operates in India through a Franchise company hence Absconding Accused Vijay Easwaran has no involvement in it, he is neither a director nor a shareholder of Qnet India.
He further threatened to seriously think of Pulling out of INDIA.”
BOSS, you are talking of pulling out? YOU and YOUR SCAM will be KICKED out of my nation INDIA wait and see and this will not be the FIRST TIME that you are KICKED at your FAT A$$ and thrown out, will follow your SHAM company and expose it till you call it QUITS, the sooner you PULL OUT the better warna you know that saying “Badey Beaabroo ho kar terey dar sae nikley”
So Mr. Absconding Accused Vijay Easwaran if you have a BRAIN to think of new new SCAMS there are people who can work together to EXPOSE your SCAMS...r u ready for it now….hahaha
QNET QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS !!
In my answers, I will try and explain whatever little I know about Qnet. I have a close friend having been tricked into becoming a member and also got know a few other people. Since I was very curious about the Qnet Scam I researched and got my answers. Its a pyramid scheme in the disguise of an MLM business model.
Q1. What is the Business of Qnet?
The business of Qnet is to sell the epic dream of 'Work for a couple of years and earn forever, doing nothing'. Needless to say, there are millions of people across the world, who buy into this dream.
To become a Qnet member you have to buy products between INR 40K -120K. Qnet sells its products at crazy margins, for eg my friend bought their bestselling product A Healing Biodisc 2for INR 22,000. In reality, it is just a 3 Inch glass disc that can be procured from China for nothing more than INR 100.
The gross margin is whopping 21900%.
Q2. What is the greatness in products that Qnet sells?
The greatness of a Qnet product is that it contains magic. Or atleast a promise of magic.
And most magic is perceived rather than reality. How do you know if a health shake you just drank increased your immunity or not. The Qnet members who buy these products believe in them because THEY WANT to believe in them.
I will give you a few examples. The top 3 categories for Qnet are Energy, Nutrition and Personal Care.
A Qnet biodisc for INR 22K is supposed you make you feel fresh. There is no measurable/ visible effect of freshness. You might as well buy a Tibetan ring for INR 250 that also claims to make you feel fresh.
Similarly Qnet's Nutriplus protein powder costs INR 4000 and improves immunity and builds Muscle. But one can also buy a horlicks for the same and it costs only 150 bucks.
You get the drift.
Q3. Who makes these products that Qnet sells and what is the relationship of Qnet the Company and the manufacturers? Is it Vendor - Principal, Self Manufactured or a combination of Both?
It’s a combination of both.
In my discussions with one of the estranged senior member I got to know that most of their products are manufactured or sourced from China. A few products are sourced from other countries as well.
For their travel package product they have a couple of self owned resorts in Thailand.
Q4. What margins are possible to be earned on such products? Answer with world examples of similar industries and quote some publicly available data.
Product level gross margins are upwards of 10000% in most products.
At a company level the cost structure looks like follows
As a percentage of revenues, 20% are operating expenses. MLM companies are heavy on marketing and sponsorships, international and local seminar with celebrities, promotions, IT, Trainings etc. For eg Qnet is associated with F1, Donates to Unesco, Is the sponsor of Indian Davios cup team etc.
40% is distributed as commissions between the 'Upchain' members. All those people who have led to this member are paid. People higher in the chain get paid less per transaction but will have higher cumulative earnings and vice versa. Qnet follows a MLM model known as Binary Tree Structure. The commission models can be disguised in many forms but broadly the payouts remain the same.
Remaining 40% is operating profit of the company (Qnet)
These percentages (20:40:40) differ for different companies. Qnet chooses to spend more money on marketing and promotions to increase its member network. With time it is becoming increasingly difficult for MLM companies to make members. A decade back a large MLM company could have done with (10:30:60) model.
ROIs, ofcourse are crazy since this business is not capital intensive. Its scam intensive :)
I am surprised on how media and government are quiet on such large scale scams.
The product level margins are as follows
A Biodisc2 Costs, INR 100 and selss for INR 22,000
A Nutriplus costs INR 4000, comparable Horlicks costs INR 150
Qnet will debate that their product has some magic that horlicks does not have , but it’s just sales talk.
Q5. How can these margins be remunerative by sharing across multiple levels of people? If margins are finite, how can sharing be infinite? (It is possible
A successful binary tree model MLM company can reach 1 million members in 24-28 layers and 10 million members in 30-34 layers.
If a company has say 10 million members, the commission from a new transaction will be divided between 30-40 members in the Upline. Its infinite only in theory.The commission models can be disguised in many forms but broadly the payouts remain the same
Before starting Qnet promoters used to run a company called Goldquest , which is a known scam and is now banned in many countries. Most MLM companies have a shelf life of 5-10 years. Once the pace of signing up new members becomes really slow, the promoters will start a new company. They can either wind up the current company or let it linger on for sometime.
After winding up, promoters usually restart with a new product and new name. Their top distributors move with top 3-5 layers of downline to the new company. This is exactly what has happened with Glodquest promoters started Qnet.
I also want to touch upon the phenomenon of Qnet members trying to make a new member. We all have been approached by some friend/ relative for some MLM company or the other. An active MLM member does not look at his relationships as relatives and friends, he only starts looking at them as downlines. He also manages to convince a few only to realise a few months/ years later that he has lost/ strained that valuable relationship.A newbie however is different, he is still trying to understand the people and business and once he realises the truth drops out of the chain. 50% of the MLM members become inactive in the first year itself.
The members do not themselves believe that they are doing something wrong because of 2 reasons. Firstly they don’t know that they are part of larger scam and take it to be genuine business proposition. Secondly even if they know about the scam they don’t mind since they see a few senior members making a lot of money. The senior members are ‘demi god’ figures in the network. They are idolised and spoken about in every conference. What members fail to realise is that big money is only made by people who are way higher up in the chain and this money will keep flowing in to them only for a few years till that scam survives. After a few years these distributors will move along with their key team to another company and start rebuilding their downlines.
So the mantra is that if someone really wants to make money from the MLM scam, they need to ensure that they are early members of the chain in their country, Milk the cow and then move on to the next new company and product.
This can only be avoided by an active media and government. MLM is highly regulated in western countries and hence you will see that most fraud MLM companies are active in Asia/ MENA region.
6. Why can’t Qnet sell its great products (with its great margins like Walmart) and become the biggest retailer in the world?
Please refer answer 2.
There is no real need for these products, they are bought not for their benefits but to as a ticket to the evil /epic dream.
Ans 7) In the disguise of empowering people, Qnet only fools them. Even the acts of good faith are done to gain publicity.
Ans 8) In last decade or two network marketing has become an evil word, the mention of the same itself will make people run away. The Qnet members are trained not to give any indication of the business early on to a prospect. The real sales pitch only comes from a senior member in a face to face meeting.
Ans 9) Most fraud MLM companies sell dubious products at obscene prices. These products can only be sold by push that comes naturally in Pester Marketing. Many members buy a product simple because someone who is dear to them has harassed them enough to buy it. These members are not even looking at this buying to become a part of the network. The only other people who buy these product for logical reasons are members looking for further income.
Ans 10) I think his article answers your question Page onhttp://www.howstuffworks.com/pyramid-sch....
Author Supreet Singh
WAKE UP AND SMELL THE SHIT LA!!
Mr Thimiri, the so-called CEO of the controversial MLM, owns registered trademark of QNet in India. He also admitted before the High Court that his company Transview imports and manufactures products for selling to Vihaan Direct, the official franchisee of QNet in India
The case of QNet, the Hong Kong-based controversial multi-level marketing (MLM) operator is taking new twists every day even as all top executives of the company in India decided to stay hidden citing a case filed with economics offences wing (EOW) of Mumbai police.
Interestingly, Suresh Thimiri, who is often touted as QNet India's chief executive and had denied any relationship with QNet or any of its representatives, owns the 'QNet' trademark in India through his company Transview Enterprises Pvt Ltd! See the images below obtained from Trade Marks Registry. Mr Thimiri's company has filed class 42 application for 'QNet' trademark in India.
As Moneylife reported, Mr Thimiri, in his anticipatory bail application filed on 19 August 2013, before additional session Judge DA Dholkia had said, "The applicant (Thimiri) does not hold any sort of relation neither with the Company (QNet) nor its representative (including Eswaran and Vihaan Direct Selling India Pvt Ltd) against whom the Complainthas been lodged by the respondents (Gurupreet Singh Anand) in Oshiwara Police Station." (See image below)
Transview Enterprises is an associate company of Vihaan Direct Selling that handles QNet's MLM operations in India since 14 April 2012. Before that QNet's Indian operations were controlled by QuestNet Enterprises (India) Pvt Ltd, a company registered at Chennai. QuestNet Enterprises was operating QNEI eStore, a platform from where IRs, which is how the investor-dealers of QNet are described, could place orders or buy products and also enrol new recruits. After launching Vihaan, the company asked all its old IRs to mandatorily register under the new business name in order to receive their commissions. Vihaan is a direct selling agent of QNet and had done large financial transactions with Mr Thimiri's company Transview. This made the EOW to freeze Transview's bank accounts in ING Vyasa Bank at Bengaluru.
Mr Thimiri, who in his anticipatory bail application had denied any relations with QNet and its representative, has ratified deals between Vihaan Direct Selling and his company, Transview Enterprise.
In his application before the Bombay High Court to defreeze bank accounts of Transview Enterprise, Mr Thimiri said, "The applicant (Mr Thimiri, director of Transview) is in the business of importing and manufacturing products such as Bio Discs, Chi Pendants, Nutriplus, Homepure, watches and various other products and sells the same to M/s Vihaan Direct Selling India Pvt Ltd."
These revelations may come as shocker to few die-hard independent representatives (IRs) of QNet as they strongly believe that all QNet products are imported! From where? Only the company knew about, as it is kept hidden from public view. Anyway, now with Mr Thimiri's clarification about 'manufacturing' of QNet products, these IRs will know the truth.
After perusing both the applications filed by Mr Thimiri before Courts, here are some facts...
1. Mr Thimiri accepted that Transview does not have any relations with Vihaan Direct Selling except supplier-purchaser relations.
2. Mr Thimiri's Transview Enterprise owns the QNet trademark (used exclusively by Vihaan) in India.
3. Vihaan Direct Selling is QNet Ltd's franchisee that carries the QNet brand name in India. After launching Vihaan, the company asked all its old IRs to mandatorily register under the new business name in order to receive their commissions.
4. Mr Thimiri has been named as accused in the report submitted by the EOW before the Sessions Court, Mumbai. It states: “The accused Suresh Thimiri has played active role in running the Money Circulation Scheme under the guise of investment opportunity and the income earned by the participants is based on enrolment of new members into the scheme.”
While Mr Thimiri is trying very hard to de-link himself from the probe, his own submissions are revealing truth. Vihaan Direct Selling carries 'QNet' brand in India that is registered trademark of Transview Enterprise of Mr Thimiri. The submission made by Mr Thimiri before the Courts only underline his links with QNet in India.
Another interesting aspect in the whole episode is all top officials (?) of QNet India do not want to reveal their identity and remain hidden. We repeatedly sent emails to the company's official PR agency and also some officials from its parent QI group.
We asked "Can you please tell us about Mr Suresh Thimiri, who is often labelled as India CEO of QNet on QNetIndia's Facebook page. Is Mr Thimiri the CEO of QNet in India? If not, then who heads QNet in India and who are the top management people? In addition, we would like to know the relations, if any, between QNet, Vihaan Direct Selling India Pvt Ltd and Transview Enterprises Pvt Ltd."
Here is the reply we received from the PR agency of QNet India...
"This is apropos our telecon now a while back and in furtherance to our earlier discussion which took place on the 30 August 2013 with regards to our client QNET, referred by you in your email. On your request, we reached out to our client again today, but they were of the same considered view that since the matter is still sub-judice, they would not like to give any comments for the time being. We will be happy to reach out to you should our client decide to make any statement to the media in the future."
To read the complete story with images please click this link
http://www.moneylife.in/article/qnet-the...
@Gurpreet first of all SHAME on you for faking my name on this BLOG, is that the best you could manage to do? You are as FAKE as your FAKE & SCAM Company…now I will answer your stupid propaganda…
The Dubai TV video you posted is raw footage and when I see the whole video it seems it was never BROADCAST it is a private video or at best a video shot at the EVENT but NEVER broadcast as there are no news anchors, no Tv Logos nothing….it just a RAW footage shot at the event and posted by you all…as FAKE as your FAKE COMPANY…
Here are the real FACTS about the SCAM called QNET…
The Anti QNET project…
A very well researched video documentary on how QNET spoils relations, families and economies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcQkqOsAp...
Discussion on Pyramid Scheme and its devastating financial carnage in Iran.
Press TV-Iran Today-The Pyramidal Mirage -07-16-2010(Part1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nInPFJIbv...
Press TV-Iran Today-The Pyramidal Mirage -07-16-2010(Part2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnBbHv9WL...
Press TV-Iran Today-The Pyramidal Mirage -07-16-2010(Part3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ3ybzhSk...
Now the same SCAM is being repeated in India…I will fight it the BEST I can…
Raise The Bar Higher is the same SHIT REPACKAGED, that’s what you SCAM company does year after year…REPACKAGE THE SAME SHIT !!
Oh YES, we love blasting the WE-Con, the yearly events to fool and brain wash poor people from all over the world, while QNET cons people by selling them No-Value goods, the V Network CONS them by selling tickets to the stupid WE-Cons.
Diamonds AKA(also known as) Cheaters, the people who have cheated their own and near dear.
ISB oh yea yea yea….one more clone of the WE-Con train more bakras to cheat others..
Putting up advertisements in a football match makes QNET LEGIT? In the first place your company claims to be a DIRECT SELLING COMPANY.. DIRECT SELLING COMPANY are supposed to save money because they do not advertise and that’s what you tell to others at the time of prospecting…so yes your lies are exposed again…what CRAP..if you spend HEAVILY of advertising, have brand ambassadors how does that make you a DIRECT SELLING COMPANY?
YES WAKE UP AND SMELL THE SHIT!
Bio Shit (oops I meant Disc) Mallo aur KAAM par Lago…jakey F2 & Rule 3 Karo !!
YES we have Bhagat Singh in our heart and souls not unlike TRAITORS like you, TUM LOGON KO THO APNA NAAM TAK NAHI PATA…DADDY KA PATA HAI? YA BARISTA & CCD PAR PAIDA HUWEY THIE?
Dusrey ki salary gintey ho..apna BOLO? You all are failures in real life who could not excel in job or business and hence take up this cheating business called QNET to make a QUICK BUCK by cheating on your own near and dear!!
Yes GO SELL DREAMS and cheat people…I am a successful Entrepreneur myself without cheating and scamming any one like you…
Mummy ko jakey apna asli naam puch lena…or I will assume u are someone who does not have a real name….and yea…ask for your father’s name also…
Modus Operandi of Qnet -
You will get a call from a friend / Colleague whose not so close / distant for years...informal chat converted to business proposal .
The person who's being called is a " Prospect " which needs to be converted to " Plan ". The word Plan depicts it al l- it's planned to dupe you !!!
Normal conversation for a business invitation - " I am indulged in an International Business for financial freedom ( Kitane Din Naukri karta ..?? for how long will serve others ?? etc etc) .We are into expansion phase, one of my senior business partner from.... place will be visiting in this regards by tomorrow / day after tomm.
Can i book an appointment with him / her ?? But you must be punctual as time of seniors is very precious ( Bullshit..these crooks are lying there day n nite ).
Pls bring ur CV also as proper interview will be conducted , if u get selected u'll be offered this Opportunity..no promises."
Once the appointment fixed u'll be called at Coffee shops like CCD /Barista etc etc to impose on Freedom from office envrionment ( fact is qnet does not have place to sit anywhere) . Once u reach to place 2-3 so called seniors will sit along with u ( as taught by seniors when a plan arrives ratio of Plan & IRs should always be +1 i.e. if plan is single person then atleast 2 IRS should b present , if 2 persons attending the plan IR strngth should be more than 2 ...this is to create psychological pressure / stress on "Plan" )
Before conversation starts ur dear friend will "edify" the senior which elaborates on how rich he/she in professional career with handsome experience of years in Corporate world etc etc. Senior business partner starts with own well crafted story which which throw light on Banking/ Insurance/Telecom/media world scenario 7 then his own Organisation wherein his Boss / Colleagues lost their jobs with tagline ..though i was secure i've started looking for an opportunity.Then the story goes roller coaster way how he /she introduced in this business passing thru below questionaire -
1,Whether u r willing to Learn - very popular example qouted will be of Sachin Tendulakar palying Golf after his retirement
2.Time - 20 hrs a week
3.Constraint about any specific Industry
4.Investment - 3-7 lacs - One time , no recurring charges
The entire conversation is well drafted, rehearsed & executed...result u may be convinced to join it..
But there won't be any informtion imparted untill u commit to join with handsome money..
Robbert Kiyosaki's 4 Quadrant theory...details of Company..it's subdiaries.e-commerce way of business...DOT.com balloon bursts..etc.
Assurance of money back in 6 months..double in 1 year..Millionare (Crorepati) in 2-3 years...financial freedom by creating abundance..RYTHM..
After 2-3 hours u'll land up saying Yes with confused mind state as "What am i suppose to do in this business "
Nobody will answer this question till u join...after meeting same invitee friend will hug & assure u " You just come, will work as team ( Main Hoon Na )".
Now ur friend will start chasing u till he recieves entire money ...here starts surprises..u'll be asked to pay for Books/DVDs ( which all r pirated ones)
enrollment fees for seminars / systems etc etc.
The Quality & Price of product purchased as assured by ur mates ( Now he'll be ur Upline & u'll be his downline forever ) ,( if u r fortunate enough to receive Product ).
After joining Mathematics will be explained which is jugglery of numbers take u to Crorepati destination in some time.
Gist of the entire session will be " since u r trapped , if u wish to recover ur money u have to trap others" .
Though there will be little change in the script / venue etc but the intent will be identical to decieve u !!
It's a vicious circle of chasing dreams by duping ur own near n dear ones .
Do not indulge urself & others in this sham so called e-commerce busness !!!
Keep reading for more updates on legal case filed against Qnet .
Write up courtesy "Swatantra Bharat"... aapko shat shat pranam ___/\___
Supreme Court DISMISSED Petition of Questnet AKA QNET...below are the details of the order passed. They had challenged the Madras High Court order and had lost IN Madras HC also...I hope NOW cronies of Q-Gang like YY and others will just SHUT UP ...
S U P R E M E C O U R T O F I N D I A
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
Petition(s) for Special Leave to Appeal (Crl) No(s).6618/2013
(From the judgement and order dated 15/02/2013 in CRLRC No.1477/2012
of The HIGH COURT OF MADRAS)
PUSHPAM Petitioner(s)
VERSUS
STATE REP BY INSPECTOR OF POLICE Respondent(s)
(With appln(s) for ex-parte stay and office report)
Date: 26/08/2013 This Petition was called on for hearing today.
CORAM :
HON'BLE THE CHIEF JUSTICE
HON'BLE MRS. JUSTICE RANJANA PRAKASH DESAI
HON'BLE MR. JUSTICE RANJAN GOGOI
For Petitioner(s) Mr. Altaf Ahmed, Sr. Adv.
Mr. R. Shunmughasundaram, Sr. Adv.
Mr. N. Chandrasekharan, Adv.
Mr. V.G. Pragasam, AOR
Mr. S.J. Aristotle, Adv.
Mr. S. Prabu Ramasubramanian, Adv.
For Respondent(s)
UPON hearing counsel the Court made the following
O R D E R
Heard learned senior counsel for the petitioner and
perused the relevant material.
We do not find any legal and valid ground for
interference. The special leave petition is dismissed.
(Chetan Kumar)
Court Master
(Savita Sainani)
Court Master
Deceptive techniques used by QNET to cheat people revealed.
Step by Step the IR,s are trained on how to cheat common gullible people of their hard earned money and STEP by STEP we reveal their cunning schemes and techniques. Heat felt thanks to the “TEAM” for the content and for putting all together in such a beautiful way. I owe you guys..Thanks again.
DECEPTIVE MARKETING: QNET’S LIES EXPOSED
http://qnetexposed.com/?p=111
The Lies
1. Everyone is your prospect!
http://qnetexposed.com/?p=111&page=2
2. This isn’t selling; we just share this amazing business opportunity.
http://qnetexposed.com/?p=111&page=3
3. Anyone can do this!
http://qnetexposed.com/?p=111&page=4
4. We’ll build your business for you.
http://qnetexposed.com/?p=111&page=5
5. We have the best product ever!
http://qnetexposed.com/?p=111&page=6
6. You don’t have faith.
http://qnetexposed.com/?p=111&page=7
7. It’s a Completely Ethical Business.
http://qnetexposed.com/?p=111&page=8
Please help us spread the word every one.
Such a SHAME, Padma Bushan michael ferreira buttering a con mans *** for making a quick buck...shame on you michael ferreira, if you are so right,why have you left INDIA..why dont you come back?
Below is the posting found on one of the blogs that generates max hits for qnet india web site..SHAME AGAIN...SHAME on YOU michael ferreira...
michael ferreira 11 months ago
At the age of 67, I had achieved all I set out to do and was considered eminently successful by the usual parameters – beautiful home, a wonderful family, the mandatory gold Rolex with diamonds, several cars, a great farm house, no dearth of money et al. Then the opportunity offered by Dato Vijay Easwaran’s remarkable organisation came my way. It was as if I was struck by a thunderbolt. It was, as they say, a game changer for me. I jumped in with all guns blazing and in a relatively short time, thorough hard work, passion and commitment to the cause, I was able not only to enlarge my own options in life, but also to be the instrument of change for literally hundreds of thousands orf ordinary – and not so ordinary – folk. All I can say is thank the Lord that a man of the vision, calibre, character, and compassion of Dato Vijay has walked this earth.
@Gurpreet if your real name is "gurpreet" i dare you to share your IR code here, let me check if you are true, or i can safely assume what i said is true i.e you are using fake name and other things i stated regarding your parental lineage... are you a MAN enough...common share your IR code warna...go and SMELL THE SHIT
Top 5 things I hate about Qnet:
I actually wrote this post while listening to a Qnet presentation to one of my colleagues at work … I hope non of the Qnet people will take it personal as many of them do
1. How materialistic it transforms people . with Qnet you only care about the $$$
2. No one really cares about the products they are selling .. even the guy who was doing the presentation next to me, he didn’t really know much about the products. the guy allocated around 10% of the time talking about the products and the rest talking about gaining amazing profit from qnet with all the financial independence it provides
3. Mind trick games the IRs play during the presentations ( am doing this for you not for me , i only invite people who are willing to work not anyone ,.....)
4. After you enter Qnet .. you see everyone(Family, Friend , someone u barely know) as a potential customer or victim
5. Trying to associate Qnet to any big organization or event … before that there was Microsoft which didn’t go any further than installing their web servers then they stopped mentioning it .. today I heard the guy saying that they are the official sponsor of "Formula 1" !!! … I googled it and it turned out they are sponsors for the Virgin racing Team ... it just shows how desperately they seek some credibility
Qnet or any other "network marketing" thing (because it is not a job) is made for the losers in life. With all dissrespect, anybody who joins any of those crap company's is a lame loser. Those presenters just throw big "emotion driving" words like: Faith, Believe, Success, Dream...and use quotes from people who are REALY difference makers in the world (none of which are Qneters of course!) And they use those quotes or words to manipulate the crowd.
I am really sad the world has become so materialistic and all people care about is money....or what u can achieve with paper (that is money)!
Fulfill your dreams by joining Qnet! How can people live with themselves by selling "nothing" to people and claim that it will change ur life? That's just wrong! Don't be a slave to money! Use ur brain and don't take the "seemingly easy" way to achieve ur pathetic dreams!
Work hard, study hard, train hard, dream of doing something that will help u, ur community and humanity! Don't dream of making X amount of money!
At the end of the day, its ur choice. U choose if u want to live ur life being a slave for money, always look for the easy way out, don't have any humane values in life and stop using ur brain for the rest of ur life just to achieve ur "materialistic" dreams, then that's ur choice....use ur brain, don't let people use/abuse yours.
I hope this thing collapses soon. Its nothing but mind games for laundering your money away. For losers who are part of Qnet I despise you and hope you realize what an idiot you have been after Qnet collapses.
http://betello.blogspot.in/2011/06/top-5...
@ FAKE Gurpreet, well the hi-fi lawyers of QNET have had the taste of my COURAGE in courts(r u one of them?)
Regarding FORB@$ article yes it is a perfect example of “Yellow Journalism” and I have evidence to prove it, but then that is NOT MY DAMN CASE, My case against QNET is that of “Operating a money circulation scheme in India” and they have already been CHARGE SHEETED before for the same and as per Government records Vijay Easwaran is a ABSCONDING ACCUSED ;) (Oh god how I love to use that word a ABSCONDING ACCUSED for Vijay Easwaran).
FORB@$ is above the crime branch/madras high court and supreme court of India where QNET/QUESTNET has lost everything? Yea yea …
Oh yes WHOIS IS VIJAY EASWARAN…let me answer that for u again….
He is an ABSCONDING ACCUSED and wanted in INDIA for running “money circulation scheme” and cheating thousands of people in India. He is a WHITE COLLARED CRIMINAL who has A BRAIN for devising SCAMS and re-packaging the same OLD SHIT again and again, if he is so RIGHT, why does he not comes to India and face the trials..why is he ABSCODING?. He is just a DAMN CHEATER NOTHING ELSE.
At one hand there is Sucheta Dalal who has been awarded “Padma Shree” for exposing scams like HARSHAD MEHTA etc and other HAND you have the ABSCONDING ACCUSED VIJAY EASWARAN…wanted for CHEATING AND 420 in India…YES readers are smart enough and they know the FACTS and that’s the reason QNET is in this MESS now, what I am doing is getting support because everyone knows what a BIG CHEAT ABSCONDING ACCUSED VIJAY EASWARAN is.
Mr. FAKE Gurpreet you THINK you have the BIRTH RIGHT TO COME HERE AND ASK QUESTIONS? How come you have not answered a single of my question then…PROVE it your real name is “Gurpreet” share your IR code and let everyone know you are real or as we all know…you are a FAKE like QNET and its BIG CHEAT ABSCONDING ACCUSED VIJAY EASWARAN is.
Answer my question and I will let you know “how many lives I have touched”. I am not a SCAMSTER like you guys and that BIG CHEAT ABSCONDING ACCUSED VIJAY EASWARAN is.
Hum Desh Sevak hain…Desh kae gaddar nahi like U guys…U will never understand the only thing you guys can do is…F2, Find two bakras..find veeru and jai..but for HOW LONG…the company is winding up and will soon vanish in a few days..then what will you do?
You all will be left back to face criminal cases like it happened in CHENNAI before.. your properties, cars etc will be seized and frozen by police authorities , you all will be added as ACCUSED and the only option you all will have will be to face trial as a ACCUSED or turn GOVERNMENT APPROVER.
What I am stating here is not something new, it has happened before and history is just repeating it self…now is the time for the IR,s to decide..they want to be called as ACCUSED or they should stop propagating this SCAM further and join in the investigation and help the law enforcement agencies and turn in GOVERNMENT APPROVER before they are named as accused in police cases.
Now Absconding Accused Vijay Easwaran disowns "QNET INDIA"
These are experts taken from the interview of Absconding Accused Vijay Easwaran
“QNET operates in India through a Franchise company hence Absconding Accused Vijay Easwaran has no involvement in it, he is neither a director nor a shareholder of Qnet India.
He further threatened to seriously think of Pulling out of INDIA.”
BOSS, you are talking of pulling out? YOU and YOUR SCAM will be KICKED out of my nation INDIA wait and see and this will not be the FIRST TIME that you are KICKED at your FAT A$$ and thrown out, will follow your SHAM company and expose it till you call it QUITS, the sooner you PULL OUT the better warna you know that saying “Badey Beaabroo ho kar terey dar sae nikley”
So Mr. Absconding Accused Vijay Easwaran if you have a BRAIN to think of new new SCAMS there are people who can work together to EXPOSE your SCAMS...r u ready for it now….hahaha
QNET QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS !!
In my answers, I will try and explain whatever little I know about Qnet. I have a close friend having been tricked into becoming a member and also got know a few other people. Since I was very curious about the Qnet Scam I researched and got my answers. Its a pyramid scheme in the disguise of an MLM business model.
Q1. What is the Business of Qnet?
The business of Qnet is to sell the epic dream of 'Work for a couple of years and earn forever, doing nothing'. Needless to say, there are millions of people across the world, who buy into this dream.
To become a Qnet member you have to buy products between INR 40K -120K. Qnet sells its products at crazy margins, for eg my friend bought their bestselling product A Healing Biodisc 2for INR 22,000. In reality, it is just a 3 Inch glass disc that can be procured from China for nothing more than INR 100.
The gross margin is whopping 21900%.
Q2. What is the greatness in products that Qnet sells?
The greatness of a Qnet product is that it contains magic. Or atleast a promise of magic.
And most magic is perceived rather than reality. How do you know if a health shake you just drank increased your immunity or not. The Qnet members who buy these products believe in them because THEY WANT to believe in them.
I will give you a few examples. The top 3 categories for Qnet are Energy, Nutrition and Personal Care.
A Qnet biodisc for INR 22K is supposed you make you feel fresh. There is no measurable/ visible effect of freshness. You might as well buy a Tibetan ring for INR 250 that also claims to make you feel fresh.
Similarly Qnet's Nutriplus protein powder costs INR 4000 and improves immunity and builds Muscle. But one can also buy a horlicks for the same and it costs only 150 bucks.
You get the drift.
Q3. Who makes these products that Qnet sells and what is the relationship of Qnet the Company and the manufacturers? Is it Vendor - Principal, Self Manufactured or a combination of Both?
It’s a combination of both.
In my discussions with one of the estranged senior member I got to know that most of their products are manufactured or sourced from China. A few products are sourced from other countries as well.
For their travel package product they have a couple of self owned resorts in Thailand.
Q4. What margins are possible to be earned on such products? Answer with world examples of similar industries and quote some publicly available data.
Product level gross margins are upwards of 10000% in most products.
At a company level the cost structure looks like follows
As a percentage of revenues, 20% are operating expenses. MLM companies are heavy on marketing and sponsorships, international and local seminar with celebrities, promotions, IT, Trainings etc. For eg Qnet is associated with F1, Donates to Unesco, Is the sponsor of Indian Davios cup team etc.
40% is distributed as commissions between the 'Upchain' members. All those people who have led to this member are paid. People higher in the chain get paid less per transaction but will have higher cumulative earnings and vice versa. Qnet follows a MLM model known as Binary Tree Structure. The commission models can be disguised in many forms but broadly the payouts remain the same.
Remaining 40% is operating profit of the company (Qnet)
These percentages (20:40:40) differ for different companies. Qnet chooses to spend more money on marketing and promotions to increase its member network. With time it is becoming increasingly difficult for MLM companies to make members. A decade back a large MLM company could have done with (10:30:60) model.
ROIs, ofcourse are crazy since this business is not capital intensive. Its scam intensive :)
I am surprised on how media and government are quiet on such large scale scams.
The product level margins are as follows
A Biodisc2 Costs, INR 100 and selss for INR 22,000
A Nutriplus costs INR 4000, comparable Horlicks costs INR 150
Qnet will debate that their product has some magic that horlicks does not have , but it’s just sales talk.
Q5. How can these margins be remunerative by sharing across multiple levels of people? If margins are finite, how can sharing be infinite? (It is possible
A successful binary tree model MLM company can reach 1 million members in 24-28 layers and 10 million members in 30-34 layers.
If a company has say 10 million members, the commission from a new transaction will be divided between 30-40 members in the Upline. Its infinite only in theory.The commission models can be disguised in many forms but broadly the payouts remain the same
Before starting Qnet promoters used to run a company called Goldquest , which is a known scam and is now banned in many countries. Most MLM companies have a shelf life of 5-10 years. Once the pace of signing up new members becomes really slow, the promoters will start a new company. They can either wind up the current company or let it linger on for sometime.
After winding up, promoters usually restart with a new product and new name. Their top distributors move with top 3-5 layers of downline to the new company. This is exactly what has happened with Glodquest promoters started Qnet.
I also want to touch upon the phenomenon of Qnet members trying to make a new member. We all have been approached by some friend/ relative for some MLM company or the other. An active MLM member does not look at his relationships as relatives and friends, he only starts looking at them as downlines. He also manages to convince a few only to realise a few months/ years later that he has lost/ strained that valuable relationship.A newbie however is different, he is still trying to understand the people and business and once he realises the truth drops out of the chain. 50% of the MLM members become inactive in the first year itself.
The members do not themselves believe that they are doing something wrong because of 2 reasons. Firstly they don’t know that they are part of larger scam and take it to be genuine business proposition. Secondly even if they know about the scam they don’t mind since they see a few senior members making a lot of money. The senior members are ‘demi god’ figures in the network. They are idolised and spoken about in every conference. What members fail to realise is that big money is only made by people who are way higher up in the chain and this money will keep flowing in to them only for a few years till that scam survives. After a few years these distributors will move along with their key team to another company and start rebuilding their downlines.
So the mantra is that if someone really wants to make money from the MLM scam, they need to ensure that they are early members of the chain in their country, Milk the cow and then move on to the next new company and product.
This can only be avoided by an active media and government. MLM is highly regulated in western countries and hence you will see that most fraud MLM companies are active in Asia/ MENA region.
6. Why can’t Qnet sell its great products (with its great margins like Walmart) and become the biggest retailer in the world?
Please refer answer 2.
There is no real need for these products, they are bought not for their benefits but to as a ticket to the evil /epic dream.
Ans 7) In the disguise of empowering people, Qnet only fools them. Even the acts of good faith are done to gain publicity.
Ans 8) In last decade or two network marketing has become an evil word, the mention of the same itself will make people run away. The Qnet members are trained not to give any indication of the business early on to a prospect. The real sales pitch only comes from a senior member in a face to face meeting.
Ans 9) Most fraud MLM companies sell dubious products at obscene prices. These products can only be sold by push that comes naturally in Pester Marketing. Many members buy a product simple because someone who is dear to them has harassed them enough to buy it. These members are not even looking at this buying to become a part of the network. The only other people who buy these product for logical reasons are members looking for further income.
Ans 10) I think his article answers your question Page onhttp://www.howstuffworks.com/pyramid-sch....
Author Supreet Singh
WAKE UP AND SMELL THE SHIT LA!!
Mr Thimiri, the so-called CEO of the controversial MLM, owns registered trademark of QNet in India. He also admitted before the High Court that his company Transview imports and manufactures products for selling to Vihaan Direct, the official franchisee of QNet in India
The case of QNet, the Hong Kong-based controversial multi-level marketing (MLM) operator is taking new twists every day even as all top executives of the company in India decided to stay hidden citing a case filed with economics offences wing (EOW) of Mumbai police.
Interestingly, Suresh Thimiri, who is often touted as QNet India's chief executive and had denied any relationship with QNet or any of its representatives, owns the 'QNet' trademark in India through his company Transview Enterprises Pvt Ltd! See the images below obtained from Trade Marks Registry. Mr Thimiri's company has filed class 42 application for 'QNet' trademark in India.
As Moneylife reported, Mr Thimiri, in his anticipatory bail application filed on 19 August 2013, before additional session Judge DA Dholkia had said, "The applicant (Thimiri) does not hold any sort of relation neither with the Company (QNet) nor its representative (including Eswaran and Vihaan Direct Selling India Pvt Ltd) against whom the Complainthas been lodged by the respondents (Gurupreet Singh Anand) in Oshiwara Police Station." (See image below)
Transview Enterprises is an associate company of Vihaan Direct Selling that handles QNet's MLM operations in India since 14 April 2012. Before that QNet's Indian operations were controlled by QuestNet Enterprises (India) Pvt Ltd, a company registered at Chennai. QuestNet Enterprises was operating QNEI eStore, a platform from where IRs, which is how the investor-dealers of QNet are described, could place orders or buy products and also enrol new recruits. After launching Vihaan, the company asked all its old IRs to mandatorily register under the new business name in order to receive their commissions. Vihaan is a direct selling agent of QNet and had done large financial transactions with Mr Thimiri's company Transview. This made the EOW to freeze Transview's bank accounts in ING Vyasa Bank at Bengaluru.
Mr Thimiri, who in his anticipatory bail application had denied any relations with QNet and its representative, has ratified deals between Vihaan Direct Selling and his company, Transview Enterprise.
In his application before the Bombay High Court to defreeze bank accounts of Transview Enterprise, Mr Thimiri said, "The applicant (Mr Thimiri, director of Transview) is in the business of importing and manufacturing products such as Bio Discs, Chi Pendants, Nutriplus, Homepure, watches and various other products and sells the same to M/s Vihaan Direct Selling India Pvt Ltd."
These revelations may come as shocker to few die-hard independent representatives (IRs) of QNet as they strongly believe that all QNet products are imported! From where? Only the company knew about, as it is kept hidden from public view. Anyway, now with Mr Thimiri's clarification about 'manufacturing' of QNet products, these IRs will know the truth.
After perusing both the applications filed by Mr Thimiri before Courts, here are some facts...
1. Mr Thimiri accepted that Transview does not have any relations with Vihaan Direct Selling except supplier-purchaser relations.
2. Mr Thimiri's Transview Enterprise owns the QNet trademark (used exclusively by Vihaan) in India.
3. Vihaan Direct Selling is QNet Ltd's franchisee that carries the QNet brand name in India. After launching Vihaan, the company asked all its old IRs to mandatorily register under the new business name in order to receive their commissions.
4. Mr Thimiri has been named as accused in the report submitted by the EOW before the Sessions Court, Mumbai. It states: “The accused Suresh Thimiri has played active role in running the Money Circulation Scheme under the guise of investment opportunity and the income earned by the participants is based on enrolment of new members into the scheme.”
While Mr Thimiri is trying very hard to de-link himself from the probe, his own submissions are revealing truth. Vihaan Direct Selling carries 'QNet' brand in India that is registered trademark of Transview Enterprise of Mr Thimiri. The submission made by Mr Thimiri before the Courts only underline his links with QNet in India.
Another interesting aspect in the whole episode is all top officials (?) of QNet India do not want to reveal their identity and remain hidden. We repeatedly sent emails to the company's official PR agency and also some officials from its parent QI group.
We asked "Can you please tell us about Mr Suresh Thimiri, who is often labelled as India CEO of QNet on QNetIndia's Facebook page. Is Mr Thimiri the CEO of QNet in India? If not, then who heads QNet in India and who are the top management people? In addition, we would like to know the relations, if any, between QNet, Vihaan Direct Selling India Pvt Ltd and Transview Enterprises Pvt Ltd."
Here is the reply we received from the PR agency of QNet India...
"This is apropos our telecon now a while back and in furtherance to our earlier discussion which took place on the 30 August 2013 with regards to our client QNET, referred by you in your email. On your request, we reached out to our client again today, but they were of the same considered view that since the matter is still sub-judice, they would not like to give any comments for the time being. We will be happy to reach out to you should our client decide to make any statement to the media in the future."
To read the complete story with images please click this link
http://www.moneylife.in/article/qnet-the...
@Gurpreet first of all SHAME on you for faking my name on this BLOG, is that the best you could manage to do? You are as FAKE as your FAKE & SCAM Company…now I will answer your stupid propaganda…
The Dubai TV video you posted is raw footage and when I see the whole video it seems it was never BROADCAST it is a private video or at best a video shot at the EVENT but NEVER broadcast as there are no news anchors, no Tv Logos nothing….it just a RAW footage shot at the event and posted by you all…as FAKE as your FAKE COMPANY…
Here are the real FACTS about the SCAM called QNET…
The Anti QNET project…
A very well researched video documentary on how QNET spoils relations, families and economies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcQkqOsAp...
Discussion on Pyramid Scheme and its devastating financial carnage in Iran.
Press TV-Iran Today-The Pyramidal Mirage -07-16-2010(Part1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nInPFJIbv...
Press TV-Iran Today-The Pyramidal Mirage -07-16-2010(Part2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnBbHv9WL...
Press TV-Iran Today-The Pyramidal Mirage -07-16-2010(Part3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ3ybzhSk...
Now the same SCAM is being repeated in India…I will fight it the BEST I can…
Raise The Bar Higher is the same SHIT REPACKAGED, that’s what you SCAM company does year after year…REPACKAGE THE SAME SHIT !!
Oh YES, we love blasting the WE-Con, the yearly events to fool and brain wash poor people from all over the world, while QNET cons people by selling them No-Value goods, the V Network CONS them by selling tickets to the stupid WE-Cons.
Diamonds AKA(also known as) Cheaters, the people who have cheated their own and near dear.
ISB oh yea yea yea….one more clone of the WE-Con train more bakras to cheat others..
Putting up advertisements in a football match makes QNET LEGIT? In the first place your company claims to be a DIRECT SELLING COMPANY.. DIRECT SELLING COMPANY are supposed to save money because they do not advertise and that’s what you tell to others at the time of prospecting…so yes your lies are exposed again…what CRAP..if you spend HEAVILY of advertising, have brand ambassadors how does that make you a DIRECT SELLING COMPANY?
YES WAKE UP AND SMELL THE SHIT!
Bio Shit (oops I meant Disc) Mallo aur KAAM par Lago…jakey F2 & Rule 3 Karo !!
YES we have Bhagat Singh in our heart and souls not unlike TRAITORS like you, TUM LOGON KO THO APNA NAAM TAK NAHI PATA…DADDY KA PATA HAI? YA BARISTA & CCD PAR PAIDA HUWEY THIE?
Dusrey ki salary gintey ho..apna BOLO? You all are failures in real life who could not excel in job or business and hence take up this cheating business called QNET to make a QUICK BUCK by cheating on your own near and dear!!
Yes GO SELL DREAMS and cheat people…I am a successful Entrepreneur myself without cheating and scamming any one like you…
Mummy ko jakey apna asli naam puch lena…or I will assume u are someone who does not have a real name….and yea…ask for your father’s name also…
Modus Operandi of Qnet -
You will get a call from a friend / Colleague whose not so close / distant for years...informal chat converted to business proposal .
The person who's being called is a " Prospect " which needs to be converted to " Plan ". The word Plan depicts it al l- it's planned to dupe you !!!
Normal conversation for a business invitation - " I am indulged in an International Business for financial freedom ( Kitane Din Naukri karta ..?? for how long will serve others ?? etc etc) .We are into expansion phase, one of my senior business partner from.... place will be visiting in this regards by tomorrow / day after tomm.
Can i book an appointment with him / her ?? But you must be punctual as time of seniors is very precious ( Bullshit..these crooks are lying there day n nite ).
Pls bring ur CV also as proper interview will be conducted , if u get selected u'll be offered this Opportunity..no promises."
Once the appointment fixed u'll be called at Coffee shops like CCD /Barista etc etc to impose on Freedom from office envrionment ( fact is qnet does not have place to sit anywhere) . Once u reach to place 2-3 so called seniors will sit along with u ( as taught by seniors when a plan arrives ratio of Plan & IRs should always be +1 i.e. if plan is single person then atleast 2 IRS should b present , if 2 persons attending the plan IR strngth should be more than 2 ...this is to create psychological pressure / stress on "Plan" )
Before conversation starts ur dear friend will "edify" the senior which elaborates on how rich he/she in professional career with handsome experience of years in Corporate world etc etc. Senior business partner starts with own well crafted story which which throw light on Banking/ Insurance/Telecom/media world scenario 7 then his own Organisation wherein his Boss / Colleagues lost their jobs with tagline ..though i was secure i've started looking for an opportunity.Then the story goes roller coaster way how he /she introduced in this business passing thru below questionaire -
1,Whether u r willing to Learn - very popular example qouted will be of Sachin Tendulakar palying Golf after his retirement
2.Time - 20 hrs a week
3.Constraint about any specific Industry
4.Investment - 3-7 lacs - One time , no recurring charges
The entire conversation is well drafted, rehearsed & executed...result u may be convinced to join it..
But there won't be any informtion imparted untill u commit to join with handsome money..
Robbert Kiyosaki's 4 Quadrant theory...details of Company..it's subdiaries.e-commerce way of business...DOT.com balloon bursts..etc.
Assurance of money back in 6 months..double in 1 year..Millionare (Crorepati) in 2-3 years...financial freedom by creating abundance..RYTHM..
After 2-3 hours u'll land up saying Yes with confused mind state as "What am i suppose to do in this business "
Nobody will answer this question till u join...after meeting same invitee friend will hug & assure u " You just come, will work as team ( Main Hoon Na )".
Now ur friend will start chasing u till he recieves entire money ...here starts surprises..u'll be asked to pay for Books/DVDs ( which all r pirated ones)
enrollment fees for seminars / systems etc etc.
The Quality & Price of product purchased as assured by ur mates ( Now he'll be ur Upline & u'll be his downline forever ) ,( if u r fortunate enough to receive Product ).
After joining Mathematics will be explained which is jugglery of numbers take u to Crorepati destination in some time.
Gist of the entire session will be " since u r trapped , if u wish to recover ur money u have to trap others" .
Though there will be little change in the script / venue etc but the intent will be identical to decieve u !!
It's a vicious circle of chasing dreams by duping ur own near n dear ones .
Do not indulge urself & others in this sham so called e-commerce busness !!!
Keep reading for more updates on legal case filed against Qnet .
Write up courtesy "Swatantra Bharat"... aapko shat shat pranam ___/\___
Supreme Court DISMISSED Petition of Questnet AKA QNET...below are the details of the order passed. They had challenged the Madras High Court order and had lost IN Madras HC also...I hope NOW cronies of Q-Gang like YY and others will just SHUT UP ...
S U P R E M E C O U R T O F I N D I A
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
Petition(s) for Special Leave to Appeal (Crl) No(s).6618/2013
(From the judgement and order dated 15/02/2013 in CRLRC No.1477/2012
of The HIGH COURT OF MADRAS)
PUSHPAM Petitioner(s)
VERSUS
STATE REP BY INSPECTOR OF POLICE Respondent(s)
(With appln(s) for ex-parte stay and office report)
Date: 26/08/2013 This Petition was called on for hearing today.
CORAM :
HON'BLE THE CHIEF JUSTICE
HON'BLE MRS. JUSTICE RANJANA PRAKASH DESAI
HON'BLE MR. JUSTICE RANJAN GOGOI
For Petitioner(s) Mr. Altaf Ahmed, Sr. Adv.
Mr. R. Shunmughasundaram, Sr. Adv.
Mr. N. Chandrasekharan, Adv.
Mr. V.G. Pragasam, AOR
Mr. S.J. Aristotle, Adv.
Mr. S. Prabu Ramasubramanian, Adv.
For Respondent(s)
UPON hearing counsel the Court made the following
O R D E R
Heard learned senior counsel for the petitioner and
perused the relevant material.
We do not find any legal and valid ground for
interference. The special leave petition is dismissed.
(Chetan Kumar)
Court Master
(Savita Sainani)
Court Master
Deceptive techniques used by QNET to cheat people revealed.
Step by Step the IR,s are trained on how to cheat common gullible people of their hard earned money and STEP by STEP we reveal their cunning schemes and techniques. Heat felt thanks to the “TEAM” for the content and for putting all together in such a beautiful way. I owe you guys..Thanks again.
DECEPTIVE MARKETING: QNET’S LIES EXPOSED
http://qnetexposed.com/?p=111
The Lies
1. Everyone is your prospect!
http://qnetexposed.com/?p=111&page=2
2. This isn’t selling; we just share this amazing business opportunity.
http://qnetexposed.com/?p=111&page=3
3. Anyone can do this!
http://qnetexposed.com/?p=111&page=4
4. We’ll build your business for you.
http://qnetexposed.com/?p=111&page=5
5. We have the best product ever!
http://qnetexposed.com/?p=111&page=6
6. You don’t have faith.
http://qnetexposed.com/?p=111&page=7
7. It’s a Completely Ethical Business.
http://qnetexposed.com/?p=111&page=8
Please help us spread the word every one.
Such a SHAME, Padma Bushan michael ferreira buttering a con mans *** for making a quick buck...shame on you michael ferreira, if you are so right,why have you left INDIA..why dont you come back?
Below is the posting found on one of the blogs that generates max hits for qnet india web site..SHAME AGAIN...SHAME on YOU michael ferreira...
michael ferreira 11 months ago
At the age of 67, I had achieved all I set out to do and was considered eminently successful by the usual parameters – beautiful home, a wonderful family, the mandatory gold Rolex with diamonds, several cars, a great farm house, no dearth of money et al. Then the opportunity offered by Dato Vijay Easwaran’s remarkable organisation came my way. It was as if I was struck by a thunderbolt. It was, as they say, a game changer for me. I jumped in with all guns blazing and in a relatively short time, thorough hard work, passion and commitment to the cause, I was able not only to enlarge my own options in life, but also to be the instrument of change for literally hundreds of thousands orf ordinary – and not so ordinary – folk. All I can say is thank the Lord that a man of the vision, calibre, character, and compassion of Dato Vijay has walked this earth.
@Gurpreet if your real name is "gurpreet" i dare you to share your IR code here, let me check if you are true, or i can safely assume what i said is true i.e you are using fake name and other things i stated regarding your parental lineage... are you a MAN enough...common share your IR code warna...go and SMELL THE SHIT
We won that time also & am sure will win again.
Honesty may take time but will surely WIN big Time......
Req your suggestion to youths to work hard .... do u mean to say they aren't doing currently ? Guess you really haven't entered anyones shoes as yet to know whether they are getting upto their expectations.
Goto Crosswords & pls buy n Read this book "Rich Dad Poor Dad's Business School for People who Like Helping People".
watch these videos n first get yourself affirmed of the current scenarios ......
Warren Buffet, Donald Trump, Robert Kiyosaki, Bob Proctor,Direc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8z4qw8HZ...
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What Is Your Plan B? "Network Marketing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZhF56hWi...
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Network Marketing Inspirational Video: Why We ROCK!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FANoGDj9G...
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Why Network Marketing? DId you catch Oprah show on network marketing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuX5h2oja...
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Robert Kiyosaki The Perfect Business | Network Marketing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPTL-Ceo3...
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Bill Gates announces what are the 2 TOP industries to be a part of!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXD1nQOwE...
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Robert Kiyosaki The Business Of The 21st Century - Network Mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3lz3pe_7...
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Why Network Marketing - Top 4 reasons to do network marketing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFJqsDv7t...
I actually wrote this post while listening to a Qnet presentation to one of my colleagues at work … I hope non of the Qnet people will take it personal as many of them do
1. How materialistic it transforms people . with Qnet you only care about the $$$
2. No one really cares about the products they are selling .. even the guy who was doing the presentation next to me, he didn’t really know much about the products. the guy allocated around 10% of the time talking about the products and the rest talking about gaining amazing profit from qnet with all the financial independence it provides
3. Mind trick games the IRs play during the presentations ( am doing this for you not for me , i only invite people who are willing to work not anyone ,.....)
4. After you enter Qnet .. you see everyone(Family, Friend , someone u barely know) as a potential customer or victim
5. Trying to associate Qnet to any big organization or event … before that there was Microsoft which didn’t go any further than installing their web servers then they stopped mentioning it .. today I heard the guy saying that they are the official sponsor of "Formula 1" !!! … I googled it and it turned out they are sponsors for the Virgin racing Team ... it just shows how desperately they seek some credibility
Qnet or any other "network marketing" thing (because it is not a job) is made for the losers in life. With all dissrespect, anybody who joins any of those crap company's is a lame loser. Those presenters just throw big "emotion driving" words like: Faith, Believe, Success, Dream...and use quotes from people who are REALY difference makers in the world (none of which are Qneters of course!) And they use those quotes or words to manipulate the crowd.
I am really sad the world has become so materialistic and all people care about is money....or what u can achieve with paper (that is money)!
Fulfill your dreams by joining Qnet! How can people live with themselves by selling "nothing" to people and claim that it will change ur life? That's just wrong! Don't be a slave to money! Use ur brain and don't take the "seemingly easy" way to achieve ur pathetic dreams!
Work hard, study hard, train hard, dream of doing something that will help u, ur community and humanity! Don't dream of making X amount of money!
At the end of the day, its ur choice. U choose if u want to live ur life being a slave for money, always look for the easy way out, don't have any humane values in life and stop using ur brain for the rest of ur life just to achieve ur "materialistic" dreams, then that's ur choice....use ur brain, don't let people use/abuse yours.
I hope this thing collapses soon. Its nothing but mind games for laundering your money away. For losers who are part of Qnet I despise you and hope you realize what an idiot you have been after Qnet collapses.
http://betello.blogspot.in/2011/06/top-5...
If you have lost any money with QI/Qnet or have been scammed (or know someone who has), you can file a complaint with the Economic Offences Wing of the Mumbai Police. They have filed an FIR against QNet/Frozen bank accounts/arrested IR. They may get your money back or atleast save others from getting trapped in this scam. Their address is:
Additional Commissioner of Police
Economic Offences Wing
Crime Branch, Mumbai Police
Police Commissioner's Office
Opposite Crawford Market
D N Road, Fort
Mumbai 400 001
Rgds
You can also find details in http://qnetexposed.com
ARTICLES ON FIR AGAINST QNET BY MUMBAI POLICE/FROZEN BANK ACCOUNTS/ARRESTS:
http://www.moneylife.in/article/qnet-the...
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes....
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/busin...
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes....
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes....
http://www.business-standard.com/article...
http://www.moneylife.in/article/qnet-whe...
http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes...
http://www.moneylife.in/article/qnet-mum...
http://www.moneylife.in/article/qnet-six...
http://www.moneylife.in/article/qnet-eow...
http://www.mid-day.com/news/2013/sep/030...
http://www.business-standard.com/article...
http://smartinvestor.business-standard.c...
http://www.business-standard.com/article...
http://www.quora.com/What-is-the-Busines...
http://www.quora.com/Multi-Level-Marketi...
https://getsatisfaction.com/qnet/topics
Regarding FORB@$ article yes it is a perfect example of “Yellow Journalism” and I have evidence to prove it, but then that is NOT MY DAMN CASE, My case against QNET is that of “Operating a money circulation scheme in India” and they have already been CHARGE SHEETED before for the same and as per Government records Vijay Easwaran is a ABSCONDING ACCUSED ;) (Oh god how I love to use that word a ABSCONDING ACCUSED for Vijay Easwaran).
FORB@$ is above the crime branch/madras high court and supreme court of India where QNET/QUESTNET has lost everything? Yea yea …
Oh yes WHOIS IS VIJAY EASWARAN…let me answer that for u again….
He is an ABSCONDING ACCUSED and wanted in INDIA for running “money circulation scheme” and cheating thousands of people in India. He is a WHITE COLLARED CRIMINAL who has A BRAIN for devising SCAMS and re-packaging the same OLD SHIT again and again, if he is so RIGHT, why does he not comes to India and face the trials..why is he ABSCODING?. He is just a DAMN CHEATER NOTHING ELSE.
At one hand there is Sucheta Dalal who has been awarded “Padma Shree” for exposing scams like HARSHAD MEHTA etc and other HAND you have the ABSCONDING ACCUSED VIJAY EASWARAN…wanted for CHEATING AND 420 in India…YES readers are smart enough and they know the FACTS and that’s the reason QNET is in this MESS now, what I am doing is getting support because everyone knows what a BIG CHEAT ABSCONDING ACCUSED VIJAY EASWARAN is.
Mr. FAKE Gurpreet you THINK you have the BIRTH RIGHT TO COME HERE AND ASK QUESTIONS? How come you have not answered a single of my question then…PROVE it your real name is “Gurpreet” share your IR code and let everyone know you are real or as we all know…you are a FAKE like QNET and its BIG CHEAT ABSCONDING ACCUSED VIJAY EASWARAN is.
Answer my question and I will let you know “how many lives I have touched”. I am not a SCAMSTER like you guys and that BIG CHEAT ABSCONDING ACCUSED VIJAY EASWARAN is.
Hum Desh Sevak hain…Desh kae gaddar nahi like U guys…U will never understand the only thing you guys can do is…F2, Find two bakras..find veeru and jai..but for HOW LONG…the company is winding up and will soon vanish in a few days..then what will you do?
You all will be left back to face criminal cases like it happened in CHENNAI before.. your properties, cars etc will be seized and frozen by police authorities , you all will be added as ACCUSED and the only option you all will have will be to face trial as a ACCUSED or turn GOVERNMENT APPROVER.
What I am stating here is not something new, it has happened before and history is just repeating it self…now is the time for the IR,s to decide..they want to be called as ACCUSED or they should stop propagating this SCAM further and join in the investigation and help the law enforcement agencies and turn in GOVERNMENT APPROVER before they are named as accused in police cases.
Vande Matram
Guru
We won that time also & am sure will win again.
Honesty may take time but will surely WIN big Time......
Req your suggestion to youths to work hard .... do u mean to say they aren't doing currently ? Guess you really haven't entered anyones shoes as yet to know whether they are getting upto their expectations.
Goto Crosswords & pls buy n Read this book "Rich Dad Poor Dad's Business School for People who Like Helping People".
watch these videos n first get yourself affirmed of the current scenarios ......
Warren Buffet, Donald Trump, Robert Kiyosaki, Bob Proctor,Direc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8z4qw8HZ...
========================
What Is Your Plan B? "Network Marketing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZhF56hWi...
-------------------------
Network Marketing Inspirational Video: Why We ROCK!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FANoGDj9G...
==========================
Why Network Marketing? DId you catch Oprah show on network marketing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuX5h2oja...
======================
Robert Kiyosaki The Perfect Business | Network Marketing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPTL-Ceo3...
=======================
Bill Gates announces what are the 2 TOP industries to be a part of!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXD1nQOwE...
============================
Robert Kiyosaki The Business Of The 21st Century - Network Mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3lz3pe_7...
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Why Network Marketing - Top 4 reasons to do network marketing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFJqsDv7t...
http://www.forbes.com/profile/vijay-eswa...
Who is Dato Vijay Eswaran ?
http://www.vijayeswaran.com/
Wikipedia link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vijay_Eswar...
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Now the fact is as follows & I am sure ppl will trust the Forbes than anything else like these blogs which are public dependent &
Sucheta Dalal, an Indian financial journalist who crusades against scams and promotes workshops on how to avoid them, made the most of our story, flatly calling Eswaran’s company a fraud in her Moneylife blog. In a Twitter post she laments, “It’s pathetic how Qnet is leading people to financial ruin.” And in another she suggested we had been bribed to run the story. We offered her a chance to make her case by debating Eswaran’s chief lawyer online. She ridiculed the offer and refused to accept it.
source link -
http://www.forbes.com/sites/donaldfrazie...
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I am sure the readers are smart enough to decide what is right & what is wrong by reading your family anger liners & the genuine facts .
All the best bro ! ! !
By the way the answer to my last question yet remains unanswered by you ..... repeat it again for you , As an Entrepreneur as you have describe yourself, How Many Entrepreneurs have you helped until date to become like you ???
How many peoples lives have you touched ???
Work on this bro ! you indeed have a good potential for the nation, use it wisely for benefit of Nation
That will be true service to the Nation.
If you have lost any money with QI/Qnet or have been scammed (or know someone who has), you can file a complaint with the Economic Offences Wing of the Mumbai Police. They have filed an FIR against QNet/Frozen bank accounts/arrested IR. They may get your money back or atleast save others from getting trapped in this scam. Their address is:
Additional Commissioner of Police
Economic Offences Wing
Crime Branch, Mumbai Police
Police Commissioner's Office
Opposite Crawford Market
D N Road, Fort
Mumbai 400 001
Rgds
You can also find details in http://qnetexposed.com
ARTICLES ON FIR AGAINST QNET BY MUMBAI POLICE/FROZEN BANK ACCOUNTS/ARRESTS:
http://www.moneylife.in/article/qnet-the...
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes....
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/busin...
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes....
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes....
http://www.business-standard.com/article...
http://www.moneylife.in/article/qnet-whe...
http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes...
http://www.moneylife.in/article/qnet-mum...
http://www.moneylife.in/article/qnet-six...
http://www.moneylife.in/article/qnet-eow...
http://www.mid-day.com/news/2013/sep/030...
http://www.business-standard.com/article...
http://smartinvestor.business-standard.c...
http://www.business-standard.com/article...
http://www.quora.com/What-is-the-Busines...
http://www.quora.com/Multi-Level-Marketi...
https://getsatisfaction.com/qnet/topics
These are experts taken from the interview of Absconding Accused Vijay Easwaran
“QNET operates in India through a Franchise company hence Absconding Accused Vijay Easwaran has no involvement in it, he is neither a director nor a shareholder of Qnet India.
He further threatened to seriously think of Pulling out of INDIA.”
BOSS, you are talking of pulling out? YOU and YOUR SCAM will be KICKED out of my nation INDIA wait and see and this will not be the FIRST TIME that you are KICKED at your FAT A$$ and thrown out, will follow your SHAM company and expose it till you call it QUITS, the sooner you PULL OUT the better warna you know that saying “Badey Beaabroo ho kar terey dar sae nikley”
So Mr. Absconding Accused Vijay Easwaran if you have a BRAIN to think of new new SCAMS there are people who can work together to EXPOSE your SCAMS...r u ready for it now….hahaha
Happy Dhanteras..... It's an awesome earning season.... Bro.. keep doing this. We call this free publicity.
Account Name: Vihaan Direct Selling India Pvt Ltd,
Bank Name: State Bank of India
Branch: Horamavu
Address: NO.2A Munireddy Layout,Horamavu Main Road, Banaswadi, Bangalore – 560043.
Account No: 32322965489
IFSC Code: SBIN0013397
Happy Diwali Q...next is what?
Hehe more to come ;)
Account Name: Vihaan Direct Selling India Pvt Ltd,
Bank Name: State Bank of India
Branch: Horamavu
Address: NO.2A Munireddy Layout,Horamavu Main Road, Banaswadi, Bangalore – 560043.
Account No: 32322965489
IFSC Code: SBIN0013397
Happy Diwali Q...next is what?
Hehe more to come ;)
Watch especially from 6min onwards ......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk3SHzFQ5...
Carry on is all that i can tell you ......... Wish you had to show off this real bhakti towards the Nation in all aspects & not only here .... But sadly you will not do that ....
Your words are showing off your family related anger in mind....
See this Video of a real SARDAR !
Attitude As Part Of Character V Partner RANJIT SINGH
http://youtu.be/nStsLNl1ce4
Ranjit basic 1
http://youtu.be/ERKf-Sjw4FQ
Ranjit singh Basic 2
http://youtu.be/zk3SHzFQ5xg
The case of QNet, the Hong Kong-based controversial multi-level marketing (MLM) operator is taking new twists every day even as all top executives of the company in India decided to stay hidden citing a case filed with economics offences wing (EOW) of Mumbai police.
Interestingly, Suresh Thimiri, who is often touted as QNet India's chief executive and had denied any relationship with QNet or any of its representatives, owns the 'QNet' trademark in India through his company Transview Enterprises Pvt Ltd! See the images below obtained from Trade Marks Registry. Mr Thimiri's company has filed class 42 application for 'QNet' trademark in India.
As Moneylife reported, Mr Thimiri, in his anticipatory bail application filed on 19 August 2013, before additional session Judge DA Dholkia had said, "The applicant (Thimiri) does not hold any sort of relation neither with the Company (QNet) nor its representative (including Eswaran and Vihaan Direct Selling India Pvt Ltd) against whom the Complainthas been lodged by the respondents (Gurupreet Singh Anand) in Oshiwara Police Station." (See image below)
Transview Enterprises is an associate company of Vihaan Direct Selling that handles QNet's MLM operations in India since 14 April 2012. Before that QNet's Indian operations were controlled by QuestNet Enterprises (India) Pvt Ltd, a company registered at Chennai. QuestNet Enterprises was operating QNEI eStore, a platform from where IRs, which is how the investor-dealers of QNet are described, could place orders or buy products and also enrol new recruits. After launching Vihaan, the company asked all its old IRs to mandatorily register under the new business name in order to receive their commissions. Vihaan is a direct selling agent of QNet and had done large financial transactions with Mr Thimiri's company Transview. This made the EOW to freeze Transview's bank accounts in ING Vyasa Bank at Bengaluru.
Mr Thimiri, who in his anticipatory bail application had denied any relations with QNet and its representative, has ratified deals between Vihaan Direct Selling and his company, Transview Enterprise.
In his application before the Bombay High Court to defreeze bank accounts of Transview Enterprise, Mr Thimiri said, "The applicant (Mr Thimiri, director of Transview) is in the business of importing and manufacturing products such as Bio Discs, Chi Pendants, Nutriplus, Homepure, watches and various other products and sells the same to M/s Vihaan Direct Selling India Pvt Ltd."
These revelations may come as shocker to few die-hard independent representatives (IRs) of QNet as they strongly believe that all QNet products are imported! From where? Only the company knew about, as it is kept hidden from public view. Anyway, now with Mr Thimiri's clarification about 'manufacturing' of QNet products, these IRs will know the truth.
After perusing both the applications filed by Mr Thimiri before Courts, here are some facts...
1. Mr Thimiri accepted that Transview does not have any relations with Vihaan Direct Selling except supplier-purchaser relations.
2. Mr Thimiri's Transview Enterprise owns the QNet trademark (used exclusively by Vihaan) in India.
3. Vihaan Direct Selling is QNet Ltd's franchisee that carries the QNet brand name in India. After launching Vihaan, the company asked all its old IRs to mandatorily register under the new business name in order to receive their commissions.
4. Mr Thimiri has been named as accused in the report submitted by the EOW before the Sessions Court, Mumbai. It states: “The accused Suresh Thimiri has played active role in running the Money Circulation Scheme under the guise of investment opportunity and the income earned by the participants is based on enrolment of new members into the scheme.”
While Mr Thimiri is trying very hard to de-link himself from the probe, his own submissions are revealing truth. Vihaan Direct Selling carries 'QNet' brand in India that is registered trademark of Transview Enterprise of Mr Thimiri. The submission made by Mr Thimiri before the Courts only underline his links with QNet in India.
Another interesting aspect in the whole episode is all top officials (?) of QNet India do not want to reveal their identity and remain hidden. We repeatedly sent emails to the company's official PR agency and also some officials from its parent QI group.
We asked "Can you please tell us about Mr Suresh Thimiri, who is often labelled as India CEO of QNet on QNetIndia's Facebook page. Is Mr Thimiri the CEO of QNet in India? If not, then who heads QNet in India and who are the top management people? In addition, we would like to know the relations, if any, between QNet, Vihaan Direct Selling India Pvt Ltd and Transview Enterprises Pvt Ltd."
Here is the reply we received from the PR agency of QNet India...
"This is apropos our telecon now a while back and in furtherance to our earlier discussion which took place on the 30 August 2013 with regards to our client QNET, referred by you in your email. On your request, we reached out to our client again today, but they were of the same considered view that since the matter is still sub-judice, they would not like to give any comments for the time being. We will be happy to reach out to you should our client decide to make any statement to the media in the future."
To read the complete story with images please click this link http://www.moneylife.in/article/qnet-the...
The case of QNet, the Hong Kong-based controversial multi-level marketing (MLM) operator is taking new twists every day even as all top executives of the company in India decided to stay hidden citing a case filed with economics offences wing (EOW) of Mumbai police.
Interestingly, Suresh Thimiri, who is often touted as QNet India's chief executive and had denied any relationship with QNet or any of its representatives, owns the 'QNet' trademark in India through his company Transview Enterprises Pvt Ltd! See the images below obtained from Trade Marks Registry. Mr Thimiri's company has filed class 42 application for 'QNet' trademark in India.
As Moneylife reported, Mr Thimiri, in his anticipatory bail application filed on 19 August 2013, before additional session Judge DA Dholkia had said, "The applicant (Thimiri) does not hold any sort of relation neither with the Company (QNet) nor its representative (including Eswaran and Vihaan Direct Selling India Pvt Ltd) against whom the Complainthas been lodged by the respondents (Gurupreet Singh Anand) in Oshiwara Police Station." (See image below)
Transview Enterprises is an associate company of Vihaan Direct Selling that handles QNet's MLM operations in India since 14 April 2012. Before that QNet's Indian operations were controlled by QuestNet Enterprises (India) Pvt Ltd, a company registered at Chennai. QuestNet Enterprises was operating QNEI eStore, a platform from where IRs, which is how the investor-dealers of QNet are described, could place orders or buy products and also enrol new recruits. After launching Vihaan, the company asked all its old IRs to mandatorily register under the new business name in order to receive their commissions. Vihaan is a direct selling agent of QNet and had done large financial transactions with Mr Thimiri's company Transview. This made the EOW to freeze Transview's bank accounts in ING Vyasa Bank at Bengaluru.
Mr Thimiri, who in his anticipatory bail application had denied any relations with QNet and its representative, has ratified deals between Vihaan Direct Selling and his company, Transview Enterprise.
In his application before the Bombay High Court to defreeze bank accounts of Transview Enterprise, Mr Thimiri said, "The applicant (Mr Thimiri, director of Transview) is in the business of importing and manufacturing products such as Bio Discs, Chi Pendants, Nutriplus, Homepure, watches and various other products and sells the same to M/s Vihaan Direct Selling India Pvt Ltd."
These revelations may come as shocker to few die-hard independent representatives (IRs) of QNet as they strongly believe that all QNet products are imported! From where? Only the company knew about, as it is kept hidden from public view. Anyway, now with Mr Thimiri's clarification about 'manufacturing' of QNet products, these IRs will know the truth.
After perusing both the applications filed by Mr Thimiri before Courts, here are some facts...
1. Mr Thimiri accepted that Transview does not have any relations with Vihaan Direct Selling except supplier-purchaser relations.
2. Mr Thimiri's Transview Enterprise owns the QNet trademark (used exclusively by Vihaan) in India.
3. Vihaan Direct Selling is QNet Ltd's franchisee that carries the QNet brand name in India. After launching Vihaan, the company asked all its old IRs to mandatorily register under the new business name in order to receive their commissions.
4. Mr Thimiri has been named as accused in the report submitted by the EOW before the Sessions Court, Mumbai. It states: “The accused Suresh Thimiri has played active role in running the Money Circulation Scheme under the guise of investment opportunity and the income earned by the participants is based on enrolment of new members into the scheme.”
While Mr Thimiri is trying very hard to de-link himself from the probe, his own submissions are revealing truth. Vihaan Direct Selling carries 'QNet' brand in India that is registered trademark of Transview Enterprise of Mr Thimiri. The submission made by Mr Thimiri before the Courts only underline his links with QNet in India.
Another interesting aspect in the whole episode is all top officials (?) of QNet India do not want to reveal their identity and remain hidden. We repeatedly sent emails to the company's official PR agency and also some officials from its parent QI group.
We asked "Can you please tell us about Mr Suresh Thimiri, who is often labelled as India CEO of QNet on QNetIndia's Facebook page. Is Mr Thimiri the CEO of QNet in India? If not, then who heads QNet in India and who are the top management people? In addition, we would like to know the relations, if any, between QNet, Vihaan Direct Selling India Pvt Ltd and Transview Enterprises Pvt Ltd."
Here is the reply we received from the PR agency of QNet India...
"This is apropos our telecon now a while back and in furtherance to our earlier discussion which took place on the 30 August 2013 with regards to our client QNET, referred by you in your email. On your request, we reached out to our client again today, but they were of the same considered view that since the matter is still sub-judice, they would not like to give any comments for the time being. We will be happy to reach out to you should our client decide to make any statement to the media in the future."
To read the complete story with images please click this link http://www.moneylife.in/article/qnet-the...
http://kyunqnet.com/qnet/facts-on-suresh...
http://kyunqnet.com/qnet/old-outdated-la...
http://kyunqnet.com/qnet/breaking-news-j...
Is QNet a Scam or any kind of a Cult?
http://kyunqnet.com/qnet/is-qnet-a-scam-...
Carry on is all that i can tell you ......... Wish you had to show off this real bhakti towards the Nation in all aspects & not only here .... But sadly you will not do that ....
Your words are showing off your family related anger in mind....
See this Video of a real SARDAR !
Attitude As Part Of Character V Partner RANJIT SINGH
http://youtu.be/nStsLNl1ce4
Ranjit basic 1
http://youtu.be/ERKf-Sjw4FQ
Ranjit singh Basic 2
http://youtu.be/zk3SHzFQ5xg
Sadly a very sad coincidence, u n i share the same name. Do you think that over a million IR's cannot just log in & write their experiences on you ???
Ney ! ! ! & this time will show you bro ...
If you are a successful Entrepreneur can you please share how many Entrepreneurs have you created until now ???
(would like to see your videos too along with the ppl whom you have helped)
How many people ??
Nothing could be more cheaper from your end than talking about somebody's Father or Mother , Isn't it ??
Is this the character you display to society & your people .... I am sure by now many of your own known people also following this blog where you have proven that 97% ppl would love to remain as 97% only ...
Jealousy & Ego will never allow you or anyone come up.
Today just becoz someone in your own family has taken a call against your will to do this biz you are showing your agression of being a MAN , isn't it ???
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In your below writeup you are showing QNET, IRAN videos of 2010 where things have been rectified & the following videos will prove that to you .... So pls when you do your presentation , pls study completely ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gld1tE6v2...
http://kyunqnet.com/qnet/tag/qnet-ban/
Why Network Marketing? لماذا التسويق الشبكي -
http://youtu.be/vKuAThCn5kU
Network Marketing - The Truth
http://youtu.be/5DzI2M77rQ8
QNet & V Star Team
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgLO0IfEs...
Warren Buffet ~ Network Marketing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKxQbTcnW...
Robert Kiyosaki The Perfect Business | Network Marketing
http://youtu.be/rPTL-Ceo3iE
WATCH ALL THE ABOVE VIDEOS AS DO NOT THINK WRITE UPS WILL HELP HERE......
Happy Diwali Bro ! ! !
Below is the list of FATWAS issued against QNET/QUESTNET in India by the islamic scholars of Darul Uloom Deoband in India. I Hope the scamsters and cronies of QNET/Questnet now SHUT UP and STOP cheating the people of INDIA of their HARD EARNED MONEY.
Question: 1664 India
As-salaam alaikum My brother is doing net working business with a concept of e-commerce named Quest net .((http://www.questnet-india.com ) I wanted to know is this halal business It starts with A makes the investment of 30,000 by buying numismatic coins. Then A should make 2 members under him B & C ( each has to invest 30,000 ).Then B & C have to make 2 member under them 1, 2, 3, 4, , making the chain of 6 people. Once 6 members are done A will get Rs. 11,500/ once. As the group of 6 people is formed A keep getting 11,500 / for each group only once. The Company explains their business as below Here , all are customers of Quest, and buy directly from the company, not from a dealer/stockiest or distributor like in our traditional business and MLM company. When R buys a nokia phone from Quest with M?s reference, M gets a commission of Rs. 2000.When V buys a nokia phone from Quest with R?s reference, M & R both get a commission of Rs. 2000. When T buys a nokia phone from Quest with V?s reference, M, R & V all get a commission of Rs.2000. When A buys a nokia phone from Quest with T?s reference, M, R, V, T all get a commission of Rs. 2000. So on???.. . HERE WE HAVE THE SAME COMMISSION FOR ALL LEVELS. The numismatic coin is just an entry point into the business. Respected brothers I am very sorry to write such explainatory fatwa, Please mail the fatwa as soon as possible. Was salam
Answer: 1664 Nov 11,2007
(Fatwa: 1366/1218=B)
According to the detail provided by you about the nature of the questnet, it is not a halal (permissible) business; it is haram (impermissible) by many ways.
Allah (Subhana Wa Ta'ala) knows Best
Darul Ifta,
Darul Uloom Deoband
http://darulifta-deoband.org/showuservie...
Question: 20938 Saudi Arabia
I want to know about one business. Which is as following. Sir the business name is network marketing. The process is that I buy one product which is truely HALAL.e.g wathces, Jewellery etc. Aftre buying the product the company from where I bought the products asked me whether you want to become our business parter If I said Yes. Then I become the business partern of that company. And the money I paid to buy the product is my investment. Now if some more persons come to buy the product from this company through my refrece. Then company will give me commission let say 3% to 6% of each product. and the products are truely HALAL. And there is no cheating also. If I make the marketing of this company and asked the people to buy more product from this company then my i will get profit. If i stop then i will not getting anything. Please let me know whether this business is HALAL or not ... i shall be very thankfull to you if you email me this answer.
Answer: 20938 Mar 28,2010
(Fatwa: 548/L=186/tl=1431)
Network marketing involves cheating and invalid condition. Also, it involves earning profit by unlawful means; hence this business is unlawful according to Islam. It is not lawful to become a member of the company and receive profit.
Allah (Subhana Wa Ta'ala) knows Best
Darul Ifta,
Darul Uloom Deoband
http://darulifta-deoband.org/showuservie...
Question: 7573 United Arab Emirates
Dear Mufti, Asalamualaikum, I want to ask is network marketing is allowed in islam? Is it permisable to take the commission from the pepoles works whos is working below you?
Answer: 7573 Oct 23,2008
(Fatwa: 1152/993=L/1429)
Network marketing is neither based on partnership nor Muzarba (investment by one partner and work by other), rather it consists of many invalid conditions, and it is similar to lottery and gambling. Also, there is so much deception that in the greed of wealth it can trap the entire population in financial crisis. Therefore, it is Islamically unlawful to become its member or to take commission from the work of the persons below you while you do not have a share in their work.
Allah (Subhana Wa Ta'ala) knows Best
Darul Ifta,
Darul Uloom Deoband
http://darulifta-deoband.org/showuservie...
Question: 385 India
As-salaam alaikum
Right now I m doing business named RCM business it is MLM (Multi level Marketing) in this business we have to make twwo more distributor not more than that it is textile industry but now it also produces FMCG (Daily commodity goods) in this business the company gives us commission on the sale and on the purchasing goods from the company the concept of this business is that instead of giving money to the advertisers it gives commision to the distributor. As the business volume i.e. sales increases the percentile increses.But here it gives the commission from the sales.for eg if we buy a tooth paste for 32 rupees we get back 20% also as compared to other market product it is cheap. My question is that can we do this business.
Answer: 385 May 23,2007
(Fatwa: 118=117/D)
It is allowed to become member of RCM and take commission on that. Likewise, it will be allowed to sell items purchased thereof and receive benefit. But, participating in the network marketing system which requires adding two members in the network and getting benefit on the purchasing of these members, is unlawful. Also, there are some more evils in this scheme that involve interest and Bai-e-Fasid (transaction having any major falult). Therefore, it will not be allowed to participate it.
Allah (Subhana Wa Ta'ala) knows Best
Darul Ifta,
Darul Uloom Deoband
http://darulifta-deoband.org/showuservie...
Question: 31769 India
There are companies who asking online opinion in terms of survey and giving Rs 500 on each survey. For example: do u aware about samsung computers? r u using it? quality is good or not? etc... speakasia company wants 11000 initially then you will get 2 sureys in a week. Total 8 surveys in a month till 11 months. 4000 for one month, excluding taxes.. They are asking 11000 because there is a new way of advertisment called Network marketing also called multilevel marketing. If I bring Two new person to join speakasia company they will give me 1000 Rs on one pair and if they 2 of them bring another 2 and 2 persons then I will get 2000 as 2 pairs now that 4 persons bring 2-2 persons then as per 4 pair I will get 4000 and so on. dis makes pple to advertise abt d company. hence every person advertising it. which makes company to attract more and more person. company uses 11000 to rotate it to public in the form of advertising. Is this allwoed or only survey allowed?
Answer: 31769 May 02,2011
(Fatwa: 796/277/TL=1432)
Setting the condition of paying eleven thousand to get survey of the company is invalid condition, thus it is unlawful; therefore it is unlawful to join the companies and do surveys.
Allah (Subhana Wa Ta'ala) knows Best
Darul Ifta,
Darul Uloom Deoband
http://darulifta-deoband.org/showuservie...
Question: 43912 Egypt
I am willing to invest money with a company called star capital finance Ltd. which basically does the following: The company is based in New Zealand. The investor (myself) creates an account and debits an amount of money to invest with (for example $10000), the company invests these funds in daily transactions and gives back the profits on daily basis in my account. There is no guaranteed amount for profit or loss (this is variable hence the funds are added to my account after each transaction (daily) and I can withdraw my funds totally anytime with no restrictions. The company uses the funds to invest in 3 categories: (1) Gold. (2) Real Estate. (3) Foreign Exchange. Is participating in this Shariah compliant or not?
Answer: 43912 Feb 04,2013
(Fatwa: 373/274/D=1434)
You wrote where the company invests but you did not write what is the method of its business? In the case when company gives you profit on daily basis, if it is the method of network marketing then it is not lawful as the business item is sold ahead without taking it into possession which is not lawful as per hadith. Rather sometime there is no existence of business item and only verbal sale takes place and profit and loss is also done which is not lawful. Hence it is not lawful to invest in it. If the method of the company is something else then you should write it in detail.
Allah (Subhana Wa Ta'ala) knows Best
Darul Ifta,
Darul Uloom Deoband
http://darulifta-deoband.org/showuservie...
I Hope the scamsters and cronies of QNET/Questnet now SHUT UP and STOP cheating the people of INDIA of their HARD EARNED MONEY.
In my answers, I will try and explain whatever little I know about Qnet. I have a close friend having been tricked into becoming a member and also got know a few other people. Since I was very curious about the Qnet Scam I researched and got my answers. Its a pyramid scheme in the disguise of an MLM business model.
Q1. What is the Business of Qnet?
The business of Qnet is to sell the epic dream of 'Work for a couple of years and earn forever, doing nothing'. Needless to say, there are millions of people across the world, who buy into this dream.
To become a Qnet member you have to buy products between INR 40K -120K. Qnet sells its products at crazy margins, for eg my friend bought their bestselling product A Healing Biodisc 2for INR 22,000. In reality, it is just a 3 Inch glass disc that can be procured from China for nothing more than INR 100.
The gross margin is whopping 21900%.
Q2. What is the greatness in products that Qnet sells?
The greatness of a Qnet product is that it contains magic. Or atleast a promise of magic.
And most magic is perceived rather than reality. How do you know if a health shake you just drank increased your immunity or not. The Qnet members who buy these products believe in them because THEY WANT to believe in them.
I will give you a few examples. The top 3 categories for Qnet are Energy, Nutrition and Personal Care.
A Qnet biodisc for INR 22K is supposed you make you feel fresh. There is no measurable/ visible effect of freshness. You might as well buy a Tibetan ring for INR 250 that also claims to make you feel fresh.
Similarly Qnet's Nutriplus protein powder costs INR 4000 and improves immunity and builds Muscle. But one can also buy a horlicks for the same and it costs only 150 bucks.
You get the drift.
Q3. Who makes these products that Qnet sells and what is the relationship of Qnet the Company and the manufacturers? Is it Vendor - Principal, Self Manufactured or a combination of Both?
It’s a combination of both.
In my discussions with one of the estranged senior member I got to know that most of their products are manufactured or sourced from China. A few products are sourced from other countries as well.
For their travel package product they have a couple of self owned resorts in Thailand.
Q4. What margins are possible to be earned on such products? Answer with world examples of similar industries and quote some publicly available data.
Product level gross margins are upwards of 10000% in most products.
At a company level the cost structure looks like follows
As a percentage of revenues, 20% are operating expenses. MLM companies are heavy on marketing and sponsorships, international and local seminar with celebrities, promotions, IT, Trainings etc. For eg Qnet is associated with F1, Donates to Unesco, Is the sponsor of Indian Davios cup team etc.
40% is distributed as commissions between the 'Upchain' members. All those people who have led to this member are paid. People higher in the chain get paid less per transaction but will have higher cumulative earnings and vice versa. Qnet follows a MLM model known as Binary Tree Structure. The commission models can be disguised in many forms but broadly the payouts remain the same.
Remaining 40% is operating profit of the company (Qnet)
These percentages (20:40:40) differ for different companies. Qnet chooses to spend more money on marketing and promotions to increase its member network. With time it is becoming increasingly difficult for MLM companies to make members. A decade back a large MLM company could have done with (10:30:60) model.
ROIs, ofcourse are crazy since this business is not capital intensive. Its scam intensive :)
I am surprised on how media and government are quiet on such large scale scams.
The product level margins are as follows
A Biodisc2 Costs, INR 100 and selss for INR 22,000
A Nutriplus costs INR 4000, comparable Horlicks costs INR 150
Qnet will debate that their product has some magic that horlicks does not have , but it’s just sales talk.
Q5. How can these margins be remunerative by sharing across multiple levels of people? If margins are finite, how can sharing be infinite? (It is possible
A successful binary tree model MLM company can reach 1 million members in 24-28 layers and 10 million members in 30-34 layers.
If a company has say 10 million members, the commission from a new transaction will be divided between 30-40 members in the Upline. Its infinite only in theory.The commission models can be disguised in many forms but broadly the payouts remain the same
Before starting Qnet promoters used to run a company called Goldquest , which is a known scam and is now banned in many countries. Most MLM companies have a shelf life of 5-10 years. Once the pace of signing up new members becomes really slow, the promoters will start a new company. They can either wind up the current company or let it linger on for sometime.
After winding up, promoters usually restart with a new product and new name. Their top distributors move with top 3-5 layers of downline to the new company. This is exactly what has happened with Glodquest promoters started Qnet.
I also want to touch upon the phenomenon of Qnet members trying to make a new member. We all have been approached by some friend/ relative for some MLM company or the other. An active MLM member does not look at his relationships as relatives and friends, he only starts looking at them as downlines. He also manages to convince a few only to realise a few months/ years later that he has lost/ strained that valuable relationship.A newbie however is different, he is still trying to understand the people and business and once he realises the truth drops out of the chain. 50% of the MLM members become inactive in the first year itself.
The members do not themselves believe that they are doing something wrong because of 2 reasons. Firstly they don’t know that they are part of larger scam and take it to be genuine business proposition. Secondly even if they know about the scam they don’t mind since they see a few senior members making a lot of money. The senior members are ‘demi god’ figures in the network. They are idolised and spoken about in every conference. What members fail to realise is that big money is only made by people who are way higher up in the chain and this money will keep flowing in to them only for a few years till that scam survives. After a few years these distributors will move along with their key team to another company and start rebuilding their downlines.
So the mantra is that if someone really wants to make money from the MLM scam, they need to ensure that they are early members of the chain in their country, Milk the cow and then move on to the next new company and product.
This can only be avoided by an active media and government. MLM is highly regulated in western countries and hence you will see that most fraud MLM companies are active in Asia/ MENA region.
6. Why can’t Qnet sell its great products (with its great margins like Walmart) and become the biggest retailer in the world?
Please refer answer 2.
There is no real need for these products, they are bought not for their benefits but to as a ticket to the evil /epic dream.
Ans 7) In the disguise of empowering people, Qnet only fools them. Even the acts of good faith are done to gain publicity.
Ans 8) In last decade or two network marketing has become an evil word, the mention of the same itself will make people run away. The Qnet members are trained not to give any indication of the business early on to a prospect. The real sales pitch only comes from a senior member in a face to face meeting.
Ans 9) Most fraud MLM companies sell dubious products at obscene prices. These products can only be sold by push that comes naturally in Pester Marketing. Many members buy a product simple because someone who is dear to them has harassed them enough to buy it. These members are not even looking at this buying to become a part of the network. The only other people who buy these product for logical reasons are members looking for further income.
Ans 10) I think his article answers your question Page on http://www.howstuffworks.com/pyramid-sch....
Author Supreet Singh
In my answers, I will try and explain whatever little I know about Qnet. I have a close friend having been tricked into becoming a member and also got know a few other people. Since I was very curious about the Qnet Scam I researched and got my answers. Its a pyramid scheme in the disguise of an MLM business model.
Q1. What is the Business of Qnet?
The business of Qnet is to sell the epic dream of 'Work for a couple of years and earn forever, doing nothing'. Needless to say, there are millions of people across the world, who buy into this dream.
To become a Qnet member you have to buy products between INR 40K -120K. Qnet sells its products at crazy margins, for eg my friend bought their bestselling product A Healing Biodisc 2for INR 22,000. In reality, it is just a 3 Inch glass disc that can be procured from China for nothing more than INR 100.
The gross margin is whopping 21900%.
Q2. What is the greatness in products that Qnet sells?
The greatness of a Qnet product is that it contains magic. Or atleast a promise of magic.
And most magic is perceived rather than reality. How do you know if a health shake you just drank increased your immunity or not. The Qnet members who buy these products believe in them because THEY WANT to believe in them.
I will give you a few examples. The top 3 categories for Qnet are Energy, Nutrition and Personal Care.
A Qnet biodisc for INR 22K is supposed you make you feel fresh. There is no measurable/ visible effect of freshness. You might as well buy a Tibetan ring for INR 250 that also claims to make you feel fresh.
Similarly Qnet's Nutriplus protein powder costs INR 4000 and improves immunity and builds Muscle. But one can also buy a horlicks for the same and it costs only 150 bucks.
You get the drift.
Q3. Who makes these products that Qnet sells and what is the relationship of Qnet the Company and the manufacturers? Is it Vendor - Principal, Self Manufactured or a combination of Both?
It’s a combination of both.
In my discussions with one of the estranged senior member I got to know that most of their products are manufactured or sourced from China. A few products are sourced from other countries as well.
For their travel package product they have a couple of self owned resorts in Thailand.
Q4. What margins are possible to be earned on such products? Answer with world examples of similar industries and quote some publicly available data.
Product level gross margins are upwards of 10000% in most products.
At a company level the cost structure looks like follows
As a percentage of revenues, 20% are operating expenses. MLM companies are heavy on marketing and sponsorships, international and local seminar with celebrities, promotions, IT, Trainings etc. For eg Qnet is associated with F1, Donates to Unesco, Is the sponsor of Indian Davios cup team etc.
40% is distributed as commissions between the 'Upchain' members. All those people who have led to this member are paid. People higher in the chain get paid less per transaction but will have higher cumulative earnings and vice versa. Qnet follows a MLM model known as Binary Tree Structure. The commission models can be disguised in many forms but broadly the payouts remain the same.
Remaining 40% is operating profit of the company (Qnet)
These percentages (20:40:40) differ for different companies. Qnet chooses to spend more money on marketing and promotions to increase its member network. With time it is becoming increasingly difficult for MLM companies to make members. A decade back a large MLM company could have done with (10:30:60) model.
ROIs, ofcourse are crazy since this business is not capital intensive. Its scam intensive :)
I am surprised on how media and government are quiet on such large scale scams.
The product level margins are as follows
A Biodisc2 Costs, INR 100 and selss for INR 22,000
A Nutriplus costs INR 4000, comparable Horlicks costs INR 150
Qnet will debate that their product has some magic that horlicks does not have , but it’s just sales talk.
Q5. How can these margins be remunerative by sharing across multiple levels of people? If margins are finite, how can sharing be infinite? (It is possible
A successful binary tree model MLM company can reach 1 million members in 24-28 layers and 10 million members in 30-34 layers.
If a company has say 10 million members, the commission from a new transaction will be divided between 30-40 members in the Upline. Its infinite only in theory.The commission models can be disguised in many forms but broadly the payouts remain the same
Before starting Qnet promoters used to run a company called Goldquest , which is a known scam and is now banned in many countries. Most MLM companies have a shelf life of 5-10 years. Once the pace of signing up new members becomes really slow, the promoters will start a new company. They can either wind up the current company or let it linger on for sometime.
After winding up, promoters usually restart with a new product and new name. Their top distributors move with top 3-5 layers of downline to the new company. This is exactly what has happened with Glodquest promoters started Qnet.
I also want to touch upon the phenomenon of Qnet members trying to make a new member. We all have been approached by some friend/ relative for some MLM company or the other. An active MLM member does not look at his relationships as relatives and friends, he only starts looking at them as downlines. He also manages to convince a few only to realise a few months/ years later that he has lost/ strained that valuable relationship.A newbie however is different, he is still trying to understand the people and business and once he realises the truth drops out of the chain. 50% of the MLM members become inactive in the first year itself.
The members do not themselves believe that they are doing something wrong because of 2 reasons. Firstly they don’t know that they are part of larger scam and take it to be genuine business proposition. Secondly even if they know about the scam they don’t mind since they see a few senior members making a lot of money. The senior members are ‘demi god’ figures in the network. They are idolised and spoken about in every conference. What members fail to realise is that big money is only made by people who are way higher up in the chain and this money will keep flowing in to them only for a few years till that scam survives. After a few years these distributors will move along with their key team to another company and start rebuilding their downlines.
So the mantra is that if someone really wants to make money from the MLM scam, they need to ensure that they are early members of the chain in their country, Milk the cow and then move on to the next new company and product.
This can only be avoided by an active media and government. MLM is highly regulated in western countries and hence you will see that most fraud MLM companies are active in Asia/ MENA region.
6. Why can’t Qnet sell its great products (with its great margins like Walmart) and become the biggest retailer in the world?
Please refer answer 2.
There is no real need for these products, they are bought not for their benefits but to as a ticket to the evil /epic dream.
Ans 7) In the disguise of empowering people, Qnet only fools them. Even the acts of good faith are done to gain publicity.
Ans 8) In last decade or two network marketing has become an evil word, the mention of the same itself will make people run away. The Qnet members are trained not to give any indication of the business early on to a prospect. The real sales pitch only comes from a senior member in a face to face meeting.
Ans 9) Most fraud MLM companies sell dubious products at obscene prices. These products can only be sold by push that comes naturally in Pester Marketing. Many members buy a product simple because someone who is dear to them has harassed them enough to buy it. These members are not even looking at this buying to become a part of the network. The only other people who buy these product for logical reasons are members looking for further income.
Ans 10) I think his article answers your question Page on http://www.howstuffworks.com/pyramid-sch....
Author Supreet Singh
Some IR asked this question emphasizing again and again on the word “HALAL PRODUCTS” but the council answering this question sees through the EVIL DESIGN and pronounces this business of “NETWORK MARKETING USING WATCHES AND JEWELLERY AS HARAM”.
Question: 20938
Saudi Arabia
I want to know about one business. Which is as following. Sir the business name is network marketing. The process is that I buy one product which is truely HALAL.e.g wathces, Jewellery etc. Aftre buying the product the company from where I bought the products asked me whether you want to become our business parter If I said Yes. Then I become the business partern of that company. And the money I paid to buy the product is my investment. Now if some more persons come to buy the product from this company through my refrece. Then company will give me commission let say 3% to 6% of each product. and the products are truely HALAL. And there is no cheating also. If I make the marketing of this company and asked the people to buy more product from this company then my i will get profit. If i stop then i will not getting anything. Please let me know whether this business is HALAL or not ... i shall be very thankfull to you if you email me this answer.
Answer: 20938
Mar 28,2010
(Fatwa: 548/L=186/tl=1431)
Network marketing involves cheating and invalid condition. Also, it involves earning profit by unlawful means; hence this business is unlawful according to Islam. It is not lawful to become a member of the company and receive profit.
Allah (Subhana Wa Ta'ala) knows Best
Darul Ifta,
Darul Uloom Deoband
The FATWA can be seen here http://darulifta-deoband.org/showuservie...
Some IR asked this question emphasizing again and again on the word “HALAL PRODUCTS” but the council answering this question sees through the EVIL DESIGN and pronounces this business of “NETWORK MARKETING USING WATCHES AND JEWELLERY AS HARAM”.
Question: 20938
Saudi Arabia
I want to know about one business. Which is as following. Sir the business name is network marketing. The process is that I buy one product which is truely HALAL.e.g wathces, Jewellery etc. Aftre buying the product the company from where I bought the products asked me whether you want to become our business parter If I said Yes. Then I become the business partern of that company. And the money I paid to buy the product is my investment. Now if some more persons come to buy the product from this company through my refrece. Then company will give me commission let say 3% to 6% of each product. and the products are truely HALAL. And there is no cheating also. If I make the marketing of this company and asked the people to buy more product from this company then my i will get profit. If i stop then i will not getting anything. Please let me know whether this business is HALAL or not ... i shall be very thankfull to you if you email me this answer.
Answer: 20938
Mar 28,2010
(Fatwa: 548/L=186/tl=1431)
Network marketing involves cheating and invalid condition. Also, it involves earning profit by unlawful means; hence this business is unlawful according to Islam. It is not lawful to become a member of the company and receive profit.
Allah (Subhana Wa Ta'ala) knows Best
Darul Ifta,
Darul Uloom Deoband
The FATWA can be seen here http://darulifta-deoband.org/showuservie...
QNET ReVCon UAE 2013 On Dubai TV
QNET's recent ReVCON Dubai UAE Sep 2013 on Dubai TV's "Good Morning, My Country" Show.
http://youtu.be/vbvh2DhVYVc
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Revcon Dubai 2013: Raise The Bar Higher
http://youtu.be/baQkw-rwAAs
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V-CON 2013 DIAMONDS (malaysia)
http://youtu.be/mn9R6N9MPaY
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This is the real truth where a real LEADER Development happens..
ISB-Inservice
Inservice Brotherhood
http://youtu.be/BhlAhY5n9xM
http://youtu.be/hiOmODW7ilM
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England v Holland Match, supported by QNET at Wembley stadium, UK (This is also a cheat na ??)
http://youtu.be/Sk6zivwiH7E
Grrr... This is also a Cheat Na ?? Comon Wake up & smell the Coffee La ....
Iodex Malo aur Kaam pe Lago ! !
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How can ppl relate themselves with Bhagat Singh or any legendry ????
15-17 saal padhai karke, Naukri pe jaakey kisi aur ka Naukar ban ke kya Mila ??
Babaji ka Thullu !!!
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Even today average salary of an Engineer in India is not more than Rs. 15000/- ......... Kya maa baap ne bas itne chuttey paise kamane ke liye padhaya tha ???
2choices
1 )ask them their dreams .... n feel ashamed of not being able to fulfil it
2) Work your guts out & be an Entrepreneur
Choice is yours ! ! !
Some IR asked this question emphasizing again and again on the word “HALAL PRODUCTS” but the council answering this question sees through the EVIL DESIGN and pronounces this business of “NETWORK MARKETING USING WATCHES AND JEWELLERY AS HARAM”.
Question: 20938
Saudi Arabia
I want to know about one business. Which is as following. Sir the business name is network marketing. The process is that I buy one product which is truely HALAL.e.g wathces, Jewellery etc. Aftre buying the product the company from where I bought the products asked me whether you want to become our business parter If I said Yes. Then I become the business partern of that company. And the money I paid to buy the product is my investment. Now if some more persons come to buy the product from this company through my refrece. Then company will give me commission let say 3% to 6% of each product. and the products are truely HALAL. And there is no cheating also. If I make the marketing of this company and asked the people to buy more product from this company then my i will get profit. If i stop then i will not getting anything. Please let me know whether this business is HALAL or not ... i shall be very thankfull to you if you email me this answer.
Answer: 20938
Mar 28,2010
(Fatwa: 548/L=186/tl=1431)
Network marketing involves cheating and invalid condition. Also, it involves earning profit by unlawful means; hence this business is unlawful according to Islam. It is not lawful to become a member of the company and receive profit.
Allah (Subhana Wa Ta'ala) knows Best
Darul Ifta,
Darul Uloom Deoband
The FATWA can be seen here http://darulifta-deoband.org/showuservie...
In my answers, I will try and explain whatever little I know about Qnet. I have a close friend having been tricked into becoming a member and also got know a few other people. Since I was very curious about the Qnet Scam I researched and got my answers. Its a pyramid scheme in the disguise of an MLM business model.
Q1. What is the Business of Qnet?
The business of Qnet is to sell the epic dream of 'Work for a couple of years and earn forever, doing nothing'. Needless to say, there are millions of people across the world, who buy into this dream.
To become a Qnet member you have to buy products between INR 40K -120K. Qnet sells its products at crazy margins, for eg my friend bought their bestselling product A Healing Biodisc 2for INR 22,000. In reality, it is just a 3 Inch glass disc that can be procured from China for nothing more than INR 100.
The gross margin is whopping 21900%.
Q2. What is the greatness in products that Qnet sells?
The greatness of a Qnet product is that it contains magic. Or atleast a promise of magic.
And most magic is perceived rather than reality. How do you know if a health shake you just drank increased your immunity or not. The Qnet members who buy these products believe in them because THEY WANT to believe in them.
I will give you a few examples. The top 3 categories for Qnet are Energy, Nutrition and Personal Care.
A Qnet biodisc for INR 22K is supposed you make you feel fresh. There is no measurable/ visible effect of freshness. You might as well buy a Tibetan ring for INR 250 that also claims to make you feel fresh.
Similarly Qnet's Nutriplus protein powder costs INR 4000 and improves immunity and builds Muscle. But one can also buy a horlicks for the same and it costs only 150 bucks.
You get the drift.
Q3. Who makes these products that Qnet sells and what is the relationship of Qnet the Company and the manufacturers? Is it Vendor - Principal, Self Manufactured or a combination of Both?
It’s a combination of both.
In my discussions with one of the estranged senior member I got to know that most of their products are manufactured or sourced from China. A few products are sourced from other countries as well.
For their travel package product they have a couple of self owned resorts in Thailand.
Q4. What margins are possible to be earned on such products? Answer with world examples of similar industries and quote some publicly available data.
Product level gross margins are upwards of 10000% in most products.
At a company level the cost structure looks like follows
As a percentage of revenues, 20% are operating expenses. MLM companies are heavy on marketing and sponsorships, international and local seminar with celebrities, promotions, IT, Trainings etc. For eg Qnet is associated with F1, Donates to Unesco, Is the sponsor of Indian Davios cup team etc.
40% is distributed as commissions between the 'Upchain' members. All those people who have led to this member are paid. People higher in the chain get paid less per transaction but will have higher cumulative earnings and vice versa. Qnet follows a MLM model known as Binary Tree Structure. The commission models can be disguised in many forms but broadly the payouts remain the same.
Remaining 40% is operating profit of the company (Qnet)
These percentages (20:40:40) differ for different companies. Qnet chooses to spend more money on marketing and promotions to increase its member network. With time it is becoming increasingly difficult for MLM companies to make members. A decade back a large MLM company could have done with (10:30:60) model.
ROIs, ofcourse are crazy since this business is not capital intensive. Its scam intensive :)
I am surprised on how media and government are quiet on such large scale scams.
The product level margins are as follows
A Biodisc2 Costs, INR 100 and selss for INR 22,000
A Nutriplus costs INR 4000, comparable Horlicks costs INR 150
Qnet will debate that their product has some magic that horlicks does not have , but it’s just sales talk.
Q5. How can these margins be remunerative by sharing across multiple levels of people? If margins are finite, how can sharing be infinite? (It is possible
A successful binary tree model MLM company can reach 1 million members in 24-28 layers and 10 million members in 30-34 layers.
If a company has say 10 million members, the commission from a new transaction will be divided between 30-40 members in the Upline. Its infinite only in theory.The commission models can be disguised in many forms but broadly the payouts remain the same
Before starting Qnet promoters used to run a company called Goldquest , which is a known scam and is now banned in many countries. Most MLM companies have a shelf life of 5-10 years. Once the pace of signing up new members becomes really slow, the promoters will start a new company. They can either wind up the current company or let it linger on for sometime.
After winding up, promoters usually restart with a new product and new name. Their top distributors move with top 3-5 layers of downline to the new company. This is exactly what has happened with Glodquest promoters started Qnet.
I also want to touch upon the phenomenon of Qnet members trying to make a new member. We all have been approached by some friend/ relative for some MLM company or the other. An active MLM member does not look at his relationships as relatives and friends, he only starts looking at them as downlines. He also manages to convince a few only to realise a few months/ years later that he has lost/ strained that valuable relationship.A newbie however is different, he is still trying to understand the people and business and once he realises the truth drops out of the chain. 50% of the MLM members become inactive in the first year itself.
The members do not themselves believe that they are doing something wrong because of 2 reasons. Firstly they don’t know that they are part of larger scam and take it to be genuine business proposition. Secondly even if they know about the scam they don’t mind since they see a few senior members making a lot of money. The senior members are ‘demi god’ figures in the network. They are idolised and spoken about in every conference. What members fail to realise is that big money is only made by people who are way higher up in the chain and this money will keep flowing in to them only for a few years till that scam survives. After a few years these distributors will move along with their key team to another company and start rebuilding their downlines.
So the mantra is that if someone really wants to make money from the MLM scam, they need to ensure that they are early members of the chain in their country, Milk the cow and then move on to the next new company and product.
This can only be avoided by an active media and government. MLM is highly regulated in western countries and hence you will see that most fraud MLM companies are active in Asia/ MENA region.
6. Why can’t Qnet sell its great products (with its great margins like Walmart) and become the biggest retailer in the world?
Please refer answer 2.
There is no real need for these products, they are bought not for their benefits but to as a ticket to the evil /epic dream.
Ans 7) In the disguise of empowering people, Qnet only fools them. Even the acts of good faith are done to gain publicity.
Ans 8) In last decade or two network marketing has become an evil word, the mention of the same itself will make people run away. The Qnet members are trained not to give any indication of the business early on to a prospect. The real sales pitch only comes from a senior member in a face to face meeting.
Ans 9) Most fraud MLM companies sell dubious products at obscene prices. These products can only be sold by push that comes naturally in Pester Marketing. Many members buy a product simple because someone who is dear to them has harassed them enough to buy it. These members are not even looking at this buying to become a part of the network. The only other people who buy these product for logical reasons are members looking for further income.
Ans 10) I think his article answers your question Page on http://www.howstuffworks.com/pyramid-sch...
Author Supreet Singh http://www.quora.com/What-is-the-Busines...
SHAME on Pathman and his GANG..what cheaters and scamsters
https://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L7gIqpLG...
The Dubai TV video you posted is raw footage and when I see the whole video it seems it was never BROADCAST it is a private video or at best a video shot at the EVENT but NEVER broadcast as there are no news anchors, no Tv Logos nothing….it just a RAW footage shot at the event and posted by you all…as FAKE as your FAKE COMPANY…
Here are the real FACTS about the SCAM called QNET…
The Anti QNET project…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcQkqOsAp....
Discussion on Pyramid Scheme and its devastating financial carnage in Iran.
Press TV-Iran Today-The Pyramidal Mirage -07-16-2010(Part1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nInPFJIbv....
Press TV-Iran Today-The Pyramidal Mirage -07-16-2010(Part2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnBbHv9WL....
Press TV-Iran Today-The Pyramidal Mirage -07-16-2010(Part3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ3ybzhSk....
Now the same SCAM is being repeated in India…I will fight it the BEST I can…
Raise The Bar Higher is the same SHIT REPACKAGED, that’s what you SCAM company does year after year…REPACKAGE THE SAME SHIT !!
Oh YES, we love blasting the WE-Con, the yearly events to fool and brain wash poor people from all over the world, while QNET cons people by selling them No-Value goods, the V Network CONS them by selling tickets to the stupid WE-Cons.
Diamonds AKA(also known as) Cheaters, the people who have cheated their own and near dear.
ISB oh yea yea yea….one more clone of the WE-Con train more bakras to cheat others..
Putting up advertisements in a football match makes QNET LEGIT? In the first place your company claims to be a DIRECT SELLING COMPANY.. DIRECT SELLING COMPANY are supposed to save money because they do not advertise and that’s what you tell to others at the time of prospecting…so yes your lies are exposed again…what CRAP..if you spend HEAVILY of advertising, have brand ambassadors how does that make you a DIRECT SELLING COMPANY?
YES WAKE UP AND SMELL THE SHIT!
Bio Shit (oops I meant Disc) Mallo aur KAAM par Lago…jakey F2 & Rule 3 Karo !!
YES we have Bhagat Singh in our heart and souls not unlike TRAITORS like you, TUM LOGON KO THO APNA NAAM TAK NAHI PATA…DADDY KA PATA HAI? YA BARISTA & CCD PAR PAIDA HUWEY THIE?
Dusrey ki salary gintey ho..apna BOLO? You all are failures in real life who could not excel in job or business and hence take up this cheating business called QNET to make a QUICK BUCK by cheating on your own near and dear!!
Yes GO SELL DREAMS and cheat people…I am a successful Entrepreneur myself without cheating and scamming any one like you…
Mummy ko jakey apna asli naam puch lena…or I will assume u are someone who does not have a real name….and yea…ask for your father’s name also…
I thank every one from the bottom of my heart for the support they have given me in the last two months by providing all kinds of internal information needed to bring this giant SCAM called QNET down.
Friends we need to take this fight now to the NEXT LEVEL. We need information such as names,email ids and telephones numbers of people who have enrolled in this pyramid scheme. Please email me all details on [email protected] and help the cause!!
Regards
Gurupreet
After Suresh Thimri more people planning to "disown" QNET ???
Facebook profiles of High profile net workers of QNET start going OFFLINE ;)
facebook profiles of Sachin gupta and Kavita Sugandh go OFFLINE...how would that HELP?
Heard of BACKUPS??? Well we been maintaingn BACKUPS since months now...enjoy..cheers
S U P R E M E C O U R T O F I N D I A
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
Petition(s) for Special Leave to Appeal (Crl) No(s).6618/2013
(From the judgement and order dated 15/02/2013 in CRLRC No.1477/2012
of The HIGH COURT OF MADRAS)
PUSHPAM Petitioner(s)
VERSUS
STATE REP BY INSPECTOR OF POLICE Respondent(s)
(With appln(s) for ex-parte stay and office report)
Date: 26/08/2013 This Petition was called on for hearing today.
CORAM :
HON'BLE THE CHIEF JUSTICE
HON'BLE MRS. JUSTICE RANJANA PRAKASH DESAI
HON'BLE MR. JUSTICE RANJAN GOGOI
For Petitioner(s) Mr. Altaf Ahmed, Sr. Adv.
Mr. R. Shunmughasundaram, Sr. Adv.
Mr. N. Chandrasekharan, Adv.
Mr. V.G. Pragasam, AOR
Mr. S.J. Aristotle, Adv.
Mr. S. Prabu Ramasubramanian, Adv.
For Respondent(s)
UPON hearing counsel the Court made the following
O R D E R
Heard learned senior counsel for the petitioner and
perused the relevant material.
We do not find any legal and valid ground for
interference. The special leave petition is dismissed.
(Chetan Kumar)
Court Master
(Savita Sainani)
Court Master
The investigation has deemed QNet a veiled Ponzi scheme that poses as a network marketing company.
The whole story and QNet's video response below.
http://qnetexposed.com/domino-effect-kaz...
I will do my best and see to it that this money does not ever reach ABSCONDING ACCUSED Vijay Easwaran.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtbLJCzV9...
We love you FATO :)
https://getsatisfaction.com/qnet/topics
Keep up the good work !!
Q restarting SYSTEM/brain washing seminar to clean out common sense from the minds of the Jay and Veeru,s in Bangalore…but Q got no GUTS..so NO PLANS will be showed..oh man we are watching every step, tomorrow we meet 10.30 AM Sharp @ Hotel Bangalore International…
yes we are coming…Q calls…oh common In-Service do some PLANS also for the camera. ..
Spl Request do show us your world BEST PLAN people…The camera loves your PLANS :P
Hey we will not miss you sh1pr@, 1shit p@l $ingh b@nga ;)
Q Say CHEESE!!!!!!!!!!!
Over the past decade, with innumerable sources labeling QNET a pyramid scheme [A][B][C][D][E][F][G] , it’s simply astonishing to see such a thinly veiled scam continue to fleece millions of people of their hard earned savings. While some countries have succeeded in completely ridding their land of this gargantuan pile of bullshit, a few others have merely managed to scoop it up and toss it out only to have it return after a brief hiatus, donning a new avatar.
The complete article can be read here.. http://qnetexposed.com/?p=14
catch them on facebook and you can see for yourself ... most of these idiots share their locations and workshop photos publicly ...
QNET is a proven pyramid scheme. Such schemes are banned in India. However, they have managed to evade the law till date, due to various loopholes and have stayed afloat. Even after 6 accounts being frozen, business still continues.
If you have joined this game willingly ... sorry hard luck ...
But if you have joined this game without being informed and you feel that your money is stuck now then the following shall be of some value to you
[email protected] or you can call Gurpreet on 7498063701. In case of no answer on call, please SMS us.
You can also send in your complaints in writing or visit personally and meet Mr.Kapase – Investigating Officer regarding QNET SCAM.
Please write to:-
Mr.Kapase – Investigating officer (QNET)
Economic Offences Wing -3
Crime Branch, Mumbai Police
Police Commissioner's Office
Opposite Crawford Market
D N Road, Fort
Mumbai 400 001
If you feel that getting your money back is important then the above seems to be the only recourse (QNET normally does not refund after a week from the date of purchase as commissions against your purchase have been paid to your uplines - this is known as the cooling period).
Choice is yours - after all it is your money ... however while trying to recover your investment ... if you get reported then .... you have limited options ...
If you have been cheated and lost money in QNET please conact by email on [email protected] or you can call me on 7498063701. In case no answer on call, please SMS us.
You can also send in your complaints in writing or visit personally and meet Mr.Kapase – Investigating Officer regarding QNET SCAM.
Please write to:-
Mr.Kapase – Investigating officer (QNET)
Economic Offences Wing -3
Crime Branch, Mumbai Police
Police Commissioner's Office
Opposite Crawford Market
D N Road, Fort
Mumbai 400 001
Friends please stand up for the cause and kick this SCAM out of our country again. Lets get this shut for the third time. Be The CHANGE…STOP the SCAM.
Regards
Gurupreet
Step by Step the IR,s are trained on how to cheat common gullible people of their hard earned money and STEP by STEP we reveal their cunning schemes and techniques. Heat felt thanks to the “TEAM” for the content and for putting all together in such a beautiful way. I owe you guys..Thanks again.
DECEPTIVE MARKETING: QNET’S LIES EXPOSED
http://qnetexposed.com/?p=111
The Lies
1. Everyone is your prospect!
http://qnetexposed.com/?p=111&page=2
2. This isn’t selling; we just share this amazing business opportunity.
http://qnetexposed.com/?p=111&page=3
3. Anyone can do this!
http://qnetexposed.com/?p=111&page=4
4. We’ll build your business for you.
http://qnetexposed.com/?p=111&page=5
5. We have the best product ever!
http://qnetexposed.com/?p=111&page=6
6. You don’t have faith.
http://qnetexposed.com/?p=111&page=7
7. It’s a Completely Ethical Business.
http://qnetexposed.com/?p=111&page=8
Please help us spread the word every one.
Regards
Gurupreet
Six more to come...and then team out ;)
Michael feriera..
Dev Wadhani
Arti Dighe
Sharfun Shaikh
Sanjeev Mehrotra
Sachin Gupta
Hope CHIEF has given enough pointers to avoid being nailed by the authorities...
You can RUN ..but you can not HIDE.. when are you guys coming back..
Mother Land calls...
Below is the posting found on one of the blogs that generates max hits for qnet india web site..SHAME AGAIN...SHAME on YOU michael ferreira...
michael ferreira 11 months ago
At the age of 67, I had achieved all I set out to do and was considered eminently successful by the usual parameters – beautiful home, a wonderful family, the mandatory gold Rolex with diamonds, several cars, a great farm house, no dearth of money et al. Then the opportunity offered by Dato Vijay Easwaran’s remarkable organisation came my way. It was as if I was struck by a thunderbolt. It was, as they say, a game changer for me. I jumped in with all guns blazing and in a relatively short time, thorough hard work, passion and commitment to the cause, I was able not only to enlarge my own options in life, but also to be the instrument of change for literally hundreds of thousands orf ordinary – and not so ordinary – folk. All I can say is thank the Lord that a man of the vision, calibre, character, and compassion of Dato Vijay has walked this earth.
People have been calling me and reporting how you guys are using some documents to claim that I have withdrawn my case and are using the same to get more sign ups. I been fighting this stupid SCAM of the Con-Dato don’t force me to report you guys. We know what you smart a$$e$ been doing in Dubai, so better not mess up. Don’t try to do business using my name..or you get it…
Some of your stupid IR,s messed up and see what the situation is, you want this to escalate further and you all want to be involved in it personal SO BE IT. It is your CHOICE now…turn approver or accused.
The man is need of money for a medical emergency and is being refused a refund by QNET. We need to reach out and help him and show him the path to resolving the issue via EOW. His contact details are available in the thread ....
https://getsatisfaction.com/qnet/topics/i_would_like_to_cancel_the_subscription_which_was_made_in_qvi_club_in_feb2012_what_are_the_ways_to
Jaideep Pawar 14 hours ago
i have recd e-mail on 20/09/2013 from jasvinder kaur (India support team) asking me to forward the issue to [email protected].
i have marked to the issue to [email protected] today.
note that since i have been sold this product by cheating , then only i was asking refund from my upline and his upline as well.
i had also promised that if i do not do any business then also i will be paid double amount after 3rd year (God knows on what basis ??). there are lots of false commitments and promisseses but realtiy is far from truth.
i once again applying you to refund 1.70 Lacs ASAP, as i am in urgent need of it.
- Jaideep pawar
Comment
good answer!
Jaideep Pawar 8 hours ago
i recd mail from venkateshanti that We are unable to process your request for refund as per QVI Policy
note that 99% sell is done by giving false promise and commitments and
showing impractical rate of return,
is this Q net business policy??????????????????
Note:
By the way if Vihaan and Transview transact in India then what is the business that venkatesantl@questnet-india has to play in this ??? It only proves that Quest Net India is still active and involved in policy decisions.... also look at the false promises made to the man at the time of selling this package ??
Come on Friends a golden opportunity for us LIKE minded people to come together and share our thoughts and experiences regarding this menace being played in India on the name of MLM/Network marketing and what not. LETS MEET !! YES !!
Saradha, Speak Asia, QNet, City Limouzine, StockGuru India, Sahara, MPS Greenery, NMart Retail… All these start as hot, new, investment opportunities and as alternative careers that offer high earnings and ways to escape the drudgery of 9-to-5 jobs. But, eventually, most of them fetch only small additional income and, worse, encourage you to lure and mislead your closest friends and relatives. You need to know how multi-level marketing (MLM) schemes and ponzis can destroy a large chunk of your savings or push you into debt. Understand the mechanics of these schemes, the laws that are applicable to them and why regulators fail to rein in dubious enterprises before they cheat thousands of people. Understand the basics of how to keep your money safe—the first step to smart investment! Collective investment schemes are not even under SEBI's regulation.
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The whole WORLD knows that this is a SCAM which has been re-started by changing names from QuestNet to Qnet (Vihaan) except police. They are “groping in the dark” ..what to say..
Now qnet.net a DIRECT SELLING COMPANY(which does not advertise and shares that revenue amongst IR,s will go and spend crores of more to buy media…till when and how much…didn’t speak asia also try the same and they had to wind up? )
http://www.business-standard.com/article...
Two shareholders control 100 per cent stake QNET's India franchiseeFY12 Balance Sheet shows networth of Rs.6.53 lakhs The relatives of two directors in QNET’s franchisee company, Vihaan Direct Selling (India) Private Limited, hold all of its equity capital-consisting of 100,000 shares.
Vihaan is the franchisee handling the India operations of QNET, the controversial marketing scheme which allegedly offers individuals the opportunity to make Rs4-5 crore through direct selling with an investment of less than Rs2 lakhs.It is estimated to have collected in excess of Rs400 crore.Vihaan’s shareholders fall under the category of directors or relatives of directors, according to a Business Standard analysis of filings that companies have to maintain with the Ministry of Corporate AffaiRsGuhan Ramachandran and Vanka Srinivas Rao are listed as directors of Vihaan, as per documents filed after the annual general meeting held on 29th September 2012. However, the documents also show that they do not hold any shares in the company suggesting that their relatives are the stakeholdeRs
QNET earlier operated in India through Questnet Enterprise India Pvt. Ltd
“For various business reasons QNET, however, decided to award the franchisee to Vihaan,” said Ajay Chanam, Official Spokesperson, QNET in India.
The spokesperson maintained that there was no relation between the old franchisee Questnet Enterprise India and Vihaan. QNET declined to comment on the identity of Vihaan’s shareholdeRs Vihaan was incorporated on 10th October 2011 and the last balance sheet it has filed pertains to the financial year ending in March 2012(FY12). Updated documents will only be filed by the end of September, said the spokesperson.
Vihaan has a share capital of Rs10 lakh rupees, according to the last available balance sheet. It had current liabilities of Rs10.45 lakh and total liabilities of Rs16.98 lakh. Meanwhile, it had current assets in the form of cash and cash equivalents of Rs16.71 lakhs.
The company, which is said to have done business worth hundreds of crores, had a networth of Rs6.53 lakhs as per its last balance sheet. Estimates based on Business Standard’s direct interaction with company distributors and source-based information suggests that the company has collected at least Rs400 crore so far. The amount was based on information which suggested that they had enrolled around 30,000 investors, most of whom had paid at least Rs1.5 lakhs upfront towards becoming a part of the company.
The company said that it had 68,000 representatives but disputed the figures for the amount of money it had collected, suggesting at first that it hasn’t done as much business yet. It then said that it had been on course to do business which was higher than the said amount for the current financial year. It later suggested that this is a rough estimate and could be affected by recent issues. The company is being probed by the Economic Offences Wing following a complaint about the sale of ‘miraculous products’ with the power to cure cancer and other diseases, according to reports.
The police has arrested a person in connection with the same and frozen multiple bank accounts, they said.QNET maintained that the company was not involved in illegal activities.It declined to comment on Vihaan’s financial details.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkuPGLEjv...
Say thanks to creator James for doing this :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkuPGLEjv...
Q plans for a smaller WE-Con to stop giving refunds to participants who were already booked for WE-Con 2013. A participant complained this is not fair as we are sold tickets for the MAJOR event but now have to sit for a regional event that too forcibly as there are no chances of a refund.
The official version given by Q(There are rumors that there efforts to rename QNET as the “Q”) is as under.
IMPORTANT NEWS ABOUT #VUAE13: We have to announce the postponement of our much anticipated V-UAE 2013 in Dubai. Due to the prevailing political situation in Egypt, a large number of our Egyptian brothers and sisters have been impacted. Also, due to the ongoing situation in Syria and other countries in the region, the UAE has tightened its visa restrictions for foreigners traveling to the country. This is preventing many of our friends from the region from being able to make it to Dubai. After much consideration and discussion with all your leaders, we have decided to postpone V-UAE to a later date. We apologies for any inconvenience this may have cause you.
Q Insider reports otherwise. Recent “Challenges” in India have put a spook in the wheel of Q. Collections in India have dropped by more than 80% said "insider". To prevent the negative gloom that has spread in India from propagating further to other developing markets the WE-Con has been called off. "Q Insider" adds after the recent “Challenges” in India there was a SHARP decline in the number of people who want to attend these WE-CONs and burn their hard earned money. People are waking up to the reality and stopped buying the BS in the name of “Business Oppurtunity”
Q will be accommodating the already booked IR,s by holding a CHOTA (Smaller WE-CON) as they do now want to refund the money back of people who had already booked in advance.
More to come :)
I request you all to please provide details of Systems and V-Cells which are still active, Please provide names of city, meeting place and details of individuals organizing these Systems and V-Cells.
Please email all details on [email protected]
Jai Hind
Guru
As usual all details you are providing will be kept confidential.
BTW rira, we heard you maxed-out, so any ways you must be having plenty of spare time with you nowdays, how about spending some with the police people, common be a sport they need some company man..you can teach them tricks of the trade on "how to max-out" ;)
RiRa started his career in radio and today, he is one of the highest paid Artists in India. He is a dynamic multi-faceted businessman who leads one of the best teams within QNet. RiRa will bring some very special audio & video content to the blog.
mocha - mohit kalra
hoga - hina gulati
ton - tunvey gogia
shoda - shurjo das
rira - rishi rana bhardwaj
adman - Adit Madan
We even got voice samples of you all now...
Start counting ..ulti ginti shuru..team kalra :)
Point 10 is the most stupid one...which ones you think is the most IDIOTIC of them all?
Please post in your comments :)
1. Changes structure of water molecule and energizes water.
2. Transfer of energy from bio disk to water.
3. Changes taste of wine.
4. Turns cheap whiskey into something similar to Johnny Walker.
5. Drink twice as much whiskey and not get drunk.
6. Plants grow faster.
7. Turns fruits and vegetables YOUNGER.
8. Changes characteristics of cosmetics.
9. Fish will grow faster in bio disk water.
10. Use petrol over Bio Disk, Car will go faster and quicker.
11. Rub Cigarette on bio disk and cigarette , Helps reduce smoking and helps quality of life.
12. Turns normal water to Zam Zam water.
13. The inventors of the BioDisc claim that it energizes water or any other liquid to help treat migraines, stress, stroke, diabetes, insomnia, enhance the immune system, detoxify cells, increase shelf life of products among other benefits. It is a laundry list of indications that have no clinical proof.
14. Prevents harm full effects of radiation.
15. Helps cure Kidney Stone and dissolves it.
16. Detoxifies the whole body.
17. Helps cure rashes in 5-10 minutes
18. Cures cuts and no scars left behind.
19. Hair die will not give itchy feeling and color will send longer and deeper.
20. Keep in fridge and everything stays FRESH longer.
21. Turns OLD fridge into Bio-Fridge for free.
22. Fresh orange juice will last 18 months.
23. Milk will last a least 10 days instead of 3 days,
24. Fresh vegetables will last more then one week.
25. Normal tap water becomes similar to spring water.
26. Bio Disk energy field can expand almost size of foot ball field.
27. Breaks larger water molecules ofH2O into small small H2O.
28. Helps in treatment of diabetes, Glucose levels will come down and energy will increase.
29. Cell metabolism increases by drinking bio disk water.
30. Bio Disk water absorbs 3-4 times more water then normal water.
31. Seeds sprout in half the time.
32. Common cold gets cured in 1 day instead of 10 days.
33. Medical bills will come down.
34. Bio Disk water results in whole body rejuvenation.
35. Increases stamina.
36. Helps in pain relief be it in joints of the legs, ulcer kind of stuff, pancreas, use for vision, for kidney etc
Uff…I cant take this crap any more….what CRAP…CRAP... CRAP…CRAP...
Qnet india is the biggest scam
By: raj85dubai2 | Sep 07, 2013 11:07 AM
I am one of the QNET IRs. I have written at-least 50 of the below positive comments about QNET by creating different email addresses. I did that so that I can easily convince more people by creating positive vibe about the product. So that I can make more money.
But today I am stuck. The products sold are of very low quality and Chinese made. One of my relatives whom I lured to join the business, has complained in police today. But all my senior members have deserted me. All those people who guided me and motivated me have disowned me.
Please folks, avoid Qnet. It is not that you can get richer only by joining QNET. There are other ethical ways to do so. Don’t be greedy..
Thanks,
Suresh.
source http://www.mouthshut.com/review/Quest-ne...
I am attaching the image file of the web traffic data of last 7 days, no wonder they are so pissed off at me :P
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/541....
This sounds like music to my ears...
Jai Jai Matram
Guru
Listed below are some of the lines or words which mean nothing but QNET aka SCAM
Owner at Global marketing project
A Visionary at Global Marketing Project
Retired at I am THE COMPANY
e-Entrepreneur ! at Entrepreneur
Co Founder at My Office My Health
Global Marketing Projects at E- Enterprenuer
Works at Self Employed and Loving It!
Global Partner at Qnet
Worked at I am unemployable
Business Owner at Business Owner of a Global E-Franchise
Worked at Qnet
Past: THE V and QNET | Faith Egypt | Team Bring It
Global Entrepreneur at QNET (Official)
Past: InService Brotherhood Bootcamp
Works at Achieving the Dream
Chief Executive Officer at Unemployable
Works at Retired
Prosperity Consultant at Faith - Empowering You, Life & Business Coach, JPO Consultant, Networker at Tigers - Leveraging Vision andIndependent Consultant at QNET (Official)
Past: Genpact
Studies Leadership management style at Swiss E-learning Institute
Former Partnership at QI intl
Works at Self Employed and Loving It!
Worked at Honkong Based Multi Billion Dollar Company
Worked at Self-Employed (Business-Entrepreneur)
Retired of a JOB at Social Entrepreneur
Partner at ßusiness of Imp0rts & Exp0rts
Owner at E-Entrepreneur
Works at Qnet.net
Chief Executive Officer at Briltime Corp
If you see any of the above keywords on social media profiles of people trying to catch up with you ..just RUN RUN RUN :P
Regards
QNET cancels 15th Anniversary special event to be held in Mumbai on 8th of September 2013.
QNET had planned a GRAND Event at Janssen Auditorium, Holy Spirit Hospital, Andheri East.to celebrate success and its 15th year celebrations. This event was also supposed to LEAD THE CHANGE and prepare the IR,s to get ready not just to see the change, but to lead it from the front. The event was to be graced by V-Elite Leader, Associate Infiniti Partner - BIJOY MATHEWS.
But at the last moment QNET have reportedly chickened out and cancelled the event within 10 minutes of announcing it.
Below is the email cancelling the event.
()() LEAD THE CHANGE UPDATE ()() Guys, due to some construction/repair work going on at the Janssen Auditorium tomo, we are not getting the same venue. So, as of now the event stands POSTPONED due to unavailability of a suitable venue of the reqd size. We will keep u updated on the same. So the new venue & date for the same will be informed asap. Till then keep watching this space for more. Till then, Pls be informed tomo event stands CANCELLED, so pls go ahead with your respective team trainings, meetings & vcells as planned. Sorry for the inconvenience caused.
Inservice
I wonder what QNET are so scared of? At one hand they take up fake names and ID,s on internet and abuse me and threaten me, on the other hand they do not have the GUTS to hold any event specially one to celebrate their 15th anniversary ?
The IR,s should think from their heart, you want to be part of such a company who chickens out? The CEO of whom deserts and disowns everything in court? What will they do tomorrow? Look at the track record.. Goldquest, Questnet and now QNET…every time they disowned their own company, what rights to IR,s have?
QNET trains you all IR,s in everything and when it comes to damage control the first line of defense is to disown you all, Is it ETHICAL?
LEAD THE CHANGE
QUIT QNET !!!
Jai Jai Matram
Guru
Please report if you see any changes in online content of QNET, Its teams web sites including v network. We need to report it as it will amount to tampering with evidence. Please help if you see any such things, email on [email protected]
Regards
Guru
We need detailed information on the teams that are active in India for ex. Infinity, Faith etc. The following details are needed.
1. Team management top names.
2. Modus Operandi.
3. Internal Videos.
4. Area of Operations.
5. Training material.
6. Names of Victims of teams.
7. Maximum details of this guy "Dev Wadhwani"
I hope more information will come in as has happened since last few days.
Please email us on [email protected]
Jai Hind !!
Guru
a) Why hot signups (mom, sister, dad, brother, uncle , aunty, cousins, best friends) are done without informing them officially that why and for what are they giving their hard earned money? Why isn't qnet mentioned to them or the products explained to them in detail?
b) If products are bought for hot's without informing them then how it isn't a pyramid scheme where products are non consequential and money involvement is the prime factor (in this case the business opportunity)
c) will any person buy a bio-disc/chi pendant for rs 30,000 - 45000 as a retail over the counter product?
d) when friends or acquaintances are called for a "plan" over a phone call, why aren't they told straight up what are they coming there for? Why isn't it mentioned upfront on the phone that it's MLM/NETWORK MARKETING and the name of the company is QNET? Why use deceitful tactics of edifying "senior partner" to make it sound like a BIG thing to invite someone to the table? (there is a proper script used by IR's for informing and inviting)
e) Why does the presenter state the name of the company as QI and not QNET during the presentation? Is there something to hide?
f) Can the products sold by qnet actually compete at any logical price point in the open retail market? (would the e gaurd sticker set sell at rs 8000 in a normal retail store? and will you buy?)
g) If the opportunity and the business is actually so lucrative, then why is it that 99% of people fail or quit in the first year itself? 70% people don't show more than 4 plans? (are these statistics shared with the prospect on the table by the presenter? if not then why?)
__________________________________________________________
Kindly answer all these questions to throw more clarity for people oblivious to how big and huge this business opp is and how they can all become millionaires in 4 years.
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आज़ादी के परवाने
जीना तो उसी का जीना है
जो मरना वतन पे जाने
ठवतन ठवतन हमको तेरी क़सम
तेरी राहों मैं जां तक लà¥à¤Ÿà¤¾ जायेंगे
फूल कà¥à¤¯à¤¾ चीज़ है तेरे कदमों पे हम
à¤à¥‡à¤‚ट अपने सरों की चढ़ा जायेंगे
कोई पंजाब से, कोई महाराषà¥à¤Ÿà¥à¤° से
कोई यू.पी. से है, कोई बंगाल से
तेरी पूजा की थाली में लाये हैं हम
फूल हर रंग के, आज हर डाल से
नाम कà¥à¤› à¤à¥€ सही पर लगन à¤à¤• है
जोत से जोत दिल की जगा जायेंगे
ठवतन ठवतन...
तेरी जानिब उठी जो कहर की नज़र
उस नज़र को à¤à¥à¤•ा के ही दम लेंगे हम
तेरी धरती पे है जो कदम ग़ैर का
उस कदम का निशाठतक मिटा देंगे हम
जो à¤à¥€ दीवार आयेगी अब सामने
ठोकरों से उसे हम गिरा जायेंगे
ठवतन ठवतन...
तू ना रोना के तू है à¤à¤—त सिंह की माà¤
मर के à¤à¥€ लाल तेरा मरेगा नहीं
घोड़ी चढ़के तो लाते है दà¥à¤²à¥à¤¹à¤¨ सà¤à¥€
हà¤à¤¸à¤•े हर कोई फाà¤à¤¸à¥€ चढ़ेगा नहीं
इशà¥à¤• आज़ादी से आशिकों ने किया
देख लेना उसे हम बà¥à¤¯à¤¾à¤¹ लाà¤à¤‚गे
ठवतन ठवतन...
जब शहीदों की अरà¥à¤¥à¥€ उठे धूम से
देशवालों तà¥à¤® आà¤à¤¸à¥‚ बहाना नहीं
पर मनाओ जब आज़ाद à¤à¤¾à¤°à¤¤ का दिन
उस घड़ी तà¥à¤® हमें à¤à¥‚ल जाना नहीं
लौट कर आ सकें ना जहाठमें तो कà¥à¤¯à¤¾
याद बनके दिलों में तो आ जाà¤à¤à¤—े
ठवतन ठवतन...
I am just a common man..i had nothing to do with QNET i was busy with my daily life, minding my business, until QNET came knocking.
I am that guy like in the movie "A Wednesday".
I Ignored QNET people, avoided them, they threatened me, i researched and saw thru their SCAM and said ENOUGH.
I dont want to be any leader, i hope this finishes as soon as possible so i can get back to my life and look after my children.
Today i have lost my business and incurred a loss of 15 Lacs just because i ignored my business since last 4 months to go after QNET.
I do not regret it..I owe it to MOTHER INDIA, that is the LEAST i can do for my nation, even if i get killed it will be happy at least this thing is exposed now...
When i stood in the court for first time against QNET the high-fi lawyers who charge minimum 20 Lacs per case ridiculed me in the court..making signs "he is finished". I ignored them and prayed to go to give me strength to be able to open my mouth in front of the judge against QNET and GOD helped me like he has been helping me against QNET since last 4 months.
Qnet people have destroyed the life of my family, conspired to shut down our business and the LOCAL POLICE is helping them and colliding with them.
Yesterday night me and my wife were abused and threatened in the local police station by goons of the police..The goons of the police inspector also tried to physically attack me apart from abusing me..The ROT runs DEEP , i know i will fail but i will not go down without a FIGHT.
There are people who email me saying we can not come forward, you fight...i ask them ...If DIRT and GARBAGE accumulates within your house do you wait for outsiders to come and clean it..I have my limitations ..my family is destroyed..i am doing what i can do what ever i can to expose the SCAM..but how can i carry on individual fights for others? Come on what people fear...?
Physical death I do not fear, death of conscience is a sure death.
हम करें राषà¥à¤Ÿ आराधना
तन से मन से धन से
तन मन धन जीवनसे
हम करें राषà¥à¤Ÿ आराधना………………।।…धृ
अनà¥à¤¤à¤° से मà¥à¤– से कृती से
निशà¥à¤°à¥à¤šà¤² हो निरà¥à¤®à¤² मति से
शà¥à¤°à¤§à¥à¤§à¤¾ से मसà¥à¤¤à¤• नत से
हम करें राषà¥à¤Ÿ अà¤à¤¿à¤µà¤¾à¤¦à¤¨â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦à¥¤ï»¿ १
अपने हंसते शैशव से
अपने खिलते यौवन से
पà¥à¤°à¥Œà¤¢à¤¤à¤¾ पूरà¥à¤£ जीवन से
हम करें राषà¥à¤Ÿ का अरà¥à¤šà¤¨â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦à¥¤à¥¨
अपने अतीत को पढकर
अपना ईतिहास उलटकर
अपना à¤à¤µà¤¿à¤¤à¤µà¥à¤¯ï»¿ समà¤à¤•र
हम करें राषà¥à¤Ÿ का चिंतन…।………………।३
है याद हमें यà¥à¤— यà¥à¤— की जलती अनेक घटनायें
जो मां के सेवा पथ पर आई बनकर विपदायें
हमने अà¤à¤¿à¤·à¥‡à¤• किया था जननी का अरिशोणित से
हमने शृंगार किया था माता का अरिमà¥à¤‚डो से
हमने ही ऊसे दिया था सांसà¥à¤•ृतिक उचà¥à¤š सिंहासन
मां जिस पर बैठी सà¥à¤– से करती थी जग का शासन
अब काल चकà¥à¤° की गति से वह टूट गया सिंहासन
अपना तन मन धन देकर हम करें पà¥à¤¨: संसà¥à¤¥à¤¾à¤ªà¤¨â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦à¥¤à¥ª
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOizctGB5...
Suresh Thimri the brain and LEADER upon whom thousands of Qnet IR,s looked upto, disowned his own QNET company to any how get his anticipatory bail application approved.
I wonder is this leadership? You know who deserts a sinking ship FIRST? If there was NOTHING illegal in Qnet operations why would Suresh Thimri disown QNET?
It is a open question to all QNET IR,s, Please THINK. There is no FINANCIAL FREEDOM at the end of the road but a MIRAGE, lets come out of it and work towards betterment of our NATION MOTHER INDIA, then be with such people who can disown their own company.
The economy is in bad condition, lets work together and prevent millions being drained out of our MOTHER INDIA.
Come on IR,s you are Indians first…Think Think…
BE THE CHANGE
STOP THE SCAM
Jai Hind !!!
Read the complete story here.. http://www.moneylife.in/article/qnet-whe...
आन बान शान या कि जान का हो दान आज इक धनà¥à¤· के बाण पे उतार दो
आरमà¥à¤ है पà¥à¤°à¤šà¤£à¥à¤¡â€¦
मन करे सो पà¥à¤°à¤¾à¤£ दे, जो मन करे सो पà¥à¤°à¤¾à¤£ ले, वही तो à¤à¤• सरà¥à¤µà¤¶à¤•à¥à¤¤à¤¿à¤®à¤¾à¤¨ है
कृषà¥à¤£ की पà¥à¤•ार है, ये à¤à¤¾à¤—वत का सार है कि यà¥à¤¦à¥à¤§ ही तो वीर का पà¥à¤°à¤®à¤¾à¤£ है
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आरमà¥à¤ है पà¥à¤°à¤šà¤‚ड…
वो दया का à¤à¤¾à¤µ, या कि शौरà¥à¤¯ का चà¥à¤¨à¤¾à¤µ, या कि हार का वो घाव तà¥à¤® ये सोच लो
या कि पूरे à¤à¤¾à¤² पे जला रहे विजय का लाल, लाल यह गà¥à¤²à¤¾à¤² तà¥à¤® ये सोच लो
रंग केसरी हो या मृदंग केसरी हो या कि केसरी हो ताल तà¥à¤® ये सोच लो
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à¤à¥€à¤—ती मसों में आज, फूलती रगों में आज, आग की लपट का तà¥à¤® बघार दो
आरमà¥à¤ है पà¥à¤°à¤šà¤‚ड…
My Appeal to all Qnet IR,s is this leader ship quality?
For 5 minutes take the "Business Opportunity" out of the QNET concept...take a few DEEP breaths and THINK...is is justified...draining money out of our Nation?
Ask the question to your self...you will get ANSWERS !!
CHANGE
Stop the SCAM
please freeze more bank accounts !!!!
Sachin P Mampatta | Mumbai August 29, 2013 Last Updated at 16:26 IST
Beware: The curious case of Qnet
Controversial scheme may have collected in excess of Rs.400 crore
The company QNET has recruited 30,000 people as part of its business in India according to two sources. All of them pay an entry fee upfront.
“The minimum amount is usually Rs 1.5 lakh. It can go up to Rs 15 lakh,” said the person. Lower amounts are a rare exception with over 95% of the people having paid at least Rs 1.5 lakhs, the person added.
A back of the envelope calculation puts the minimum amount collected at Rs 435 crore.
Representatives for the company claim that individuals can make Rs 4-5 crore in a few years through direct selling, provided they ‘work hard.’
An email sent seven days ago to an address for media queries on the company website did not receive a reply. A phone number listed as a media contact based out of Hong Kong, connected instead to a customer support service.
The group website says it was founded in 1998 and describes itself as an e-commerce conglomerate with diveRs e businesses which makes use of the internet to connect with its customers.
It claims regional offices in Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand and the Philippines. It also claims a wide range of subsidiary companies in nearly 30 countries.
The Economic offences wing is probing a complaint against the company for selling ‘miraculous products’ with the power to cure cancer and other diseases, according to reports. The police has already arrested a person in connection with the same and frozen a couple of bank accounts, they said.
Other products with links to 'alternative' therapies are also found on its website.
One product claims to improve water by pouring it over a disc.
The Amezcua Bio Disc 2 is said to have a ‘greatly enhanced energy field, attributed to the seven wave-form rings on the disc’s surface.’
“The seven ribbed rings speed up the biomolecular structure process of liquids poured over the disc, improving the biocompatibility of water molecules with your body more than ever before. The liquids are energised faster and more efficiently via the wave-form produced by the rings,” said the product note on the company’s website.
Another one, the Amezcua Bio Light is said to take advantage of ‘biophotons’ to improve food quality.
“Shining the Amezcua Bio Light through the Amezcua Bio Disc helps generate the biophotons to improve the performance of enhancing your energy levels and improving the taste of your foods and beverages,” it said.
The company’s products and services also cover luxury and collectible products, training and education, logistics in addition to an e-commerce based retail & direct sales business.
The group also claims investments in diveRs e industries including telecommunications, banking and television and broadcast media. It also claims real estate holdings encompassing commercial and retail properties, as well as interests in entertainment and hospitality.
All qnet goons threatening me here and there, why do you guys hide come in open and do it, whats the max you guys can do, beat me or kill me..i care a damn...
“Zindgi to apne damm par hi jiyi jati hey..dusro k kandhe par tohh shirf janaje uthaye jate hey.”
― Bhagat Singh
When i began this fight i knew i would be alone so everything was calculated including the risk of loosing my life, business and family...So i am ready you Consters come and do it a.s.a.p.
Regards
Guru
My experience with QI (Quest net International ) has been tormenting so say the least.I request anyone reading this to stay away from such unscrupulous people.They are a bunch of greedy souls who will befriend you and then make you bakras.There is this doctor Julie Shastri staying in my apartment.Staying in the same apartment we came to know each other.One day I receive a call from her saying that she has a business proposition for me and she will like me to come to a cafe shop to discuss.We finally met at Aromas in Hiranandani (their usual centre is Kartar Road Bandra) where her two "business partners" one of whom was her brother accompanied us.She said that they wanted to judge me first and only if I was a fit they will consider me for the partnership. What followed was an hr and half non-stop lecture on how useless job life is and how this business will help me achieve all the financial freedom I had ever dreamt of. I was told how people from Wharton, ex hedge fund guys and bankers had left their jobs to pursue this venture.I took every thing as was told just because I trusted this lady.After one and a half hour I was completely brain washed to believe that QI is a great business venture.I was given not much detail about the type of work I will be doing.They said that anyone can do the work they just needed people who would fit in.After the one and a half hr session the guy popped up the question which would determine if I could start my journey to be the next crorepati. He told that any business venture requires seed capital so if I wanted to embark on this journey I would have to invest some 3lakh in buying a holiday package from QVI club, a subsidiary of the company. He asked me ow much liquid cash I had that I could invest immediately.I told him I had around a lakh.He tried a lot to convince me to use my credit card limit to arrange for 3 lakh as it will help me get more share of the company and make more money.Later he asked me to give a token amount of 10k so that he could consider me for this business venture.I was still not very clear about the business venture but at the same time I did not want this opportunity of making money to slip from my hands hence I went to the nearest ATM and gave them the money.I was also asked not to talk about this business venture with any one for the next 2 days.I had a day trip planned with my friends on Saturday.Starting from the evening I started receiving SMS and calls from Julie.She wanted me to attend a session at 9 am on Sunday where I will get to meet all the great people who are a part of this business.Her constant chasing had begun to annoy me and by Sunday morning I started having second thoughts about what the business was all about.I had not talked to anyone about it as yet.I smsed her in the morning that I will not be able to go ahead with the business and wanted my 10k back.She gave me some crap that she had already registered me in the portal and paid 10k hence could not return my money.She convinced me to come for the session .Seeing my 10k already down the drain and still trusting her I decided to go ahead with the session.On the way I was told that I will meet some faculty from SP Jain and some guy from IIMs.I was told it will be the most amazing experience of my life.I will get to meet really smart people..Also I will be given a set of books which are really amazing and can teach me more than any MBA college can.When I reached there I saw some 600 people out there.Music was being played and people were dancing to it.I was introduced to some ex-bankers.Later I was asked to pay 2100 to get the membership card to attend the session and a bunch of books.In the session a guy shared his experience of how he made crores.Later an i-banker from Morgan stanley gave a presentation of how the business works and how this business guarantees a return of 4.5 crore in 4 years.After another round of brainwash I was asked to make the payment so that I could become a part of the club.I asked for some time to see how much money I could invest.I was told that the least I could was 36k.Seeing that 10k was a lost cause I thought that by investing in the 36k package which was a 7 nights holiday package I could atleast save my 10k from going to waste.After my investments were made and I came home and googled about the company .It was then I realized what I had got myself into.I smsed her telling that I did not want to be associated with such a fraud company which was already banned in a couple of countries.She told me that the product had already been purchased and she could do nothing about it.I had received no emails about the product but still according to her the product had been purchased.I was totally convinced by now that I could not associate myself with such a company .I could not imagine myself being a face of such a fraudulent company.After much chasing I was returned 28.4k the remaining money 100$ she deducted as a transfer fees(another crap from her).So I took a loss of 7k but am glad that I got out of it with my dignity intact.
http://www.complaintboard.in/complaints-...
Economic offences wing (EOW) of Mumbai police, which is probing QNet has frozen two bank accounts related with the Hong Kong-based controversial multi-level marketing (MLM) operator. These bank accounts reportedly have a balance of Rs45 crore. In addition, the police custody of Manjunath Hegde, arrested in this cheating case, has been reportedly extended, says sources.
Last week, EOW registered a case against QNet, for allegedly duping thousands of investors by selling them plastic and glass products terming them miraculous objects for treating severe diseases like Cancer.
The complainant, Gurupreet Singh Anand, a computer consultant from Lokhandawala, Andheri stated that his wife was duped for Rs30,000 by some people who had introduced themselves as the independent representatives (IRs) of QNet. Anand told the police, “They (IRs) had said that one of the bio-products my wife bought could be used to treat my 12-year-old son's brain related diseases.”
The first information report (FIR) names five accused, including QNet's Hong Kong-based founder Dato Vijay Eswaran, a Malaysian by birth and an Indian by ethnicity, who is photographed hobnobbing with the Prince of Saudi Arabia, in order to enhance its credibility in the Gulf.
It is not necessary at all to write to EOW and also not required that you have to be a victim in the first place to report it.
All over India if you know of any IR,s promoting Qnet, just go to local police station to report them for attempting to chear the public at large and for promoting product based money circulation scheme under the THE PRIZE CHITS AND MONEY CIRCULATION SCHEMES (BANNING) ACT, 1978, section 3,5 and 6. Make the complaint in writing by letter to the police station with a request to lodge FIR. Please send CC of the complaints to the higher ups of the police stations including the commissioner.
Regards
Guru
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/...
MUMBAI: The economic offences wing (EOW), on Saturday, made the first arrest in the QNet case. Bandra-based Manjunath Hegde (52) was arrested for cheating and was remanded into police custody till August 22. The EOW is probing a suspected fraud committed by the firm. Two teams were sent to Bangalore and Chennai for investigations into this case.
"Hegde, who is an advertiser by profession, was arrested from his Bandra residence. We searched his house and seized computer hard disc and several incriminating documents which will be produced in the court. There are some payment/commission receipts among the documents," said an investigator, adding that Hegde had attended several seminars conducted by the firm in Indian and Malaysia. The police suspects Hegde to be linked to Vijay Esvaran, the prime accused in QNet case.
Ajay Chanam, official spokesperson of QNET in India, in a statement said, "We do not commit any magical cures and the scientific properties of the Bio-Disc available on our website and duly certified by relevant agencies. We do not have a control on how some distributors represent it and do not hesitate to take strict action on anyone found to be doing so. We also don't force anyone to join our network and commissions are not linked to people joining the network, rather sale of products."
A Lokhandwala resident, Gurupreetsing Anand, 40, who is a a computer consulatant, lodged an FIR with the police. He stated that his wife was duped of Rs 30,000 by some independent representatives of QNet. "They had said that one of the bio-products my wife bought could be used to treat my 12-year-old son's brain related diseases," Anand told police. QNet is being probed for allegedly duping thousands of investors by selling them plastic and glass products terming them miraculous objects for treating severe diseases like Cancer, said police. Police said that the company lured investors with various schemes with an investment between Rs 30,000 and Rs 7 lakh.
If you have lost any money with QI/Qnet or have been scammed (or know someone who has), try the Economic Offences Wing of the Mumbai Police. They have filed FIRs and taken action against MLM like QNet, SpeakAsia and MMM etc on complaints from ordinary people They may get your money back or atleast save others from getting trapped in this scam. Their address is:
Additional Commissioner of Police
Economic Offences Wing
Crime Branch, Mumbai Police
Police Commissioner's Office
Opposite Crawford Market
D N Road, Fort
Mumbai 400 001
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/...
MUMBAI: The economic offences wing (EOW), on Saturday, made the first arrest in the QNet case. Bandra-based Manjunath Hegde (52) was arrested for cheating and was remanded into police custody till August 22. The EOW is probing a suspected fraud committed by the firm. Two teams were sent to Bangalore and Chennai for investigations into this case.
"Hegde, who is an advertiser by profession, was arrested from his Bandra residence. We searched his house and seized computer hard disc and several incriminating documents which will be produced in the court. There are some payment/commission receipts among the documents," said an investigator, adding that Hegde had attended several seminars conducted by the firm in Indian and Malaysia. The police suspects Hegde to be linked to Vijay Esvaran, the prime accused in QNet case.
Ajay Chanam, official spokesperson of QNET in India, in a statement said, "We do not commit any magical cures and the scientific properties of the Bio-Disc available on our website and duly certified by relevant agencies. We do not have a control on how some distributors represent it and do not hesitate to take strict action on anyone found to be doing so. We also don't force anyone to join our network and commissions are not linked to people joining the network, rather sale of products."
A Lokhandwala resident, Gurupreetsing Anand, 40, who is a a computer consulatant, lodged an FIR with the police. He stated that his wife was duped of Rs 30,000 by some independent representatives of QNet. "They had said that one of the bio-products my wife bought could be used to treat my 12-year-old son's brain related diseases," Anand told police. QNet is being probed for allegedly duping thousands of investors by selling them plastic and glass products terming them miraculous objects for treating severe diseases like Cancer, said police. Police said that the company lured investors with various schemes with an investment between Rs 30,000 and Rs 7 lakh.
Millions are being drained out of the Indian economy, Please join in the FIGHT. If you keep quite today don’t complain tomorrow, the plat form is now ready to finish this I appeal every one to join in.
STOP THE SCAM
BE THE CHANGE
If you are a Victim of this SCAM or you know of people who are promoting this company please send all details [email protected](Ban Qnet at gmail.com ).
I once again to people around India to join in this fight to stop this SCAM and disease from spreading any further. Please email me details on [email protected](Ban Qnet at gmail.com ).
Regards
Gurupreet
I am the guy who got this FIR registered, it took lots of efforts and time since last 4 months to collect evidence and hand it over to the Mumbai Police/EOW people, thankfully there is now enough evidence to close down this company i.e if proper action is taken by the authorities. I hope other people in different cities will come forward and lodge complaints against the IR,s in their respective cities, There is no need to feel afraid. If YOU do not come forward DONT EXPECT OTHERS TO DO IT. This is our own collective fight, the only reason that QNET IR,s have a field day and the victims don’t have a SAY is because there is no PLATFORM for the victims to come together, but hopefully in the coming days that platform will be available for the VICTIMS of this SCAM. I really thank the money life team for having the GUTS to have exposed it and not fallen into the trap of FREE travels to Hong Kong or Malaysia like some other media people.
Regards
Guru
Actually you are very right.
The author of this Page has put his full efforts on the negative thoughts & tried to scratch & put only the hard times of QNET as a growing company. .. Like any good & well known personalities like Mahatma Gandhi / Martin Luther King / Nelson Mandela .... all were cribbed by their own set of people & then they loved them but still even after their death there are people who do not know head or tail of their lives & follow the 0.1% people who were never satisfied with their good deeds & fame coming to them...
Same i can see here.... Wish the author had the GUTS (Genuine Urge To Succeed) in life & then he would have put all his lovely creativity & information into a positive way ... to help mankind .....
Suggest you to read a third party link who endorses Network Marketing Today as the Biz to achieve Financial Freedom...
http://www.thebusinessofthe21stcentury.c...
Look at this Video where you can see Robert Kiyosaki a Multi Millionaire explaining how Network Marketing is not about selling , but about People Helping People .....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvQsuJUvY...
What is QNET ?
Have a look this link of the enjoyment with QNET -
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYwLz6GrJ...
Harvard University
Networking Guru Dr. Charles King talks about QNET - P1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0Fqgu33Z...
Forbes Link -
http://www.forbes.com/sites/donaldfrazie...
Maybe it is a question of the price of the products people buy in order for them to participate in the business opportunity offered by QNET. But then again if that were true, companies like Prada, Rolex, Ferrari, Gucci, and many others would be scrutinized as well. But they aren't, are they? Aren't their products much more expensive ?
Why are they never termed as Scam companies ?
What is the difference between these businesses and QNET?
People still buy their products but you don't hear anyone saying these companies are bad for the economy. Why is that? The products offered by these businesses and QNET are of the highest quality aren't they? This too cannot be why QNET comes under fire as being bad for the economy.
Maybe it is the way direct selling companies like QNET operate. What is the major difference between all the other global companies out there and direct selling companies such as QNET? Those companies provide jobs in the countries they operate from while direct selling businesses such as Qnet provide their customers an opportunity to earn an extra income by owning their own business. This might be why companies such as QNET are often said to be bad for an economy. But is that true? Even before the economic crisis we are in started, weren't there too few good paying jobs to go around for everyone? Now with the current economic crisis, there are fewer than ever. Why?
Direct selling companies such as QNET then, in my opinion, are good for any economy. The one thing I have come to realize during these economic times is that people still want to buy products and services, even those that are unemployed. Direct selling businesses capitalize on this, true, but they pay anyone, unemployed or not, who markets their products and they pay them handsomely. Take QNET for example. Qnet pays for your hardship & efforts, on a good day, $6800 a week, to any customer who markets their products and services. Isn't this money coming into an economy and isn't it far more than is going out?
Anyone who says that QNET is bad for an economy clearly doesn't understand what an economy really is. A national economy is made up of many sectors working together and to say a company like Qnet, compared to other big named global companies, is bad for that economy as a whole, is ridiculous. Saying so assumes that the nation in question depends on QNET alone for its products and services and we know that's not true. I believe that it is the duty of all customers, actively marketing QNET products and services, to create their own businesses with the commissions they earn. These businesses in turn create job opportunities, which in the long run is good for the economy in question.
This is what most QNET Representatives I know do. They use their commissions to start their own businesses. Obliviously some Reps that manage to start their own businesses fail to be successful in their ventures and in the end focus solely on marketing products and earning commissions. Those that are successful in their own businesses quit their QNET business and hand it over to their loved ones so that they too can be successful. Why some reps fail to start their own business and others succeed is a topic for another time.
So is QNET bad for the nation’s economy? I think not. I realize everyone else has their own views and I would really love to hear them, especially how they have come to their conclusions on this matter. Please feel free to post them in the comment box below. I would like to thank the anonymous source for their comment and I hope to hear from them again. If you are ready to let Qnet help you in your pursuit of your dreams as it has helped me, visit the QNET website (http://www.qnet.net) or contact me directly by email on [email protected] .
Just would like to leave the author of this wordpress to get into the reality check again & either correct the data of this page & help people who may get misguided to choose the best Industry today to fulfil their Dreams in life..... Or to delete this section. I know it will be difficult to do this , But I am sure for the sake of Mankind you will surely give it a thought....
God Bless you all !
Rgds,
Rajesh Dube
[email protected]
https://portal.qnet.ae/eStore4/preregister.aspx?language=en&referrer=HZ925872
QNET IS THE 4TH LARGEST DIRECT SELLING COMPANY IN THE WORLD.
QNET - WHERE YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE. QNET WHERE YOU CAN START YOUR BUSINESS. YOU ARE THE CEO OF YOUR COMPANY. WHERE YOU CAN BECOME FINANCIALY FREE IN JUST 4 YEARS.
AWSOME BUSINESS OPPERTUNITY. JUST FOLLOW THE BASICS. FOLLOW YOUR UPLINES. SHOW 100% COMITTMENT AND SERIOUSLNESS. KEEP FAITH AND BELIEF IN SYSTEM.
YOUR UPLINES ARE YOUR LIFELINES, FOLLOW THEM LIKE HELL. THIS COMPANY IS CHANGING LIVES FOR 15 YEARS, ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS FIND YOUR 2.
WAYS OF WORKING ARE TOO SIMPLE:
1. MAKE DREAM LIST WITH REAL DATE IN PRESENT TENSE - IT IS THE DRIVING FORCE, WRITE B DREAMS WHICH ARE LINKED TO YOUR FAMILY. EMOTIONAL DREAMS ARE MORE POWERFUL.
2. WRITE NAME LIST - AT LEAST 500 PEOPLE - WHOMEVER YOU KNOW. JUST WRITE THE NAMES, DONT THINK YOU HAVE TO SHOW THEM THE PLAN.PUT ALL NAMES OF YOUR FACEBOOK FRIEND
LIST, YOUR FAMILY, RELATIVES, NEIGHBOURS, COLLEGUES, COLLEGE BUDDIES, SCHOOL BUDDIES, PRIMARY SCHOOL BUDDIES, WHOMEVER YOU HAVE MET IN YOUR LIFE, JUST WRITE THE NAMES.
3. DIVIDE THE NAMES INTO 3 CATAGORIES
A. HOT - WHICH ARE THE CLOSEST ONES, THESE ARE LIKE TO WHOM YOU WANT TO GIVE THE MOST BENEFIT OF YOUR HARDWORK. MAJOR EXAMPLES - YOUR MOM, DAD, SPOUSE/HUSBAND, SISTER,
BROTHER, BROTHER IN LAW, BEST FRIENDS, COUSINS, RELATIVES. THIS IS MANDATORY.
B. WARM - THIS CATAGORY INCLUDES GOOD FRIENDS, COLLEGE BUDDIES, COLLEGUES, PREVIOUS COMPANY COLLEGUES, ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE A GOOD RELATION WITH YOU AND CAN TRUST
YOU.
C. COLD - THIS CATAGORY INCLUDES THOSE PEOPLE TO WHOM YOU NEVER TALKED IN FRIENDLY SENSE, RELATION COULD BE JUST PROFESSIONAL OR THEY ARE JUST YOUR ACQUANTESE.
4. START ACTIVITIES
1ST NO. FOR HOT:
CALL THE HOT AND SAY
1. YOU NEED THE URGENT MONEY,TRANSER THE MONEY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE OR
2. YOU HAVE STARTED AN AWSOME BUSINESS AND YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR BUDDY AS PARTNER, MONEY NEEDED VERY URGENTLY, BUSINESS WILL NOT BE DISCUSSED WITH THEM, AS THEY
COULDNT UNDERSTAND RIGHT NOW.
3. IN CASE THEY NOT AGREE, JUST ASK THEM TO THINK AS YOU ARE IN ICU, AND NEED URGENT MONEY. THE MONEY WOULD BE RETURNED AS DOUBLE IN 3 YEARS AND AT THAT TIME, TRANSFER
HIS/HER BUSINESS TO YOUR NAME.
HOT CALLS ARE ABSOLUTELY MANDATORY. YOUR PARENTS, SIBLINGS, SPOUSE CANNOT SAY NO, AS THEY HAVE EMOTIONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU AND TRUST YOU THE MOST.
2.WARM CALLS
1.INFORM ALL THE WARM - SAY YOU HAVE STARTED AWESOME BUSINESS AND WILL EARN 5 CRORES IN 3-4 YEARS. YOU ARE REALLY ENJOYING YOUR LIFE.
WHAT EVER THE RESPONSE YOU GET FROM YOUR FRIENDS IN YOUR CALLS, DIVIDE THEM IN 3 CATAGORIES (A,B,C).
2.IN THE CURRENT OR NEXT WEEK, WHOMEVER YOU HAVE INFORMED, NOW ITS TIME TO INVITE.
INVITE IN THE PROFESSIONAL INTERVIEW MANNER:
HERE IS THE SCRIPT, YOU NEED TO SAY:
HELLO BUDDY, YOU REMEMBER, I TOLD YOU ABOUT MY BUSINESS SOME DAYS AGO, NOW THE THING IS THAT, MY NCR MARKET IS RUNNING LIKE FIRE AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF EXPANTION
OF OUR BUSINESS. YESTERDAY I HAD A MEETING WITH MY SENIOR BIZ PARTNERS WHO HAVE CAME ALL ALONG FROM DUBAI AND MUMBAI, AND WE DISCUSSED THAT WE NEED 2-3 SERIOUS LIKE
MINDED BUSINESS PARTNERS WHO COULD COME ONBOARD WITH US AND HELP US IN EXPENSION AND WE ARE OK IN SHARING THE PROFIT EQUALLY. I JUST WANT TO CHECK WITH YOU WHETHER
YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING BIG OF YOUR OWN IN YOUR LIFE APART FROM WHATEVER YOU ARE DOING RIGHT NOW. IN CASE YOU ARE SERIOUS, I COULD RECOMMEND YOUR NAME FOR THE
INTERVIEW WITH MY SR. BIZ PARTNERS.
IN CASE HE ASKS - WHAT IS THE BIZ - SAY .. IT IS BASED ON E-COMMERCE PLATFORM. WHAT WE DO IS , WE IDENTIFY MARKETS GLOBALLY AND GROW THEM ACCORDING TO OUR S.O.Ps AND
STRETGIES, IN THE PROCESS WHATEVER THE TRANSACTION IS MADE, WE SHARE A PERCENTAGE OF THE PROFIT WHICH TRANSLATES TO 5 CRORES IN NEXT 4 YEARS. NOW WHAT ARE THESE SOPS
AND STRATEGIES - THIS CALL IS NOT THE RIGHT PLATFORM TO DISCUSS. IF YOU ARE SERIOUS, JUST COME FOR THE INTERVIEW, AND INCASE YOU GET SELECTED EACH AND EVERYTHING WOULD
BE DISCUSSED IN DETAIL ON THE TABLE.
ALSO, AS YOU KNOW, ITS A BUSINESS, AND SOME INITIAL EXPENDITURE IS REQUIRED TO START EVERY BUSINESS. FOR OUR BIZ, IT COULD BE ANYTHING BETWEEN 2-7 LACS. SO IN
INTERVIEW, JUST BRING THE PAN CARD, AND MODE OF PAYMENT ALONG WITH YOU, BECASUE INCASE YOU ARE SELECTED, AND YOU ALSO LIKED THE BUSINESS, WE COULD START THEN AND THERE
WITHOUT WASTING TIME, OTHERWISE IT COULD BE POSSIBLE THAT YOU MISS THE CHANCE IF YOU GET SELECTED BUT NO MONEY WITH YOU AT THAT TIME AND SOMEONE ELSE GET SELECTED WHO
BROUGHT THE MONEY.
3.COLD PROSPECTS
NO NEED TO INFORM THEM. DIRECTLY INVITE THEM FOR INTERVIEW. YOU CAN ALSO INVITE THEM FOR COFFEE MEET.
5. REMEMBER, MORE NO. OF PEOPLE ON THE TABLE, MORE ARE THE CHANCES OF SIGNUPS. AVERAGE IS IF YOU CALL 10 PEOPLE, 2 SIGNUPS.
THATS ALL AND YOU ARE DONE.........................................................................................................
WHAT AN EASY BUSINESS........................
SO THIS PART IS TOLD TO US.........................THINK ABOUT YOUR DREAMS....... WHENEVER YOU FEEL LOW........... THINK ABOUT YOUR PARENTS, FAMILY......... THINK WHAT
WOULD THEY DO INCASE SOME MISHAPPENING HAPPENS................. INCASE BIZ IS NOT GOING IN RIGHT DIRECTION AND NOT FRUITFUL...NEVER FEEL NEGATIVE, DONT LISTEN NEGETIVE
PEOPLE, THINK ABOUT YOUR DREAMS AGAIN... NEVER GIVE UP....... LISTEN TO YOUR UPLINES .... FOLLOW THEM 100 PERCENT.......... WHAT A BEAUTIFUL JOURNEY.....
AWSOME..........
NOW - 2ND PART..........
LETS COME TO REALITY..........
QNET IS A COMPANY JUST LIKE OTHER COMPANIES, SELLS IT PRODUCTS BUT WORKS IN DIFFERENT MANNER, IT SAVES THE MAD COST(MARKETTING, ADVERTISEMENT, DISTRIBUTION) WHICH
COULD BE THE 80-90% OF THE ACTUAL PRICE OF THE PRODUCT, AND DISTRIBUTES SOME PERCENTAGE OF THIS COST IN FORM OF COMISSION TO THE PEOPLE WHO REFERRED THESE PRODUCTS.
THIS COMPANY DEALS IN - HOLIDAY PACKAGE(QVI CLUB), LUXURY WATCHES (CHAIROS, BERNHARD H MAYER), SWISS E-LEARNING COURSES, ENERGY PRODUCTS(CHI PENDANT,BIODISC, VELOCITY,
ENERGY SHELL ETC.), COSMETICS (BIOSILVER, OLE ETC), HEALTH AND NUTRITION (NUTRIPLUS PACKETS, HEALTH DRINK), OTHER PRODUCTS(WATER PURIFIER, AIR PURIFIER,WATER FROM AIR
- THESE ARE NOT AVAILABLE IN INDIA), TABLET (QBRILL - NOT LAUNCHED YET), ACADEMIC EDUCATION - MBBS,B.TECH ETC(IN MALAYSIA) AND SOME MORE.
SO ABSOLUTELY A WIDE RANGE OF PRODUCTS..................
SOME VERY VERY SERIOUS AND ACTUAL POINTS ABOUT THIS BUSINESS:
1. QNET IS THE COMPANY WHICH CHANGED ITS NAMES 3 TIMES, FROM GOLDQUEST TO QUESTNET TO QNET. GOOD COMPANIES CHANGE THEIR NAMES FOR GOOD REASONS. WHY QNET CHANGED ITS
NAMES SO MANY TIMES. QUESTNET WAS SHUTDOWN IN INDIA AND BANNED EARLIER AND HAD VERY BAD IMAGE AND REPUTATION IN LOCAL NEWSPAPERS. SO NAME CHANGED TO QNET FROM QUESTNET
AND LAUNCHED AGAIN AS NEW COMPANY IN INDIA.
IT IS BANNED IN EUROPE, CHINA, IRAN, SRILANKA, NEPAL, QUAIT, AFGANISTAN. GOLDQUEST WAS BANNED IN ENTIRE US AND CANADA. NO GUARANTEE THAT, IT WOULDNT SHUTDOWN AGAIN IN
INDIA.
2. LETS COME TO THE ACTUAL WORKING OF QNET ---
AS IT WORKS ON DIRECT SELLING PRINCIPLE, SO MAD COST IS SAVED AND SOME PART IS DISTRIBUTED AS REFERAL MARGIN OR COMISSION. LETS SAY 12.5 PERCENT ON AVG IS DISTRIBUTED
AS REFERAL MARGIN..IT IS A FACT THAT NOT MORE THAN 25% IS DISTRIBUTED FOR EVERY NEW PRODUCT SOLD (I WILL SHOW YOU HOW, CLICK ON THIS LINK).
IT MEANS - IF 10% IS ACTUAL PRODUCT COST.. 65% IS THE PURE PROFIT TO THE COMPANY.
WHICH MEANS, COMPANY IS MAKING HUGE HUGE PROFIT ON ANY PRODUCT IS SOLD. WHAT ARE YOU GAINING. YOU ARE NOT GETTING SALARY, YOU ARE NOT PAID FOR YOUR HARDWORK, TIME,
SACRIFICE, YOU ONLY GET PAID A VERY LITTLE AMOUNT WHEN YOU HELP COMPANY IN SELLING ITS PRODUCTS.
3. SO THIS COMPANY RUNS ON THE REFERAL PRINCIPAL. YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD THE STATEMENT, IF YOU GO TO A GOOD RESTAURANT AND YOU LIKED THE FOOD, YOU WILL DEFINETELY REFER
IT TO YOUR FRIENDS/FAMILY MEMBERS, AND IN RETURN YOU WILL NOT GET ANYTHING FROM THE RESTAURANT. HERE FOR REFERING GOOD PRODUCTS, YOU GET COMISSION.
SO YOU WILL REFER THE THINGS, IF YOU FIND THE THINGS GOOD TO YOUR CLOSE-ONES.
SO ARE THE THINGS GOOD OR CHEAPER OR WORTH???????
SO LETS COME TO REALITY. IN THIS BUSINESS, APART FROM THE GREEDINESS OF DREAMS,OWN BUSINESS, WE ACTUALLY SELLING THE PRODUCTS FOR THIS COMPANY TO OUR CLOSE-ONES, TO
FAMILY MEMBERS(THEY DONT EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT) AND IN RETURN THEY ARE GIVING US COMISSION FOR SELLING THE PRODUCTS.
A. VACATION PACKAGE: BRONZE PACKAGE - IN 1 LAKH, YOU GET 21 NIGHTS ( 3 WEEKS, 1 WEEK FOR EVERY ALTERNATE YEAR - 1ST, 3RD, 5TH) FROM WIDE RANGE OF HOTELS(3 TO 7 STAR).
APART FROM THIS - YOU NEED TO GIVE 200USD (INR 11000) PER WEEK AS USAGE FEE FOR EVERY WEEK, 118 USD(INR 6500) PER WEEK XCHANGE WORLD FEES - TOTAL 17500 EXTRA FEES.
NOW IN INDIA - IF YOU GO TO XCHANGE WORLD SITE, YOU GET ONLY 4 HOTELS IN INDIA .. 1 IN JAIPUR, 2 IN GOA, 1 IN SHIMLA WITH DOUBLE OCCUPANCY EVERYWHERE.
YOU WOULD BE SURPRISED TO KNOW THAT, ON INTERNET ON SITES, THE PRICE FOR 1 WEEK OF EACH OF THESE HOTELS IS LESS THAN 30,000 INR AND THATS TOO NEGOTIABLE. YOU CAN BOOK
ANY HOTEL, ANY TIME.
AND WITH MORE SURPRISE, I CHECKED FOR EACH AND EVERY HOTEL OF QVI CLUB, ONLINE AND EVERYWHERE THE COST WAS LESS THAN 30K FOR ONE WEEK.
IF YOU WANT TO BOOK HOTELS VIA QVI CLUB, YOU NEED TO BOOK,ATLEAST AROUND 45 DAYS BEFORE, OTHERWISE BOOKING WILL NOT BE POSSIBLE.
PER WEEK YOU GIVE - 33K+17k = 50K IF YOU BOOK VIA QVI CLUB. OUTSIDE QVI, SAME HOTELS, SAME ROOMS, YOU CAN GET BELOW 30K, AND AT ANYTIME OF THE YEAR.
ONCE YOU BOOKED A HOTEL VIA QVI, YOU CANNOT BOOK AGAIN IN NEXT 2 YEARS. IS IT REALLY WORTH???????
YOU NEED TO PAY AROUND 150K TOTAL, FOR THIS VACATION PACKAGE, IN ADVANCE.........AND YOU DONT EVEN KNOW, WHEN WILL YOU GO...............
IS IT WORTH........ IS THIS PRODUCT REFERABLE TO YOUR DEAR ONES........
THE THING IS THAT, THEY JUST PLAY WITH OUR DREAMS, TARGET OUR NEARS AND DEARS TO SELL THEIR WORTHLESS,OVER-EXPENSIVE PRODUCTS.
B. ONLINE SWISS E-LEARNING
COST - 30K, VALIDITY 1 YEAR.
NO VALIDITY OF THE COURSE ANYWHERE.
IS IT WORTH TO REFER AN ONLINE COURSE OF 30K WHICH DOESNT HAVE ANY REPUTATION OR VALIDITY TO ANYONE??????
IF YOU PERSUE ONLINE/DISTANCE-LEARNING MBA FROM SYMBOSIS PUNE OR MANY OTHER REPUTED UNIVERSITIES, THEY WILL PROVIDE ALL THE COURSES ONLINE, STUDY MATERIAL, EXAMS AND A
RENOWNED AND VALID DEGREE WHICH IS ACCEPATABLE EVERYWHEERE IN THE WORLD, AND THE COST IS UNDER 30,000 INR.
C. WRIST WATCHES
COST - FROM 38K TO 135K
I CHECKED WITH MANY FRIENDS AND NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT CHAIROS/BERNHARD H. MAYER BRAND.
CHAIROS WATCHES ARE MADE IN INDIA............ AND PRODUCT OF QNET. THE WATCHES ON YOUR WRIST ARE NOT SWISS MADE, THEY USE SWISS QUARTZ, ANY COMPANY CAN USE, JUST CHECK
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SWISS MADE AND SWISS QUARTZ ON WIKIPEDIA.
SO THE WATCHES WHICH COST 38K ATLEAST, DO YOU THINK ARE WORTH. THE WATCHES OF BRANDS, LIKE ARMANI, CASIO, CITIZEN, FOSSIL, SWISS-EAGLE, SEIKO ARE WORLD FAMOUS AND YOU
GET MUCH MUCH BEAUTIFUL WATCHES IF YOU SPEND 40K MONEY.
ONE EXAMPLE:
I HAVE WRIST WATCH - CASIO - EDIFICE, PURCHAED IT FOR 9995 INR (MRP) FROM LIFESTYLE, IT INCLUDED EVERY SINGLE BIT OF MAD COST.
THE FEATURES ARE - JAPANESE QUARTZ, SCRATCH RESISTANT GLASS, 100 METER WATER RESISTANT, FAMOUS BRAND NAME AND ABOVE ALL ITS MUCH MUCH BEAUTIFUL.
COMPARED IT WITH - LOWEST COST CHAIROS WATCH (INR 20K), SIMPLE GLASS, JAPANESE MOVEMENT, 30 MTR WATER RESISTANT, NO BRAND NAME/VALUE.
IF I PUT BOTH WATCHES TOGETHER - 99% PEOPLE WILL GO FOR CASIO RATHER THAN CHAIROS.
OTHER THING : MOST OF OUR NEARS AND DEARS ARE MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE, THEY NEED LUXURY WRIST WATCHES OR OTHER USEFUL THINGS FOR THEIR DAILY NEED.
APART BIZ, IF I WOULD BE HAVING 40K, I WOULD GO FOR SAMSUNG GALAXY S4 OR BUY A SMART TV OR BUY A LAPTOP OR, OR , OR... THERE ARE SO MANY USEFUL THINGS THAT I CAN BUY
WHICH ALSO MAKE AN IMPRESESSION.
EVEN THE RICH PEOPLE DONT SPEND 50K MONEY ON WATCHES, AND IF THEY SPEND, THEY RATHER GO FOR RADO, TAG-HEUER, ROLEXO WATCHES, RATHER THAN CHAIROS OR BERHHARD MAYER.
D. ENERY PRODUCTS - CHI PENDANT, BIODISC AND OTHER
COST - 22K ATLEAST
BETTER BUY REVITAL, FOR INR 10. IT WILL GIVE YOU SAME ENERGY. WTF, ENERGY PENDANTS WORKING ON ALPHA FREQUENCY.
WENT TO V-CON, AND THESE GUYS DONT EVEN KNOW THE TECHNICAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN VELOCITY AND CHI-PENDANT. YOU SEARCH ONLINE AND YOU WILL GET SUCH ENERGY PENDANT WORKING
ON SAME PRINCIPLES IN 1000 INR.
IF YOU GO TO THE MARKET, AND YOU FIND THESE PENDANTS IN LOCAL STORES, WOULD YOU BUY IT. JUST TOUCH YOUR HEART AND SAY, WOULD YOU BUY THESE VERY VERY EXPENSIVE ENERGY
PRODUCTS IF THESE WERE NOT FORCED YOU TO BUY OUTSIDE QNET BIZ.
E. YET TO COME - QBRILL
THE PRICE IS NOT REVEALED YET, BUT IT WOULD BE OF 1020 BVs. IT MEANS PRICE WOULD BE ATLEAST 32,000 to 35,000 INR.
1.4 GHz QUAD CORE PRCESSOR
1 GB RAM
32 GB INTERAL HARD DRIVE
1200 x 800 RESOLUTION
ASSUMING IT TO BE NEW PRODUCT IN TABLET MARKET WITH VERY VERY LESS BRAND VALUE, LETS COMPARE IT TO OTHER TABLET PRODUCTS E.G. ZYNC TABLET
ZYNC QUAD 10.1
1.5 GHz QUAD CORE PROCESSOR
OCTACORE GPU
2 GB RAM
32 GB HDD
Resolution: 1920 x 1200 pixels
AND PRICE ------- 14,990 INR (MRP)
NO COMPARISON........... HOW THE HELL WE CAN REFER IF THE PRODUCT OF BETTER SPECIFICATIONS IS AVAILABLE IN LESS THAN HALF OF THE COST..????????????
IF YOU TALK ABOUT BRAND NAME, ITS NOT APPLE, ITS NOT SAMSUNG, SONY.. ITS QBRIL AND NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT QBRIL............
SO IN NUTSHELL, THIS COMPANY IS USING US, TO MAKE MONEY FOR THEM FOR THEIR OVEREXPENSIVE, WORTHLESS, WITH NO REAL MARKET VALUE PRODUCTS.
95% PEOPLE IN THIS BUSINESS FAIL.
PEOPLE FAIL, BUT FROM FAILED PEOPLE, COMPANY MADE ITS OWN PROFIT. PEOPLE JOIN THIS BUSINESS FOR BIZ OPERTUNITY NOT FOR ITS PRODUCTS.
WE DO COMITTMENTS WITH OUR NEARS AND DEARS, AND ASK THEM TO DO COMITTMENTS. WHAT FOR THESE 95% FAILED PEOPLE. WHAT IF WE FAIL, OF ANYONE IN MY TEAM QUITS/FAILS, WHO
WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE COMITTMENTS.
THIS IS FIRM GREEDINESS AND NOTHING ELSE. YOU WILL SPOIL YOUR FRIENDSHIPS, RELATIONS AND SOCIAL RESPECT. IT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED WITH MANY AND WILL CONTINUE TO HAPPEN.
I have gone through even a worse experience with these guys. If you have lost any money with QI/Qnet or have been scammed (or know someone who has), try the Economic Offences Wing of the Mumbai Police. They have filed FIRs and taken action against MLM frauds like SpeakAsia and MMM etc on complaints from ordinary people They may get your money back or atleast save others from getting trapped in this scam. Their address is:
Additional Commissioner of Police
Economic Offences Wing
Crime Branch, Mumbai Police
Police Commissioner's Office
Opposite Crawford Market
D N Road, Fort
Mumbai 400 001
shitty Qnet
I also find QNet as fraudulent company. People are becoming blind in the promise that QNET is making to make them rich in a small span of time. Everyone related to Qnet wants to be Ambani. I want people to understand the facts, believe on realistic figures and dont be fooled by such commitments. Its all wastage of time and Money.
I have gone through even a worse experience with these guys. If you have lost any money with QI/Qnet or have been scammed (or know someone who has), try the Economic Offences Wing of the Mumbai Police. They have filed FIRs and taken action against MLM frauds like SpeakAsia and MMM etc on complaints from ordinary people They may get your money back or atleast save others from getting trapped in this scam. Their address is:
Additional Commissioner of Police
Economic Offences Wing
Crime Branch, Mumbai Police
Police Commissioner's Office
Opposite Crawford Market
D N Road, Fort
Mumbai 400 001
Refer page 13 and 14 specifically ... I suppose this is the same document we are all referring to..
Please visit this link
https://docs.google.com/file/d/1rYH48CJcBgd7a7vBJJ7wSAhx367XT_Ty_24uHLY19dFSKTtkMbculXRI3nfI/edit?usp=sharing
this is an RTI reply by Ministry of Finance to Federation of DSA.
It clearly states the new The Money Circulation Schemes (Banning) Rules 2012 which will put QNET out of businees.
All QNET IRs please provide your opinion......
Why is your forum not speaking out against QNet ... the latest is the Davis cup sponsorship .... next what ? corporatising money laundering seems to be the order of the day ... Request we RAISE OUR VOICE TO HELP MANKIND ....
Having worked in the area of Excise and Service tax as a professional one basic premise I have learnt - Ignorance of the law is not an excuse for not following the law and the above mentioned rule on service tax applicability for customer-distributors have been in existence since 2006... Lot of money for our Government especially from the top 20% of the earning members of Qnet or could be more ...
I am not saying that the business is illegal, however, within the existing framework of the law the above needs to be checked and Vihaan's financial records and payouts to all IR's should be verified.
The policy and procedures of Qnet clearly state that an IR is a contractor and not an employee of the company... Therefore QNet themselves declare that IR's are outsourced agents who are promoting their products and services via word of mouth ... earning a commision for doing so and are therefore individual business entities ....
Some interesting facts to be noted:
Also a point to note that while Vihaan is registered with the MCA since Oct 2011, they have yet to file their balance sheet with the ROC at Bangalore. While the e-filing status is active, the digital signature certifacates have expired. One of the directors also holds a position of a director in another company where the same phenomena can be noticed. Understand from colleagues who are CA's that while DSC's are not mandated by MCA it brings about a transparency in the manner in which a company operates.
I was also little surprised to see that one of the directors of Vanamaala tourism (as listed in the MCA company master data) is also an employee of QVI club... A first glance seemed to be a conflict of interest... QVI earns money from the services it sells to IR's, the director also earns money from the services rendered by Vanmaala (takes home a neat profit) .... but who pays for it ... all the IR's. After all the IR's are the only customer this company has....
Prana health resorts - a QVI club resort is owned by one of the members of the management team of QNet... So while an IR utilises the package and also pays Prana Health resort for occupancy, also pays Vanamaala (owned by an employee of QVI) for availaing the services and the yearly usage fee ... I am not sure any more as to what pay backs are happening in the entire system ...
All this has been gathered from the internet ... are facts based on actual links and photos from various forums and I have validated the same with a couple of IRS officers who are known to me... I would like to use this forum for the "MOTIVATED IR's" to check and see for themselves as to how deep the water is before making any further comments ... The social media truly is the 9th wonder of the world....
Dear Mr Forbes,
Hope you are doing fine.
This mail is in regards with articles written by Donald Frazier on QNet and published by Forbes.
Despite clearly saying no to the advances made by Mr Frazier, he continues to use the Moneylife name and that of Sucheta Dalal (Managing Editor, Moneylife) in his promotional articles on behalf of QNet. This is nothing but an attempt to defame a tiny publication like us. We had clearly told him that we have no attention to engage with him on the Forbes website when we run our own publication. Also, we were forced to take note of his writing only because scores of QNetters posted links to Forbes on our website alluding to the great "credibility" of the brand. In fact, all of us have held the Forbes brand in high esteem, so we are alarmed to discover the free run that this columnist apparently has to run campaigns on behalf of Multi-level marketing (MLM) companies and to discredit those who are trying to protect people from falling into the trap.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/donaldfrazie...
We have a more serious reason for writing to you this time. Mr Frazier in his zeal to puff up QNet is now wrong on facts as well. For instance in his latest piece he says, Sucheta Dalal runs "paid" workshops. To quote him: "Sucheta Dalal, an Indian financial journalist who crusades against scams and promotes paid workshops on how to avoid them, made the most of our story, flatly calling Eswaran's company a fraud in her Moneylife blog."
The facts are as follows: The workshops are conducted by Moneylife Foundation, a not-for-profit entity registered with the charity commissioner and entitled to tax exemptions. More importantly they are not PAID workshops but FREE for attendees. Moneylife Foundation and Moneylife magazine enjoys high credibility and our seminars too are attended by members of the police and the Serious Frauds Investigation Office (SFIO) in India.
We are also flummoxed that Mr Frazier is offering to mediate between QNet and Moneylife and also the fact that QNET sends responses to our queries to Forbes, rather than to us and they are published on Frazier's blog post. From when has a global brand like Forbes reduced to bad-mouthing and discrediting a tiny boutique publication in India? Surely there is something more to this than meets the eye.
We are writing this time to bring the facts to your attention. We would also like to state that we will be forced to initiate all action that seems necessary to protect our reputation, including recourse to a lawsuit/s if Frazier is allowed to continue in this manner. Forbes has an Indian publication and we believe there is a cause of action in India as well.
At this juncture, we are confident that a magazine of such high global repute will take all necessary action to rectify the situation. We look forward to hearing from you on the action taken. Ms Dalal has already been in touch with two of your editors Mr Indrajit Gupta (on the previous occasion) and Mr Charles Assisi (this time) and has brought these dubious and defamatory blog posts to their attention. Both had promised to look into the matter. We are now escalating this to your level before planning our next course of action.
Thanks & regards,
Here is the reply Moneylife received....
Dear Mr. xxx:
Steve Forbes passed along your note to him. Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention. I am looking into it and I will get back to you as soon as I learn more.
Best regards,
John Koppisch
Senior Editor
Forbes magazine
Forbes Asia
Firstly, at the time of usage they will charge usage fee which will come to around Rs 3000 per night.
Secondly, the resorts have no ratings. They actually cost only Rs 3000 per night, resulting in complete theft of your Rs 1 lac.
People please be beware - YOU CAN NEVER BECOME RICH WITH THESE SCHEMES.
20 nights are not free..It is clearly written about nominal exchange fees on the website..btw who fooled you ?..one more thing...if you wish to visit the resorts, go abroad..the real value for money..what will you enjoy in India ?
I gace a very logical explanation then why my previous comments and e-mail address has been blocked ??
Thanks for your comment.
As a policy, Moneylife does not accept spamming. And you were found doing the same repeatedly.
Further the logic/explanation mentioned above in the article was sourced from QNet itself. Therefore your claims that your logical explanation is more relevant or true than QNet sound strange.
Moneylife had also specified that action would be taken against spammers, under the FAQ section. It reads "Moneylife reserves the right to remove any comment that does not comply with our Terms of Use."
Moneylife Team
The issue is about the way in which QNET operates, their compensation plan and their sales pitch.
In QNET there is no actual retail sales. The only way to earn commission is to recruit more people into the scheme and to make repeat purchases for rank advancement.
When a person is recruited as an IR the person who referred him and his uplines earn the same amount of commission, this gives more incentive for recruiting people than for making actual sales.
Actual retail sales is virtually non-existent in QNET. Nobody in his right mind would buy a QNET product as a retail customer. They are terribly overpriced and some of their products are vague (bio disc, chi pendant etc.)
Bottom line without showing their pitch, "the dream of getting rich", QNET products are actually unsaleable in the open market.
The sale of product is just a garb for the money circulation that happens in the company.
QNET has an unsustainable, faulty, exploitative and potentially illegal business model.
It is a product based pyramid scheme operating in a binary compensation model.
india pune
i heard about this business last week and i am not sure or i don't have sufficient information regarding this business and company but my one of my friend told about this business and she is getting good money compare to her salary and she left the job also.
so pls guide me is this business is good or his product and company certification are legal.
bcs i dont want to cheat someone who will be my relative or friends,
[email protected]
Why was it goldquest earlier?
Why was it Qquest earlier ?
Do you have any answers ?
I'm sure when any medical emergency strikes at your home, you dont visit the doc, and try googling for solutions! lol!
As you've already mentioned Forbes in your article, why dont you write up against Forbes next? here is to help you out there Mr.Man on a mission to Mars!
http://www.forbes.com/sites/donaldfrazie...
Thank you, dont choose to delete my comment, delete ur stupid article instead (if you're honest to yourself in the mirror)
Wanted to ask you one more thing.. where do you cough up such horrible analogies from? this medical emergency wala stupid statement, this sachin tendulkar scoring century wala crap..all that?? Complex psyche and vague thinking :)
Qnet responsible for all that huh?
Do answer..would love to hear from you..but please this time make sure you spare me with all the stupid anology you use in writing comments!!
Wanted to ask you one more thing.. where do you cough up such horrible analogies from? this medical emergency wala stupid statement, this sachin tendulkar scoring century wala crap..all that?? Complex psyche and vague thinking :)
Qnet responsible for all that huh?
Do answer..would love to hear from you..but please this time make sure you spare me with all the stupid anology you use in writing comments!!
If not, then you should keep your mouth shut..
You are not part of this industry..
you dont know a bit..
people with mindset like you who are against every single thing which exist under the sun.. created huge damage to society..
I wont say people but the mindset... killed Jesus Christ, Aristotle and many more.
Carry on.. best of luck.
http://www.vandruff.com/mlm.html
Math and Common Sense
MLMs work by geometric expansion, where you get ten to sponsor ten to sponsor ten, and so on. This is usually shown as an expanding matrix (just don't say "pyramid"!) with corresponding kick-backs at various levels.
The problem here is one of common sense. At a mere three levels deep this would be 1,000 people. There goes the neighborhood! At six levels deep, that would be 1,000,000 people believing they can make money selling. But to whom? There goes the city! And the MLM is just getting its steam going. Think of all the meetings! Think of all the "dreams" being sold! Think of the false hopes being generated. Think of the money being lost.
It Will Fail??? It Cannot Fail???
Nothing irritates a die-hard MLMer more than the preceding argument. If you point out the absurdity, for example, that if "the pitch" at an QNet meeting were even moderately accurate, in something like 18 months QNet would be larger than the GNP of the entire Singapore, then listen closely for a major gear-shift: "Well, that is absurd, of course. Not everyone will succeed, and so the market will never saturate."
Well, which is it? Are we recruiting "winners" to build a real business, or planning by design to profit off of "losers" who buy into our "confidence"?
During "the pitch," anyone can make it work. "It's the opportunity of a lifetime." "Just look at the math!" But mention the inevitable saturation and the losses this is going to cause for everyone, and then you'll hear, "Of course it would never really work like that." "Most will fail," you will be told, "but not you, Mr. Recruit. You are a winner. I can just see it in your eyes."
If you are a starry-eyed recruit, it will grow as presented. If you are a logical skeptic, then of course it would never really work like that.
But the dialog usually never even gets to this. The fact that MLM is in a mad dash to oversupply is largely chided as mere "stinkin' thinkin'." Expert MLMers know how to quickly deflect this issue with parable, joke, personal testimony, or some other sleight of mind.
You're talking abt 100% expansion, you're talking of having colgate tootbrush n toothpaste in every household on this planet. Fact is some people like to use closeup, pepsodent, sensodyne... you do some research and find out the brands of every toothpaste in this world. thats ur homework for today. And secondly, why do you charge to make premium members on ur "free advice" website? i smell money making "scam" "scheme"
The world has moved forward and you are still stuck at the same point?
Read the details...
http://www.moneylife.in/article/forbes-m...
QNET responds to Money life:
http://qnetscam.com/qnet-responds-to-mon...
# QNET responds to Money life
Please follow the link:
http://qnetscam.com/qnet-responds-to-mon...
To accept the responses as an official statement from Qnet,cant we have the same posted on official Qnet India site?
Why doesnt Qnet ever comes clean on allegations and always defend itself via its IRs & some unauthorized websites
talking about content, none of the responses are backed by logic or facts, mere excuses and referring things which cant be validated
if u know swimming, im sure the fear of drowning will never let u step into the water.
Moreover i actually felt like slapping these joker who were thinking by earning some obscene amount of money they have become great n all. Comparing themself with the like great people like Gandhi etc.
So what if you have managed to be the first joker to join this and by virtue of that you are making money. Not to underestimate your capability of duping people by selling them a impossible dream.
There are also lots of mafia, drug lords in Russia and south America who make lot of money that doesn’t mean they become great and to be idolized.
The sad part about this concept is that it’s so lame, hollow and materialistic.
Every bugger on stage kept bragging on at ICON in pune that how this concept has changed them as a person. They have quality time with family, money is not the issue in their life any more.
But on the contrary i felt they don’t have any purpose left in life, it like they are doped with this obsession of making money.
I would have appreciated if even one bugger would have said that i am doing this for charity like hospital, school or even something for environment but nothing. Just bragging about their German cars and other shit like that.
And yaa when one of the speakers unfortunately asked a question how many of you present here have not made any money from QI till now. (around 10000 people were there )
Surprisingly 95% people raised their hand and still clapped ( what bunch of idots, truth is in front of them but still they cant see it)
learn about gratitude. if ur a father and when ur small kid aspires to be like you one day, ask him to shut up and never get inspired by u cuz a small kid hasnt been successful yet so he has no right to look up to be successful according to ur logic(thats if u have been successful)
Your need to draw right co-relation while putting forth an argument – anyways comparing Sachin with Qnet is like juxtapose (sorry for inconvenience dude you might need to refer dictionary here).
You said something about learning about gratitude.. I think people who have made it big in qnet should learn about humbleness. And if they are making lot of money instead of just taking about buying German made car should also do something better for humanity. While west is going towards philanthropy likes of warren buffet , bill gates , mark zukarberg are taking oath about donating their wealth to eradicate problem faced by humanity. QINET leader only talk about presentation, registration & training and then how they can buy German made cars by swiping their debit card. If you say it’s not show off I beg to disagree.
Second rule don’t get personal in a blog but as you did I had no choice but to reply
About teaching my children whom to get inspired that they will decide on their own as the value which they will inculcate will make them a strong independent person with rationale to understand what wrong or right in life.
In your last line you talked about if I become successful, would be great if you can share your linkedin profile would be interesting to see how successful you are by the way you can check mine - Google my name first one is mine.
One last word I don’t have anything against QNET as I have not invested anything in it nither I will I future. If you are making money and future out of it good for you and would be great if everyone who has joined makes money. But sadly this is an era of great falls – lehman brother, lance Armstrong, tiger woods, kingfisher are few exp – I am not trying to be pessimist but only caution is don’t follow anything blindly probe and keep probing because it’s not only your money but you are also carrying the weight of trust and dream which you have sold to people under you.
As it said although cliché “with great power come great responsibility”..
“Absolute power corrupts absolutely”
I hope you make right choice & exercise you responsibility.
Out of context –
One more thing your event management is one area of vast improvement – i attended ICON pune because of a close friend request. It was 4000 Rs for one day entry and food for horrible to say the least. I hope no profit making is happening in event like these.
Your need to draw right co-relation while putting forth an argument – anyways comparing Sachin with Qnet is like juxtapose (sorry for inconvenience dude you might need to refer dictionary here).
You said something about learning about gratitude.. I think people who have made it big in qnet should learn about humbleness. And if they are making lot of money instead of just taking about buying German made car should also do something better for humanity. While west is going towards philanthropy likes of warren buffet , bill gates , mark zukarberg are taking oath about donating their wealth to eradicate problem faced by humanity. QINET leader only talk about presentation, registration & training and then how they can buy German made cars by swiping their debit card. If you say it’s not show off I beg to disagree.
Second rule don’t get personal in a blog but as you did I had no choice but to reply
About teaching my children whom to get inspired that they will decide on their own as the value which they will inculcate will make them a strong independent person with rationale to understand what wrong or right in life.
In your last line you talked about if I become successful, would be great if you can share your linkedin profile would be interesting to see how successful you are by the way you can check mine - Google my name first one is mine.
One last word I don’t have anything against QNET as I have not invested anything in it nither I will I future. If you are making money and future out of it good for you and would be great if everyone who has joined makes money. But sadly this is an era of great falls – lehman brother, lance Armstrong, tiger woods, kingfisher are few exp – I am not trying to be pessimist but only caution is don’t follow anything blindly probe and keep probing because it’s not only your money but you are also carrying the weight of trust and dream which you have sold to people under you.
As it said although cliché “with great power come great responsibility”..
“Absolute power corrupts absolutely”
I hope you make right choice & exercise you responsibility.
Out of context –
One more thing your event management is one area of vast improvement – i attended ICON pune because of a close friend request. It was 4000 Rs for one day entry and food for horrible to say the least. I hope no profit making is happening in event like these.
Forget preaching about whom other's children should aspire to be like..u better start praying that your children(i.e. if u have children or rather if somebody has had the courage to marry you) dont become like you..all gas!!
And hey..im not trying to get personal but i think you should know this..writing 'lol' in your own mail only makes people laugh at you and not your intended jokes or your lame attempts at making one.
Forget preaching about whom other's children should aspire to be like..u better start praying that your children(i.e. if u have children or rather if somebody has had the courage to marry you) dont become like you..all gas!!
And hey..im not trying to get personal but i think you should know this..writing 'lol' in your own mail only makes people laugh at you and not your intended jokes or your lame attempts at making one.
QNET will be on Bloomberg International this coming Sunday, 9th December 2012! http://t.co/vZM4i3ut
QNET will be featured on Bloomberg’s “21st Century Business”, an award-winning business programme which showcases companies that provide opportunities in emerging markets.
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Dato Seri Vijay Eswaran, Managing Partner, QI Group will give the key note address at Global Indian Business Meet powered by QNET to be aired on Saturday 8th at 2.30pm and rerun on Sun 9th at 10.30am on Zee Business, please make sure to watch ZEE BUSINESS.... :))
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Math and Common Sense
http://www.vandruff.com/mlm.html
MLMs work by geometric expansion, where you get ten to sponsor ten to sponsor ten, and so on. This is usually shown as an expanding matrix (just don't say "pyramid"!) with corresponding kick-backs at various levels.
The problem here is one of common sense. At a mere three levels deep this would be 1,000 people. There goes the neighborhood! At six levels deep, that would be 1,000,000 people believing they can make money selling. But to whom? There goes the city! And the MLM is just getting its steam going.
Think of all the meetings! Think of all the "dreams" being sold! Think of the false hopes being generated. Think of the money being lost.
Pyramid schemes are illegal. They are illegal because they are exploitative and dishonest. They exploit the most vulnerable of people: the desperate, the out-of-work, the ignorant. Those who start and practice such fraud, should, and increasingly are, being punished for their crimes.
But add a product for cover, and call it an MLM, and people are willing to swallow its legality. Is this true? Really? Who says so?
It is a fact that a few large MLMs have survived against the best efforts of law enforcement officials to shut them down, spending millions of dollars to protect, lobby, and insulate themselves. But the same could be said for any organized crime. It is difficult to stop once it becomes so large.
And MLMs look so legitimate to the public, so decent. So many nice people are involved. Surely, it can't be illegal! The people lower down may even defend the very organization that is robbing them, hoping that they might get their chance to make "the big money" later.
But if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it probably is a duck. Unless it is an MLM, and then it is NOT a pyramid.
Talk to a mobster, and he will tell you that he is "merely misunderstood in his benevolent intentions." "We are just trying to 'build our business.'" "It's all a conspiracy to make us look bad." "The Feds are out to get us because they are jealous or afraid of our new way of life." "Why, look at all the good we do!" "We are looking more legitimate every day." "Here's a statement from a famous DA that the Mob is really a good organization and no harm ever comes from it." "We've even got a minister to endorse us now!"
If money is needed that badly, why not simply ask friends and family for help rather than taking money from them under false pretenses--and also selling them a bill of goods? By "sponsoring" them, you have not only conned them and profited at their expense, you have made them feel like losers, since they are not able to make a success of the hopeless MLM concept.
Once seen, only the morally blind, or consciously criminal, could continue in such a "business."
But wait, perhaps you could recruit... your mother!
provided by MoneyLife is mind blowing....uhhhhh.......
I can feel sudden sensation of blood in my body while reading this article...
It is true to a large extend since I was also part of QNET and their systems (training) for quite a some time....I can full correlate my personal experience with my near and dear once...the way I was thinking about them...
It must be my bad karma's that I got trapped by QNET and wasted my lot of time and money....
It will be one of the biggest learning experience for me...
Thanks to God for giving me the wisdom just at the right time to sense that QNET is a pyramid scheme and I should get out of it, even though it means a big financial loss for me....I did it by breaking this endless fooling of near and dear ones at my level at least...
There is a urgent need of putting a blanket ban on all pyramid scheme (including QNET) before they break the basic fabrics of human relationship where people will stop trusting the motive of their own near and dear one....
God...please save the country from this cancer...
MoneyLife team, your crusade against pyramid scheme have the potential to influence the life of lacs of innocent citizens.....Please put your heart and soul to fight out this disease from our county...
May God bless you !!!
I read your comment. My family has gone through this experience. If you have lost any money with QI/Qnet or have been scammed (or know someone who has), try the Economic Offences Wing of the Mumbai Police. They may get your money back or atleast save others from getting trapped in this scam. Their address is:
Additional Commissioner of Police
Economic Offences Wing
Crime Branch, Mumbai Police
Police Commissioner's Office
Opposite Crawford Market
D N Road, Fort
Mumbai 400 001
If you live in another State, send the complaint to the Economic Offences Wing of that state. Let us make an effort to stop others from being taken for a ride
Go to google news and type "Qnet"... it is not there.. earlier it was at the topppp!!!
Guess why all the articles by Moneylife are going off google news.. well just go and checkout rules and regulatons :) :) :)
Thanx a lot for indirectly admitting your MLM company is banned in India.
;-))
Only 3 to 4% people make money from QNET. Rest 96 to 97% people losses their initial investment.
I know that no one invest in QNET. People buy products from QNET. But who will buy QNET product if they are not offered fantastic business opportunity to become caropati in next 3 to 4 years?
The point is, if 96 to 97% people are losing their hard earned saving in buying worthless QNET products than what kind of value addition QNET is doing to the country as a whole?
Country would be much better of if such fraud companies are banned (like it has been already done by many other countries).
Such kind of arguments were given by people who joined SpeakAsia, StockGuru, GoldQuest and only after few years of efforts, they realize that it was not the worth investing money & efforts.
If they would have done better productive work in the mean time, they would have done better service to their company/family/country.
10 ppl join gym wanting to look like salman khan. 3 ppl quit in 5 days. only 1-2 ppl survive till the 30th of d month. guess all of them "invested" in d gym membership. works out to d same ratio everywhere for quitters inc!
Works out to d same ratio everywhere for losers inc!
Oh wait..that reminds me of a saying:
You can fool all people for some time,
Some people for all the time(hey..this ones for u)
But you cannot fool all the people
for all the time.
Works out to d same ratio everywhere for losers inc!
Oh wait..that reminds me of a saying:
You can fool all people for some time,
Some people for all the time(hey..this ones for u)
But you cannot fool all the people
for all the time.
check the link here:
http://startupdispatch.com/startups/remi...
so what happened to the hard earned money of all those 95% people who invested in all the other business in this world?
There is a difference between start up business being not successful vs failure in QNET.
At the time of presentation in QNET, people gets lured by showing the plan of earning carores of rupees in 3 to 4 years. At that time, no one tells that the products are exorbitantly highly priced & does not offer value for money and there are only 3 to 4% people, who ever recover there investment from QNET.
Many of the people like me does not try to convince anyone to join the business once they realize that it is a pyramid scheme. So people like me, just cut the losses and don't try to fool their own relatives and friends to buy worthless products at exorbitantly high prices and prefer to break this cycle of endless fooling our own near and dear ones.
Other people who fails are, who can't sell these exorbitantly high price products because they find it too difficult to convince others and ultimately quit the business to focus on other morally and ethically sensible business/work.
So there is no comparison between the two failures.
http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_GGC_Mem...
All my point here is a source of information also matters. what are the government sources or world renowned organisations saying over what a person just giving his/her personal opinion.
http://www.marussiaf1team.com/news/219/v...
FORBES..
http://www.forbes.com/global/2011/0718/h...
Please see the first name in Malaysia list.The founder of QI- Datuk Vijay Eswaran!
Are you Monik or Manik Mehta?
There are three kind of people in this world--
1.Those who only give opinions, for eg Media, Public blogs. they have never been part of any venture but they love to give advices. It is like a leather smith telling a surgeon how to operate on human body.
2. Those who had tried something but failed. More number of people fail than successful at any venture, sports, entrance exams. For eg. How many people appear for IIT JEE and how many people get through, its less than even a percent. As per Sucheta Dalal IIT is also Illegal. So any person who is a failure would try to make everything about a venture, organisations, event look impossible or tough. That is nothing but her personal opinion to cover up her own incompitancy. People need "MASSALA" and that is what media sales and people like Sucheta Dalal sells cheap.
3. People who have done something and have a successful at it. these people are in position to discuss the subject matter and can tell difference between above mentioned two kind of people.
Eventually, success of any business is not driven by statistics but rather the performance of business owner.
The only basic basic explanation why majority people fail at QNET business is the same reason why they fail at any other big business in the world and that is the same reason why a country like India is still not rich, is because of people are simple to be mislead by people like Sucheta Dalal.
Are there more number of people wealthy in this world or less number of people? 80-20 rule is followed universaly but to understand this one has to have good understanding of economics and business world. Please read about Dr. Charles King, UN Director for Environmental Health Mr. Bakarey Kante, Mr. Michael Ferreira(Padam Bhushan, 4 times world champion junior billiards from India), Mr. Paul Ferreira(ex national level tennis player from India), Mr.Muttiah Muralitharan, Mr. Saurav Ganguly and many more highly successful people from IITs, IIMs, Lawyers, Doctors.
Who is Sucheta Dalal?????
u said "Eventually, success of any business is not driven by statistics but rather the performance of business owner"
Excuse me..but is success according to you making big money solely? Even the underworld goons make a lot of money..bigger, better than you at Qnet..would u call them successful??? There isnt much difference between what you both are doing in terms of profession!!!
Person like Sucheta Dalal and their MoneyLife team, have warned and saved our ordinary citizens from many scams like SpeakAsia, NMart etc. It is not Robert Kiyosaki, Sir Richard Branson, Bill Clinton, Dr. Charles King, Mr. Michael Ferreira, Mr.Muttiah Muralitharan, Mr. Saurav Ganguly who will be warning you from such scams. Most of above mentioned people does it as part of advertizement for which company pays them. These people are doing it for earning money for them self.
So you should respect what person like Sucheta has done in the past and what they are doing it now.
Qnet is sponsored partner of Marussia Team. And if you understand partnership it means they have came together to financially & logistically support an event. It does not mean that they are giving any clean chit for their business.
You are using Richard Branson's name to promote your brand without his consent. Its reminds me of political posters around city where the local goons put their faces next to national leaders and than brag about they being "blessed" by these National leaders.
For other tall claims about big daddys supporting you, kindly refer this article,
http://joinnetworkmarketing.wordpress.co....
Manikchand sponsored Filmfare for so many years, does that mean Gutkha consumption is justified?
Cheers
Instead of guiding us to the library or internet, come to the point. OK. There are many successful people in the world. For argument, let us also concede, failures are more. Tell us what you want to convey. And finally, who is Sucheta Dalal ? If you want readers to know something more about Sucheta Dalal and relevant to MLM, tell us. Beating around the bush doesn't help.
Sir..these people are trained properly to beat around the bush..you see thats all these losers do when they make a presentation to you..when the jokers(owners)of this Company go on stage to yap..beat around the bush!! thats all..
Ashok bro.. why are you wasting your time here? Trust me whatever logic you will give, nobody will hear as they have come with a point to defame QNET, and I am sure they will succeed to an extent, where some morons will fall prey to it. It is ok. If some whimps fall for this, let them baba.
But remember the 10-7-4-2 law of average. Just keep on going and talking to 10 ppl. 2 will join hands with you.
For the fact let me tell you all that 80% of the people at first place doing join you. Then 80% of the people who join you don't stay after 1 year... then 80% of the remaining 20% leave in the second year.. and then 80 of 20 leave in the third year.. so ultimately, the people who make big money is no more than 3-4% of the total who join.. and these 3-4% are who choose to stick.
By the way Ashok do you know that we have fought cases in Supreme court and won all of them in India. Supreme court has allowed us to do business in India. This is the reason why since 2003 (the time we are operational in India) we have not been banned.
You know people like these have come and gone. Let them do what they do best. Crib and cry foul. Let us not waste too much time here.
Remember what Arun George says,.. when a 200 ton truck is moving towards you, you don't try to stop it.. you just step aside and let it go... :)
My hats off to you guys for taking a fraud company like QNet. You deserve much bigger award than Padma Shri.
Please accept my heart felt congratulations for taking the initiative to remove this cancer from our country.
Unfortunately our government is sleeping over such a big cancer and being engaged in their own scandals. But you are doing commendable job in waking up our sleeping government and high lighting a problem which could create havoc in the life of many innocent citizens !!!
May God bless you all with all the strength to fight out this QNet cancer from our country !!!
You will end up losing your hard earned money. In this process, you will also end up losing the trust which your relatives and friends have in you once they will realize that you were being fooled by some one else. In this process, you fooled them to earn money.
We should not earn money by cheating our own relatives and friends. This whole of the business model of cheating our own relatives and friends, is a cancer on our society which should be surgically removed with out showing any mercy.
I raised my these queries with my upline and he informed me that QNet is offering you the business opportunity. So I was told not to bother about the value offered by QNet products but to focus on the business opportunity.
I was expected to exploit my relationship with my friends and relatives to sell these worth less products.
My consciousness did not allow me to fool my own relatives and friends to sell these worthless products.
I attended many of their systems (i.e. trainings) and underline message of the training will be to ignore people who would be asking for the values of their products. Most of the IRs, I interacted admitted that the products of QNet does not offer value for money. It is just a business of making new members. In the training, trainer told us that mostly new members will join this business if you show that you have strong belief on the company and it's products. So you need to fake it that you have very strong belief on the company and it's product. While selling, we were told that you need to focus on the business opportunity (which is making new members and getting the commission on the products being sold) and not on the actual value of the products.
How on the earth, then QNet can be called as Network Marketing company if their products does not offer value for money?
In the training, we were told that QNet offers products through referral to cut down MAD cost (Marketing, advertizement and Distribution cost). If the company is cutting down the cost by selling the products through referral than the products should be cheaper than they are available else where. But QNet products are exorbitantly priced.
Since their business model is mainly based on offering commission on the money invested by the new members, that is clear case pyramid scheme. Products are just concealing their ponzi/pyramid nature of their business.
QNet is making fool of the general public and looting the money without adding any value to our country.
QNet (and any of the their future form) should be banned for life in India. Earlier they were doing business by selling cheap gold coins and now they have invented new ways to cheat people by changing their name.
If any one wants to take this discussion off-topic and discuss you can mail me at my email ID ( you can find that somewhere in the comment trail below)
Have a great day and God Bless you all !!
Only the most despicable and dubious companies, running shady operations will have some self-proclaimed IR to answer official queries, while the official spokesperson evades official answers.
Also, Mr Kamath (which may or may not be his name) has earlier called himself a Goa based businessman, later, just a buyer of QNET products and after a machine-run rate of responses to Moneylife articles - finally admitted that he is a QNET IR.
No legitimate IR would spend so much time answering queries, instead of keeping himself buys with hawking products and dealerships. So clearly, it is QNET's top management which is pretending to answer in the guise of an IR.
Now why would they want to use such subterfuge? Only one possible reason -- QNET does not want to officially stand by these answers, or they would have been officially provided!
Isnt it astonishing that a 'mere' IR is able to provide such detail when the company quibbles?
so I have all the time to sit on my bed and gather info from net and reply to you.
anyway all this really does not matter. true colors are revealed and I am truly astonished that you are an accomplished writer or so they say... all that I have is Just pity you. very sad indeed.
Go ahead and bash me. this is your forum. your readers your pets. what a biased forum ...sad and pathetic state of journalism...
Hamara Bharath Mahaan. bye
I have always admitted that I am a QNet IR right from beginning. prove me if I said anything wrong.
and finally I am doing all this coz there are some QNet bashers in society whose only sole aim is to bash some company and all I did was did some research and got some info. all the info is available on net. If you want I will give the links where I got all the details.
Anyways Sucheta unfortunately when I have been polite with you, all you have done is put me down and abuse me.
Nevertheless people around are educated they can see through the whole thing. remember truth prevails always.
It was a waste of my time and energy to go all the way in this forum. Anyway I can see through your mail. I feel sorry for you.
I did ask Dr Samir Kelekar about you. he said you tried to sell him QNET and he sent you this article, which is how you have got stuck to thsi page as a self-appointed spokesperson.
why do people shun Amway as if it is leprosy even though it is a fortune 500 company and is in operation for over 5 decades.
so many questions to ponder..
Either you are not understanding the facts or you are pretending to be a naive.
Every MLM company has its own DNA and way they have their own corporate governance.
You cannot compare any single MLM company with another one, and questions like "Why dont you raise finger on that company?" are childish. Its like a traffic offender fighting with police "Usko kyon nahi pakada?"
You are consistently ignoring the questions we have raised and hiding your dubious identity.
Kindly make up your mind whether you are a businsessmen in Goa or a QNet IR, stop giving us the contradictory statements and stop confusing readers.
And for your information, here are the checklist for Good / Not So Good MLM companies
http://fraud.org/pyramids/pyramid_mlm.ht...
I am an engineer by qualification and a Marine Surveyor by profession. I run my own company at Vasco, Goa and have branches in Mangalore, Karwar and Bangalore.
My full time profession is Marine survey and QNet is my spare time job. I do it on week ends and when I am free.I do QNet Biz for about a few hours a week like 10-15 hours mostly on saturdays and sundays.
so please tell me what are my contradictory statements and confusing readers?
Dear Ashok
In other article on this site, you wrote this,
"No Sucheta, I dont know much about MLMs as I run my own business at Goa. I just laid some facts. I give a damn to any MLM company. If it is a fraud and there are many out there, yes we must defend and save our friends from falling prey to it. I call spade a spade. "
and in this post you are writing that you are an IR with Qnet
Chakkar kya hai dost?
I agree that fraudulent companies should be bought to book and banned as they suck the very life of an unsuspecting common man. It is sad that many people have lost their hard earned money in scams involving MLM and direct sales.
and yes many are pyramid schemes. when the concept of direct selling to the end user from manufacturer cutting down the middle men and the cost incurred fades and recruiting people becomes the priority, the pyramid model raises its head and it is illegal.
Yes Abhishek, I am an IR with QNet, but I have not spared them I have asked them the very questions that are raised in this forum and many many more questions. I call a spade a spade and if it is illegal then it is.
I am just a ordinary guy boss running my own company in Goa and been with QNet recently. let me try to answer your questions.
1. What is your organization hierarchy in India?
In India the company has a subsidiary called Vihaan Direct Selling India Pvt Ltd. Its office is in Bangalore. the office is to co-ordinate the biz related matters. i dont know about Hierarchy as I have never asked. but next time when I go to Bangalore I will try to find out about that.
2.Why have you not accepted by IDSA like Hindustan lever?
It should happen soon and the process in on. QNet earlier operated on principle of one time product sale to get into this biz opportunity. I have been questioning this very point as one time selling a product to get into biz does not qualify as direct selling as there should be repeated sales of product to end user. Now the company has come up with repeat sales product such as nutrition, home accessories etc which cost as less as 1 or 2K per product. but as I said IDSA membership should happen soon.
3.Do you inform RBI,SEBI about your activities in India?
Yes. the company deducts TDS and gives Form 16 at the year end. I believe this is not possible with the knowledge of RBI. correct me if I am wrong as my knowledge in these matters in nil.
4.Do you guys pay tax in India? How much tax you paid in 2011-12?
Vihaan was incorporated in April to comply with the statutary guidelines of govt. the company is registered under Companies Act, 1956 & allotted No. U52399KA2011PTC060730 and VAT No: 29500670395 & Service Tax No: AADCV8173FSD001. so guess they should pay tax in the coming year and things are in order.
5.Any dispute with Qnet comes under India Jurisdiction or under HK Jurisdiction?
Dispute comes under Bangalore court jurisdiction as the company is registered there.
6.Can I have look at your annual financial reports?
I dont know about that as I am just an IR. But yes I can make efforts to get you that and at any event we have to wait till the next march as Vihaan was incorporated this year.
7.Why do you conduct your sessions in CCD? No offices in India? (in 14 years)
Interesting question. we are not staff of QNet, we are independent representatives. it is our biz not qnets. qnet pays us a commission if we refer the product to somebody. so why would Qnet provide their office for us? If it is my biz I carry it where I want to do it right? and CCD are the place which has ambience for showing the presentation. apart from CCD the IRs meet at residences ( at Goa we meet at my flat not in any CCD) and then there is the matter of posture :) they say in QNet that this is a million dollar biz so we have to have a posture befitting the biz that we do and CCD's seem to compliment that posture. that is what I think of, but CCD is not the rule, it is just convenience for the prospect and the presenter too.
Abhishek, I dont defend MLM or direct sales, infact I am a staunch opponent as I have seen many of my friends loose money in Japan life and speak asia. hard earned money go down the drain. I joined this biz on trust and so far I am happy with it and my team is happy. I have just given but what ever I have known about QNet in particular and my learning of this industry in general.
So does it mean they were illegally operating for 14 years without any traces of existence in government books?
If tomorrow the company goes bust, who will be framed? Qnet or Vihaan India?
You need to understand that Qnet is taking every bit of care so that they will not be traced and booked legally, hence there are no registered offices, proper governance structure. So tomorrow when you all will be duped, you can never catch hold of them.
Talking about product purchases,
Will you buy Gold jewellery from street hawker? will you get a medical treatment from a doctor who is running his show from Maruti Omni Van? Then how can you put your hard earned money into a company which is non existent in India?
well once the biz grew there was a need for an office and now Vihaan is there.
If tomorrow company goes bust??? well tell me QNet is like any other company on this planet. please see this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bus...
what have you to comment about this huge list of failures?
so dont speak about bust. every company has a fair chance to succeed or go bust. some succeed some fail.
talking about product purchases.
will you buy a product from a swiss company which is 150 year old? will you buy a vacation from a company which owns resorts around the globe?
Bottom line is I will buy a product if I like it and I am convinced about it. I dont see who is the regulator of it, its service tax number, its registration number, and all per se.. if that is the case there will never be a single chinese product in Indian market that too sold clandestinely and purchased by the majority ( of course coz it is cheap why else)
Will you see the brand or see the credibility of seller?
Its not only important what you are buying, its also important by which channel you are buying...
And to answer your link on wikipedia entry , i would like to give the wiki page of Qnet which clearly tells you that its a fraud
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qnet
but as the report says all MLM are not fraud. Hindustan Unilever limited, a premier company in India has a direct selling unit. they follow direct selling principles to generate business. and I am sure they are legitimate.
check this site: http://www.huln.co.in/about_us.aspx.
so there are some legitimate companies too in this business model.
I believe you are completely unaware of History of MLM in India, Many MLM’s are pulled in the court and all of them either shutdown or ran away because of non-competent law in this country who couldn’t catch the culprits.
It’s a country of 1 billion and there is enough fish in the sea, so the fraud companies like QuetsNet aka Qnet keep on popping up every now and then. And NGOs like moneylife have to run their awareness drive once again.
But you made a very valid point, we should inform people about the MLM driven frauds & infact about many other forms of fraud happening in country.
I have never said that all MLMs are fraud, but most of them are pyramid schemes, With having a very thin line separating them its almost impossible for a normal person to distinguish between them.
Don’t worry about criminal cases against Qnet, they are on the way, But are you trying to say that people should not be warned about Qnet. Unless it is proven in court
Qnet people should try to explain common man how great they are & we will try to convince people that its illegal & unethical. Let people decide who is right and who is not.
When you invite people in closed door seminars , we don’t put an objection. And being a free country we put our opinion on the web for everyone to see. So whats wrong In that, Why is so kolaveri by QR reps here?
Atleast we are daring to discuss it openly whereas Qnet officials are hiding in closet. Forget me, even Qnet reps do not know who are the bosses in India running the show.
BTW I am wondering if you are associated with Qnet, I would love to hear some answers from you.
1. What is your organization hierarchy in India?
2. Why have you not accepted by IDSA like Hindustan lever?
3. Do you inform RBI,SEBI about your activities in India?
4. Do you guys pay tax in India? How much tax you paid in 2011-12?
5. Any dispute with Qnet comes under India Jurisdiction or under HK Jurisdiction?
6. Can I have look at your annual financial reports?
7. Why do you conduct your sessions in CCD? No offices in India? (in 14 years)
Hope my questions are not offending
http://www.vijayawadapolice.org/index.ph...
especially the closing lines
"MLM schemes destroy the well knitted social fabric of our Indian society and make your house as well as your neighborhood a market. It is an appeal seeking your co-operation with the Investigating Agencies to curb such menace and nip it in the bud before it engulfs the gullible Public."
can you give your facebook ID please? Thanks and Rgds
What worries me now is the kind of media that is being portrayed here.
I have been in media myself, of course not as experienced and as respected as Ms. Sucheta Dalal. But I do know some facts about Media and Journalism.
I am writing this both as an audience and also as someone who knows little bit about media.
I read articles in the leading newspapers and magazines. None of them are judgmental in nature.
Until it is proven in the honble court of law, media has no rights to pass the judgement. The title of the article could have been.. "Is QNET which was alleged to be running a scam back in action again?"
The entire content of the article and the title, everything is judgemental.
It is absolutely fine to bring up an issue. If QNET is a scam, it must be tried. But media can only bring it up. It is only suspected. Not proven in the court of law. It cannot be judgemental.
This is just about sensationalizing things!!
I don't know whether QNET is a scam or not, if it is I have full faith in Indian Judiciary system.
I did have a few personal interactions with Ms. Dalal over email and we could not reach to anything conclusive.
Arindam, I think you are not misusing this platform. Similarly, it is clear to an ordinary reader that Ashok kamath is also here with a purpose - that being to defend MLMs.
if u dont defend ur vocation, im sure u dont enjoy ur chosen field of interest. and according to u, if ur defend it.. means u have some hidden motive ;-)
1) Why is there 50-50 positive/negative difference of voices about qnet?
2) If Qnet is a scam, why it it not busted yet like other scams that only see 1-2 years? Why has it been there for I guess 12-13 years?
Please explain why they are not genuine?
I have provided what information I have. If something is wrong I admit so, If there is enough proof that this is fraudulent I will accept it. I am not a defender of QNet.. all I have stated is what information I was provided with.
and I have been doing good in this biz, my team is happy, we never nag people, we never beg people to join and all that. so if we me and my team are happy, so be it.
your link provided below is broken. please provide the full link.
I have shared my email ID. and my face book ID ( though it is closed for strangers) send me a friend list and you will know more about me.
and regarding any biz, there will always be admirers and bashers, there will optimistic and pessimistic people. that is how the world is. It does not matter to me and Hope it should not matter to you too. at the end your life and mine are different and our success is charted by our own destiny and course of action. God bless you.
If you want to know more, not an issue, but I dont have to impersonate any one, for I dont give a damn to anyone.
and as you see, I have given a direct and open challenge to the writer of this article. Sucheta Dalal. so I dont have to be somebody else when I can be myself always
I call upon Arindam to provide his details.
Let us clear this doubt as well. no issues
Mohan if you see 2 facebook characters with lots of friends and all then I hope you believe I am not Arindam. right? we will do that exercise too for your sake.
I am not the pall bearer of QNet. I am just an IR and I can share what I have known and I put it across to you that some facts are misleading and outright wrong.
1. Where did you get the figure of Rs. 27.7 Lakh / week. even I am bewildered as I have never ever heard of this amount earlier in this company.so what is the source of this figure?
2. Please show me where the company is ensnaring people to INVEST on FAKE promise of enormous wealth. Please provide material facts. Is it in the company website, Please atleast show me the word INVEST somewhere.. give me the link. not of some personal blog of disgruntled person, but a proper company website stating this.
3. You say the company seems to operating under several different names that are designed to hide a trail of its operation.
well the company global website is http://www.qnet.net and India website is http://www.qnetindia.in.
QI group is the holding company and QNet is the name of the company.
But I do agree there was a challenge in Chennai in 2008 when the company in the name of Goldquest faced the issue.
check this link where the supreme court dismissed the appeal: http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes...
why dont you people mention this? you jump at the slightest provocation but why dont you in the same spirit highlight the above verdict?
4. You say QNet, the controversial...... I say you are biased right from the word GO.....tell me where is the controversy? and if you show me some blogs or articles on web I will give you a hundred articles on web which alleges some of the most respected companies including Infosys are involved in fraudulent practices? just goodle Infosys scam you will get detaqils.. so Is Infy a fraud company? If Infy is not fraud then how come QNet is controversial?? please explain.
5. you say WORRIED INVESTORS. I am sorry to say that you have not even understood what this biz is about? no body invests in this company. we buy products like a vacation or telecom or a swiss watch and refer others the same. we dont INVEST. we buy and refer. so where are these worried investors? how are they investors in the first instance. you got it totally wrong in understanding the fundamentals.
6. you say finding more independent representatives (IRs) becomes harder and harder, until those that join late are unable to recover even their initial outlay and the model collapses....
what a joke, this shows your absolute ignorance of this biz model. what if I say and prove that a person who came in this biz 1 month back can make more money than a person who is in this biz for over say 5 years? this is not about recovering the INVESTMENT... there is no RECOVERY per-se. this is biz where you get paid commission for referring. so where did you get these words like Investment and recovery. this is not a bank. and if you want me to prove that you are wrong we can meet at a public forum preferably at a TV show and I will show you the model. I am open to this. but dont spread half baked wrong information.
7. you are mentioning about 3 product sale on left and 3 product sale on right. you could have simply mentioned it as a binary model. QNet pays a commission on the product sold.
8. The compensation plan operates by the recruitment of customers by the existing IR. what if I say that by referring / selling the product you get the referral commission. If you dont want to recruit customer dont do, sell the product and take referral comission. who says it is not possible. I say I can just sell a vacation package to a friend and take a commission for that in this biz. this is like any normal trading. along with this if your customer refers the product to his friends you get a binary commission. so what is the problem here?
9. Did you verify Mr. Mansour's claim that at 13th level the world population is covered. he got the whole calculation wrong. I say here that at 13th level you will have 4096 partners and not the world population. this is binary plan not some hexa plan. and over that the company has a compensation capping so that the liquidity is always maintained. without checking the facts how can you borrow from Mr. Mansours findings which is absolutely rubbish. You want more clarity about this level I am there to clarify. please let me know. Are you aware how much damage you are doing by publishing some wrong information and sending wrong signals to the people, this misinformation could damage some one's belief in a biz model.
10. you wanted the name of the diamonds and platinums. this was a very recent initiative from the company. but no probs here are the names
http://blog.qnet.net/2012/09/platinum-an...
here you have the list of platinums and diamonds of QNet. to name a few there is Dev wadhwani, Aarati Dighe,Sanjiv Mehrotra, Sachin Gupta, Manish Bhansali. I can also give you their contact details and email details and you can personally go and meet them and check out if what I said is true or false.
You have to ask the right person for right answer and not publish some thing wrong just because you did not find the required info
and let me be more specific take for example Dev Wadhwani (he is on facebook check out) earns more than Mukesh Ambani's 23.82 crores per year in this biz. want to really check it out? no probs you are in mumbai. we can arrange that too. you can see it with your own eyes.
Regarding chennai challenge in 2008 ( the one challenge for this company in India which every person keeps harping endlessly) is behind us. yes there were issues, but not with the company, yes there were some unscrupulous elements involved at that period of time, but as I said SC cleared all the issues long time back.
Now.we are ready and open for you challenging any of our above comments. we will provide you with facts and figures. we will explain the biz model if you wish to know that ( it is so different from what you actually perceive here).
But the bottom line is - Sucheta Dalal, please do not mislead people with ill conceived half knowledge report with misleading facts. If possible please come clean on this.
By the way I am an engineer, an entrepreneur, successful in my own line of business and been with QNet for a short period now, please note that this is not personal but just a presentation of facts to which I have been privy to.
Thanks
whom would you seek guidance from. the person who has done this biz and succeeded or some one who is bitter and failed and has only negative about this industry as a whole?
Ask your friend to meet some successful persons in this biz, grill them with every possible questions that you can think of, infact yesterday a friend asked me 2 questions. If QNet is a billion dollar company why is it not listed like google or facebook and 2nd question is why is QNet not in the Hong Kong Direct sellers association list as Qnet head office is in HK?
I am in this biz for some time, but I still do seek questions which are thrown at me. then if you want to look at only negative things just go and google -Infosys scam- you will get a big list where Infosys is involved in Visa fraud and all. does that mean Infy is a bad company. every coin has 2 face, the admirer and the basher. I am an admirer of QNet, I am an educated person an entrepreneur running my own biz successfully but now focussed about this new found passion.
Go by your heart. if you really have a compelling reason to make it big in life take up the challenge, be committed, be honest and pay the price, stick on to the dream and work very very hard coz this is not a get rich scheme. Go with an intention of helping people realise their dreams and not with making money at any cost. it is about mindset. Think about it and take the path that you heart says. Good luck
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You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all the time
I was expecting that I will have some decent people giving some decent replies and they will have respect for each other. The comments instead here are reflecting bad taste and smell foul of personal differences rather than objective dialogues.
I regret my participation here. If someone is still willing to give some objective and logical answers to someone who is deciding a major shift in life is welcome.
With all due respect, I know I can't do much about people who just vent out their personal emotions here. Thank you.
Thanks for your comments. We raised simple questions to QNet officials (and not senior IRs at CCD) and they couldn't answer a single one. Read http://www.moneylife.in/article/qnet-the...
@Arindam... It was Moneylife who saved thousands of 'innocent' people 'like you' from the clutches of MLMs like Speak Asia, Stockguru, NMart and hundreds of others and not Forbes. Anyway, its your money and you are free to 'invest' where it suits you.
My fried Vinayak Khanwalkar who showed the business to me had a valid point. Scams like Speak Asia, SG, NMart and all get busted in a year or maximum 2. Qnet he says has been operational for like 13-14 years.
Why is it not busted yet? Do you have any logical explanation to that? Personally, I buy this point as I myself have never seen any MLM scam running fraudulently for so long.
It is far better when the client becomes a friend than the other way around . . . do we make friends so that we can have clients?
I showed this article to my friend also and to my utter surprise, he Googled and brought up at least 20 such more articles saying Qnet is a scam. I was expecting that he will try to cover up all this but he exposed me more to it.
He then said that there are divided voices about everything including Qnet. He said I am leaving it to your judgement to decide which one you want to believe..
He showed me about 20 articles saying Qnet is scam and only about 2-3 talking about its credibility. One of them was Forbes. I am enclosing the link here.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/donaldfrazie...
This definitely has got me thinking. All the 20 something articles he showed to me were not at all from any authentic sources. They were on user created blogs. They stand no where in comparison with Forbes. In fact, Moneylife is also nothing as compared to Forbes. It is like which one should I trust.. Forbes or all other non genuine blogs..
By the way, I did more research and I found equal number of blogs which said positive about Qnet. This made me even more confused, who to trust and who not to trust. As a sensible person definitely I will give more wheitage to Forbes and other very genuine articles I read in by some very credible International media. Moneylife stands nowhere infront of them. But honestly, I am still very confused whether to join or not.
I must admit though that I have been to many MLM presentations and never joined any of them. But I really liked the way I was approached, I was given the freedom to choose, nothing was pushed down my throat. My friend made me meet his other partners and I found them all proper, groomed and very professional.
What is adding to my confusion is the fact that I know my friend since childhood. He has been the most honest person I have known. I still believe that he wouldn't get me into anything which is wrong. I really don't know if I should join or not!!
The friend which you mentioned here may not be a person in real life but may be a virtual person. these are all typical MLM propaganda unleashed by all MLM companies including Stock Guru, Speak Asia etc. etc., to take people for a solid ride.
what is not understood by MLM people like you is the fact that MONEYLIFE readers are financially very "literate" and very unlikely they get carried away by such silly propaganda.
I have done due diligence with this company over a extended period many months and I believe this could work. so far it has been good, I have made good friends, I have grown personally too and God has been kind to me.
It was nice having this small chat and God bless you in all you do. take care
Cost of entry is extremely high
this is a debatable matter like what is extremely high?
One can buy a product for lesser than 20K, one time buying to become a customer with the company and then he can refer the products to others. there are lesser value repeat sales products such as nutrition,personal care, home care etc for as less as Rs. 2000.
again the word extremely high is ambiguos and is a relative term. for some 1 lakh could be extremely high and for some 10K could be extremely high. but I feel less than 20K is not extremely high entry
Thank you very much for being nice to me :-)
However, I need to focus on my other important works now, so I will not be able to continue discussion.
BTW, code of ethics are really impressive though I am not sure how many of IRs aware of these code of ethics :-)
If you are convinced about QNet business model than I wish you all the best buddy :-)
May God bless you too !!!
But my since advice will be not to do this business full time since you never know, when it will be banned in India and you might end up in financial trouble.
Pyramid schemes involve products which are cheap to produce and have no established market value. New miracle products, exotic cures, mattresses are some of these. At unreasonable cost of entry into the company of scheme, it is a major deferent
ok Our products are vacation packages- based from singapore, telecom product based from UK, wellness product based from Germany, Luxury items such as swiss watches and jewellery and e-learning based from Switzerland to name a few. A telecom product or vacation or a jewellery is not miracle product.. for example subsidiary Bernard H Meyer -http://www.bhmayer.net/
is 150 year old company into luxury watches and jewellery or our telecom company QI Comm - https://http://www.in-voice.com/
is a leading player in UK.
the products are neither miracle, exotic but some unique products which people buy. then our watches can be purchased outside too, our resorts can be used by outside people too. so they are neither cheap to produce and they have established market value
In QNet nobody pays money to few at top. you buy a product and refer it to some body else. strange as it might seem, in QNet biz model a person who is 1 month old in this biz can earn more than a person who is 10 yrs in this biz. It needs sometime to explain it. we can take it private and I shall explain you. so generally a ponzi / pyramid scheme is where the early entrants make all the money and the late entrants dont make money or loose money. I say the late entrant makes money and the possibility of early entrants not making money exists in this model.. looks strange is it? I can explain it with clarity, not an issue there. but it is lengthy as I said, so I can mail you that if you feel so
first the code of ethics.
ILLEGITIMATE FINANCIAL PYRAMIDS does not have code of ethics.
Please read the code of ethics of QNet here
http://www.qnet.net/en/footer/code_of_et...
MLM per-se is not bad if the biz model and fundamentals are strong. Did you know that Hindustan Lever is having a direct selling / network marketing arm of their company? check it out here http://www.huln.co.in/about_us.aspx
So how do a fraudulent company operate? Founders usually rope in initial investors to start the company. They then announce big compensation plans to rope in more and more investors. With the new investment, initial investors are compensated to build credibility. But the company finally reaches a point where its payout promises are greater than the money coming in. Usually the business goes bankrupt, and investors lose their money.
but if the liquidity model of an MLM company is strong it does not fail. why I am saying this is I have seen the liquidity model of QNet as there is a cut off limit for payoffs and the model is such that company will never go bust..
time to go. anyways everything is as per person's faith and belief and not to forget the hard efforts, commitment and good intents.. and there will always be admirers and bashers in every biz no matter what. and as in every biz some win some fail, that is the universal law.. God bless you Avinash.
Please refer the below link of direct selling association in India,
http://www.idsa.co.in/Faqs.html
and go through the answer of following query,
How can you differentiate between legitimate & illegitimate direct selling Company?
As you know, mind works when it is open so be open minded and answer this query keeping in mind the nature of QNet.
You will realize that QNet clearly falls in to illegitimate direct selling company category.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qnet
I hope our government also becomes active in protecting their citizens otherwise only God knows, how many StockGuru, SpeakAsia, QNet will loot hard earned money from ordinary innocent citizens.
Now you call up any hotels in India (which are part of their list) and ask them what is their room charges. They will turn out to be much cheaper than what is offered by QNet.
Hotels allocates only certain amount of rooms for such users of vacation package. So if you want to use these vacations, then you need to plan months in advance. Only few hotels are part of their vacation package so you will be restricted to going to these cities/hotels.
If you don't take these vacation package, you will have much more flexibility in terms of cities and time frame, for enjoying your vacation. On top of that, you will save good amount of money in staying in the same hotels (which are part of QNet vacation package).
When you buy vacation package of 3/4/5 lacs than per week charges will be less. But then you are having so many restrictions in taking the vacations and the choices of the cities.
No sensible person will buy their vacation package if they will know all the details of their vacation package and their usage charges.
That is the reason, I am saying that most of the users/customers don't need their product. They have to buy it to become part of their ponzi/pyramid scheme.
Avinash I say the same to you, there are bitter people who have not understood the biz or mis informed and also could have paid the paper to write bad about a company. as I said every coin has 2 faces. If there are admirers there are also competitors or bitter people. so a few bad articles in the net does not prove that the company is bad and also a few good article in the net does not prove the company is good too.. It is individual faith and trust, the belief in the biz and the hard work one puts in it. I have a happy team and we are like one family.
next please tell me how many countries have banned QNet. I think Iran is one. did you know Bhagavad Gita was banned in Turkey and was about to be banned in Russia some time earlier? does that mean Bhagavad gita is bad bcoz some countries thought so?.. today this Biz is in UK, Canada, Middle east and scores of countries. are all these countries stupid?? many went to the extent of saying QNet is banned in India too.
every company has challenges. No body no company is perfect. I look at the good things and carry on. This is not a debate per se but just my thoughts.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/donaldfrazie...
I am yet to completely go through the link you provided, but I surely would say there have been many challenges like the chennai challenge in 2008. regarding the chennai challenge, please give me the link of any magazine where some body was convicted and put to jail or whatever. please show me the conviction article not the allegation article. there is a difference in allegation and conviction.
Regarding the product, I use the Bio-Disc for my wellness. I was a chronic asthma patient and since last 6 months after using the bio energised water my dependency on my salbutamol inhaler ( for asthma) has reduced drastically. regarding vacation, the company offers an international vacation package at a 3-5 star resort at the rate of say Rs. 1500/- per person per night.my friends have used it and found value for money.
Look at it this way. you refer a product you get paid a commission for it. so why all the fuss?
Bitter truth of the life is, once you have money, then you can become sponsor of the events & pay to the publication house to write in favor of you/your company. Political parties do this all the time in our country at the large scale and companies/individuals like QNet does it their own level.
Do you think, governments of many countries which has already banned QNet/GoldQuest/QuestNet (what ever you want to call), are idiots? They are banning QNet as they realized that the nature of this company is to earn money by cheating people by selling products at exorbitantly high prices which are not all worth this kind of money. On top of that, this company claims in their training that they are selling products through referral to cut down MAD (marketing, advertizement, distribution cost). By this logic, the product should be of less price than the competitors not, much higher than the competitors.
Please refer the following link to understand why QNet is Pyramid scheme,
http://www.iricvalley.com/2010/10/is-qne...
They are selling product (which are exorbitantly priced and are of no use for the customer, you can enjoy vacation in much better way with greater convenience & at less price with out there vacation package, just an example) to conceal their true identity of a ponzi nature of their business.
1) Registration: Vihaan is registered under VAT No: 29500670395 & Service Tax No: AADCV8173FSD001 in India
2) Legal Advisor in India: There are multiple now.
3) Certificate of Registration: Same as Point No. 1
4) Certificate of In-Corporation: Registered under Companies Act, 1956 & allotted No. U52399KA2011PTC060730
Please verify the details and revert.
Thank u for the information provided. However, me being an ordinary man it would help if you could help us with some more information.
(1)Who is the Head of Operation for Q-net in India?
(2) Where is your Head Office located (address) in India?
(3) Among your multiple legal Advisers, could you please specify a couple of prominent ones
next Avinash you said it is a ponzi scheme. please explain what is ponzi scheme in your opinion and why QNet qualifies as a ponzi scheme.
Who is the operation head of Q-net in India?
Where is your Head Office in India?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/donaldfrazie...
There don't seem to be any comments from people who have been themselves cheated.
This web site supplies a generic checklist for identifying cults:
http://www.csj.org/infoserv_cult101/chec...
Let's go through the list and comment:
The group is focused on a living leader to whom members seem to display excessively zealous, unquestioning commitment. In MLM, sometimes it's a leader, sometimes it's the company itself. More often it's a charismatic individual, whether that's the company founder or an upline.
The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members. In MLM, the answer is YES! YES! YES!
The group is preoccupied with making money. In MLM, the answer is YES! YES! YES!
Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished. In MLM, the answer is YES! YES! YES!
Mind-numbing techniques (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, debilitating work routines) are used to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s). Ever been to an MLM "motivational seminar"? It's not so much "mind numbing" as it is "mind distracting". Good feelings are whipped up and lifelong dreams stimulated and then linked to the "business opportunity", as if the latter could materialise the former. Logical flows of cause and effect based on rigorous research are replaced with highly emotional but intellectually flawed mental linkages to keep the MLM recruit hooked.
The leadership dictates sometimes in great detail how members should think, act, and feel (for example: members must get permission from leaders to date, change jobs, get married; leaders may prescribe what types of clothes to wear, where to live, how to discipline children, and so forth). For MLMers, the dictates are that "thou shalt market thy product every waking moment when one is not listening to one of thy company tapes or contacting thy friends and family to recruit them into the cause. Should thy fail to do this, thou art the gravest of sinners."
The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s), and members (for example: the leader is considered the Messiah or an avatar; the group and/or the leader has a special mission to save humanity). MLMers "save humanity" with their product or their business opportunity. The "bad guys" are corporate America and their foisting of JOBs (Just Over Broke) onto the American "sheep". Never mind that it's much easier to manage life on a steady JOB income than on a nonexistent or even negative MLM income.
The group has a polarized us- versus-them mentality, which causes conflict with the wider society. See above comments on MLMs vs JOBs in corporate America.
The group's leader is not accountable to any authorities (as are, for example, military commanders and ministers, priests, monks, and rabbis of mainstream denominations). MLMers dislike well-educated critical thinkers who can see through their smoke and mirrors, and FTC regulators who expect MLM companies to substantiate their outrageous claims.
The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify means that members would have considered unethical before joining the group (for example: collecting money for bogus charities). Unethical MLM practices include (1) outrageous income claims not achievable by "just anyone" despite their arguments to the contrary, (2) telling people to "fake it till you make it" (heard this one from a Nu Skin Blue Diamond distributor tape), (3) encouraging retail customers to use excessive amounts of product to boost resales (heard this one from another Nu Skin distributor tape).
The leadership induces guilt feelings in members in order to control them. Example: "What? You didn't make any phone calls today for your business? How are you ever going to get that new Mercedes (or big house, or quitting your job, or whatever other 'hot button' you might have)."
Members' subservience to the group causes them to cut ties with family and friends, and to give up personal goals and activities that were of interest before joining the group. Listen to some Amway tapes and learn how people have lost valuable relationships with families and friends because Amway became their all-consuming passion. Very sad. It's as if the MLM company "overwrites" the recruit's personality with its own scripting regardless of the damage such scripting may cause.
Members are expected to devote inordinate amounts of time to the group. Spend every waking moment "working the business" regardless of whether it ever makes you any money.
Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialize only with other group members. "You must surround yourself with positive people! Negative people say, 'Be realistic'! Positive people ask, 'What is possible?' Most people die from the neck up by the time they're adults! Stay away from them! They're dream stealers!"
Based on this analysis, I think the notion that MLMs have cultish tendencies has merit. I'll be the first to admit that excellence in any endeavor requires a passionate dedication. But that dedication is usually internal rather than external. When external "authorities" begin overwriting people's identities with their own scripting, to the detriment of the people getting scripted, that's when the problems begin. I think that happens most of the time with MLMs given the dismal statistics of MLM failures. When rigorous studies reveal gambling to be less risky than MLM, it is time to bail out of MLM.
It is really shameful that our government is sleeping our such a big fraud and waking up only when lacs and lacs of innocent citizens are loosing their life time savings. qnet is very good at brain washing innocent citizens. Their promoters should be hanged to death for cheating innocent people who fell in their trap and think that qnet is solution to their financial problems. Even in their own seminars/training, then tell that only "4%" people are able to make money and "96%" are loosing their initial money given to company. Funny part is, if any one tell that they are not able to make money, then they will blame the same guy that since you are not able to make new members so you are not able to earn. So it is your fault that you are not able to make money from this business. Now you can imagine, how many people are being cheated by this company.
In summary, qnet is a fraud and should be banned as soon as possible before lacs of innocent citizens gets cheated by this company and end up loosing their hard earned money as well as their own close relatives and friends.