While Kazi Aviation is claiming non-payment as the reason, Concurrent is saying that the company's name was not included in various licenses by Kazi Aviation as per an agreement
Concurrent (India) Infrastructure Ltd's game of moving what seems to be false information with the stock exchanges and investors continues unabated. The latest in the series is a cancellation of its deal with Kazi Aviation & Travel Services due to non-funding as per a previous agreement.
Earlier in March, Concurrent announced that it had bought a majority stake in Kazi Aviation for an undisclosed sum. However, Kazi Aviation, an aviation service provider, has cancelled the memorandum of understanding (MoU) signed between the two companies as Concurrent has not infused any funds into the aviation business as per the terms and conditions of the agreement.
Confirming the cancellation of the deal, Dr Hamid Abdulaziz Kazi, chairman, Kazi Aviation, said, "We were supposed to get Rs1 crore upfront for purchase of various ground handling equipment and as royalty. We issued a good number of shares on preferential basis to Concurrent. However, they did not pay us any money. Therefore we decided to terminate our MoU."
Fayyaz Shaikh, executive director, Kazi Aviation said, "Concurrent has misused our company and business contacts. It was our company that was instrumental in awarding three projects, the Sikkim power project (read more: http://www.moneylife.in/article/8/6290.html), the Sri Lanka land deal and the MoU with Prince of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia for a joint venture in ground handling services in Saudi Arabia."
According to Mr Shaikh, Concurrent could not even pay the licensing fees in Saudi Arabia. "The company has a habit of just making announcements, but there is nothing on the ground level. Even for the Sikkim power project, which was in the pipeline, the company went ahead and declared it. I think Concurrent is only interested in raising money from the market through announcements," he said.
However, K Sudhir Babu, chairman and managing director (CMD) of Concurrent has a contradictory view. He said, "As per our deal with Kazi Aviation, the company was supposed to include Concurrent's name in its licenses, especially for the maintenance, repair and overhaul (MRO) license at Chennai. However, it did not. It was repeated with all licenses related with the Director General of Civil Aviation (DGCA)."
"Concurrent has asked Kazi Aviation to return the token amount of Rs5 lakh as the deal fell through," he said.
The Concurrent CMD said that the company is in final discussions with other MRO services providers from Hyderabad, he said that he hopes that this (new) deal would be more beneficial rather than the Kazi Aviation deal.
Similarly, Kazi Aviation has also found another partner, US-based Arjay Global Ltd, which has agreed to invest Rs10 crore for various aviation activities and aviation fuel supplies, Dr Kazi said in an email.
Interestingly, there is an error while accessing the home page of the Kazi Aviation site. However, the other pages are loading properly.
(Read more http://www.moneylife.in/article/8/6594.html, http://www.moneylife.in/article/8/6290.html, http://www.moneylife.in/article/8/6438.html, http://www.moneylife.in/article/8/6391.html).
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Some one ADFG @4.15 PM on September 28, 2010 wrote:-
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Another dubious company from linked promoters.
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Answer to ADFG:-
Mr.ADFG here you go:-
First of all you writing this on moneylife. in, in Concurrent related story under comments make us feel you are the worst individual of first-order. Further u trying to link the Concurrent Promoters with FTL Promoters by calling them as linked promoters exhibits your sickness of the worst order. Idiotic understanding. Concurrent and FTL are in no way connected to each other. Try to know the difference between investor and promoter before attempting to write dubious stuff.
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ADFG Illusion
ADFG @4.15 PM on September 28, 2010 wrote:-
FRAUD CO- STAY AWAY, BE AWARE OF FACTS!
Issue in contention: Absolute generic writing on web without supported by measurable facts. Rather than writing facts on website company boasts pretty generic lines more of a sales promotion material without any facts. For example rather than writing name of ERP software they keep boasting what an ERP does. Or for same matter the KPO industry scenario, they should write what they do for KPO. More to follow on specific issues.
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Mr.ADFG here you go:-
Website of the company if it gives the potential market for their products, in what way you can question???? How your wrong questions make the company dubious???
It’s the prerogative of the company to put what they feel right on their website, it’s the company’s website. If you are a shareholder, you can suggest to improvise it. After all, It’s not your website. You say absolute generic information is written on the website. First of all generic information relating to their line of business if they keep by writing about their presence, what’s the wrong in it????
Who are you to tell them that they should write the paragraphs and content in the way which you feel right?? What they are doing is clearly evident. Are you blind? Or acting blind folded? To create confusion in the minds of investors.
Write something sense, don’t write non-sense.
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ADFG Illusion
ADFG @4.15 PM on September 28, 2010 wrote:-
Decoding of First Object Technologies-intelligently crafted to “DUPE” investors:Contd I.
Issue in contention: Technological partner” Object Xperts Inc”, only a paper company?
The company claims some data centre in Canada and US. The technology partner is one Object Xperts Inc; no such company exists at least on sec website. Being an incorporated company it should have registration details with Edgar.
Interesting to note the “Object Xperts” website carry a contact name shiva@objectxperts0com which is similar to name of a director in first object technologies. Secondly the web claims “integrated management solutions for balanced business controls”, business controls is another term used for internal controls. Rather drilling down the strengths filmsy words were tried to put in.
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Answer to ADFG
Mr.ADFG here you go:-
U say Object Xperts INC is only a paper company. What is your basis? Do you have any valid basis to say??
Interestingly, this time you stopped writing from an ID. You are writing through Guest Postings? Some ADFG on moneylife.in (BTW: Alaska Department of Fish and Game) is this what your ID?
Object Xperts Inc has an age old website with all the information relating to the company. Go thru once again ww w.objectxperts. com. The home page of the company clearly states in the first paragraph that Object Xperts has been in existence since 1988.
Click on the URL: htt p://ww w.objectxperts. com/Agreement.doc
Object Xperts Inc. a corporation organized under the laws of the State of New Jersey and having its principal place of business located at 6 Molly Court , Monmouth Junction NJ 08852
Under the above URL given, if you want to be a partner, the model / sample agreement is there, down load the document file. Read clearly. It states that it’s a corporation organized under the laws of state of New Jersey. How come you can say that a company incorporated doesn’t exist??.
Further we are fed up with your time and again statements of SEC fillings and EDGAR search not revealing any information about Objectxperts, read here and gain some knowledge. Stop useless postings at least after enriching yourself with the knowledge given to you with our valuable efforts.
Go thru the following URL about SEC:-
htt p://w ww.sec. gov/about/whatwedo. shtml,
in the middle of 6th paragraph under introduction you can clearly find that:-
the SEC requires public companies to disclose meaningful financial and other information to the public. This provides a common pool of knowledge for all investors to use to judge for themselves whether to buy, sell, or hold a particular security.
Further read carefully the SEC site:-
To help support investor education, the SEC offers the public a wealth of educational information on this Internet website, which also includes the EDGAR database of disclosure documents that public companies are required to file with the Commission.
What the above clearly gives the information?? If you don’t have brains let me put it in a language which you may at least understand.
SEC Requires Public Companies to disclose meaningful financial and other information.
EDGAR database is of disclosure of documents that public companies are required to file with Commission.
What does the above mean????
The above clearly talks the SEC / EDGAR database covers only Public Companies that means listed companies on bourses or widely held companies. NOT THE PRIVATELY HELD COMPANIES.
SEC is like SEBI, can you go to SEBI site and find out the information of a Pvt.Ltd company????? Even when you don’t know basics, what right you have to post these comments. If you don’t know, the right way is to talk to the Company Officials and get clarifications up to your satisfaction. Not by resorting to wrong postings like this.
What is Object Xperts Inc, it’s a privately held / closely held company. How can you get the information of Object Xperts Inc on SEC Site, you brainless guy.
Just because you don’t know can you call a company as Paper Company with your limited knowledge.
Further you say that Object Xperts Inc carries the name of Shiva who also happens to be Director. Due to the alliance that these two companies have he has become a Director on Firstobject Board. Do you know who exactly is he? He was one of the erstwhile founders of now known as 3i Infotech which got sold to ICICI.
Mr.ADFG, you should have sense at least before writing or commenting about well-known and established guys like Shiva.
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ADFG Illusion
ADFG @4.15 PM on September 28, 2010 wrote:-
Decoding of First Object Technologies-intelligently crafted to“DUPE” investors:Contd III.
Issue in contention: “Maker” of ERP software with 24crore consolidated revenue!!!
This sounds like joke of century, a company which reported 24 cr revenue consolidated including all verticals designs and implement ERP!!
Company claims “Enterprise First” the flagship ERP product supports OTC, CRM etc. Does company know how much money required implementing an ERP in entity including design, develop, testing and release?? The fees they would have collected would be few lacs rupees which is even not enough to design front end portal. Majorly fishy claim!! Who has implemented the enterprise first??
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Answer to ADFG
Mr.ADFG, You sound like a biggest joker not only on the earth but in the entire universe. You are an ASS.
First of all your funniest claim that you know more than company with your narrow minded question of, “Does company know how much money required implementing an ERP in entity including design, develop, testing and release??”
You are not a company guy. Right. Then how do you know more than Company? Are you not a Joker. U writing company’s claims sound like joke of Century, it’s your illusion, presumption. Company has proprietary ERP Suit for SME’s. The product supports OTC, CRM’s also. If the company makes money through their proprietary product, What’s your problem?? Fees comes from maintenance, which is also huge. Besides fresh sales of product gives revenues. Don’t you understand this with commonsense???. Who has implemented ERP?, the question is like Who gave birth to you?? Like how you born to a mother and father, there is parental for the enterprise first also !!!
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ADFG Illusion
ADFG @4.15 PM on September 28, 2010 wrote:-
Decoding of First Object Technologies- intelligently crafted to “DUPE” investors: Contd IV.
Issue in contention: Alliance partners
Few big names have been raised such as Commtel and Millennium care. I doubt whether these companies are even aware of existence of first object technologies? What Commtel have to do with first object? Commtel is a networking company involved in defense and oil sectors. Difficult to understand!!
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Answer to ADFG
Mr.ADFG, Here you go!!!!
Few Big Names like Commtel and Millennium Care are stated. Commtel is networking solutions company. They also run a BPO. Again u are wrong in ur perception about Commtel and its business. It’s a telecom network systems integrator, where software and hardware activities are involved. They integrate the systems over the pipelines laid by Oil & Gas companies like GAIL, ONGC and Reliance. Their presence in defense again is for Telecom Software and Network Hardware. Tell me now, Why it cannot be an Alliance Partner with Firstobject.
Millennium Care Inc., is a global Help Desk Out-tasking organization, headquartered in Toronto Ontario and serves over 200,000 I.T. activities per month originating in 80 countries worldwide with over 25,000 logins per month from end users and I.T. workers around the world. These activities include a substantial process tasks, including Incident, Problem and Change.
Under their Global Delivery Model they also have BPO operations which caters to the requirements of 80 countries world wide.
If fraction / part of that work is done by Firstobject, what is your problem??
BTW:
Finally when I recode, what you tried to decode, I can very well say that you are intelligently crafting to disguise investors with your illusions and stupid questions. ADFG or Guest whoever you may be you are trying to dupe investors with your craftsmanship of wrong corroborations.
Don’t Play Around with your lack of knowledge. Ultimately what is your aim? You want to spread lies or your limited understanding. By doing so u are actually duping the investors.
Another dubious company from linked promoters.
FRAUD CO- STAY AWAY, BE AWARE OF FACTS!
Issue in contention: Absolute generic writing on web without supported by measurable facts.Rather than writing facts on website company boasts pretty generic lines more of a sales promotion material without any facts. For example rather than writing name of ERP software they keep boasting what an ERP does. Or for same matter the KPO industry scenario, they should write what they do for KPO.More to follow on specific issues.
Decoding of First Object Technologies- intelligently crafted to “DUPE” investors: Contd I.
Issue in contention: Technological partner” Object Xperts Inc”, only a paper company?
The company claims some data centre in Canada and US. The technology partner is one Object Xperts Inc, no such company exists at least on sec website. Being an incorporated company it should have registration details with edgar.
Interesting to note the “Object Xperts” website carry a contact name shiva@objectxperts0com which is similar to name of a director in first object technologies. Secondly the web claims “integrated management solutions for balanced business controls”, business controls is another term used for internal controls. Rather drilling down the strengths filmsy words were tried to put in.
Decoding of First Object Technologies- intelligently crafted to “DUPE” investors: Contd III.
Issue in contention: “Maker” of ERP software with 24crore consolidated revenue!!!
This sounds like joke of century, a company which reported 24 cr revenue consolidated including all verticals designs and implement ERP!!
Company claims “Enterprise First” the flagship ERP product supports OTC, CRM etc. Does company know how much money required implementing an ERP in entity including design, develop, testing and release?? The fees they would have collected would be few lacs rupees which is even not enough to design front end portal. Majorly fishy claim!! Who has implemented the enterprise first??
Decoding of First Object Technologies- intelligently crafted to “DUPE” investors: Contd IV.
Issue in contention: Alliance partners
Few big names have been raised such as Commtel and Millenium care. I doubt whether these companies are even aware of existence of first object technologies? What Commtel have to do with first object? Commtel is a networking company involved in defense and oil sectors. Difficult to understand!!
Kazi's home page has an error in your interesting finding. But cache gives you the vindictive postings which they have posted on home page.
What do you say about this?
KAZI AVIATION & TRAVEL SERVICES HAS TERMINATED MOU SIGNED AT HYDERABAD WITH CONCURRENT INDIA INFRASTRUSCTURE LTD. AS MR. K SUDHIR BABU COULD NOT FUND M/S KAZI AVIATION AS AGREED.
NO FUNDS FOR 6 MONTHS TO PAY TO KAZI AVIATION BY K SUDHIR BABU.
DO NOT INVEST IN CONCURRENT INDIA AS IT HAS NO MONEY BELIVES IN ANNOUNCEMENT SCANDLE AT BSE ONLY
Please ignore this Yusuf and keep up your good work. This character (no one knows real name) roams around blog and spam with different ids. Probably he/she is paid for that concurrent. Many people are fed up with this beherupia.
Excellent article in exposing paper companies
Secondly, in this story we have never quoted Dr Kazi, the chairman as saying that his company was instrumental in getting the Sikkim deal. It was not Dr Kazi but Mr Faiyaz Shaikh who had given us the information, which you may have failed to read or understand.
And lastly, there were many things narrated to us by both Kazi Aviation officials as well as by Concurrent CMD, but due to journalistic ethics we decided to stick to the relevant issue only. Also in this story we have quoted both the parties, which shows that we are not biased against anyone and had merely put forward a true picture of things that has happened.
Whether u quoted Kazi or Faiyaz both represent Kazi Aviation only. When they say publicly that they were instrumental in getting Sikkim Contract, Are they equally responsible for creating that mess on SPDC which you covered it as your story. I am not frustrated, when I am reasoning out with you MDT, you call me frustrated. While writing an article where KAZI agrees that there was an agreement for kazi aviation which he is terminating, you start your article with malafide interpretation of Concurrent (India) Infrastructure Ltd's game of moving what seems to be false information with the stock exchanges and investors continues unabated.
Are you not biased. When agreement is there as agreed by both parties, why did you come to that flimsy conclusion in the first paragraph itself in a frustrated manner. Can any sensible person call this a journalistic ethic or yellow journalism.
I am a shareholder, lost money heavily due to these insensitive articles. I lost money but I am not frustrated.
Kindly request you to present balanced articles.
I am mulla, even kazi knows, yousuf mulla you mention he will tell about me to you. I told him to correct himself as he was trying in a vindictive manner to put down concurrent as he is privy to concurrent insider information. When he or faiyaaz claims that they are instrumental in getting some order book, they are also equally culprits. Why do you point out sudhir only. I like my religion but I give importance to Insaaniyat. Insaaniyat hai sab se pehala Dharam Hain Insaan Kaa. Magar Kazi Apna Badla lene me busy hain. U are supporting him through your articles, That is where I am perturbed.
Again, read the story carefully. What we had mentioned in the first para is truth and nothing else. Also since, Concurrent being a listed entity is misusing public money (you are one of these investors, who seems to have lost heavily) with flow of false information. Be a wise investor. Also since Kazi Aviation is not a listed entity (thus not using public money) we are not bothered how they raise/invest money or perform as a company.
As you know both the parties very well we also know our ethics of journalism and has kept it intact throughout.
Everytime you write about Concurrent you say they are in game of moving what seems to be false information???? How? How??Concurrent (India) Infrastructure Ltd's game of moving what seems to be false information with the stock exchanges and investors continues unabated. The latest in the series is a cancellation of its deal with Kazi Aviation & Travel Services due to non-funding as per a previous agreement.
Your intepretative statement is biased for the following:-
1) Kazi Aviation Deal, Kazi also admits that it has entered into an agreement. The same is announced. What's misleading there??
2) Kazi says he has given preferential in his company to Concurrent?? By issuing preferential he has consummated the deal???
3) If payment of Rs.1 crores is precondition, then why the hell he has given preferentail without collecting Rs.1crores??? That means Rs.1 crores payment is not a pre condition.
4) He cancelled his deal on his website on a vitual platform, but not in letter and spirit. Did he do it with the company with mutual singatures appended to cancellation agreement??? Did you check that up with Kazi???
5) Dont you think that with his cofession now that he was instrumental in Sikkim Contract Award, he was part to the whole mess when SPDC confusion arisen in Virtual Media???
Sorry Something amiss in the statements and narration of article.
Dr.Kazi said that It was his company that was instrumental in awarding three projects, the Sikkim power project, the Sri Lanka land deal and the MoU with Prince of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia for a joint venture in ground handling services in Saudi Arabia." Even for the Sikkim power project, which was in the pipeline, the company went ahead and declared it.
So finally you came to know for your earlier coverage on SPDC who the culprit is? Kazi claims he is instrumental in awarding those contracts. But did he share the wrath or wrecked concurrent?????
When he says the company is interested in raising money through announcements though there are no evidences of company raising money, even presuming company risen the money and did not pay kazi, then why he keeps on his website that there is no money with the company.
Something somewhere missing in Kazi's statements dear digital team.
Something a miss in the article in the statement of Kazi.
1) How Kazi gave preferential in his company without money being paid? Can Kazi issue like that?
2) As per Dr.Kazi company is interested in raising money by announcements through markets?
Company gave announcements, but where did it raise money?
Some disconnect Somewhere??????
Interestingly Kazi Aviation has two URL's. Do Google search. the following is the result.
Welcome To Kazi Aviation and Travel ServicesKAZI AVIATION & TRAVEL SERVICES HAS TERMINATED MOU SIGNED AT HYDERABAD WITH CONCURRENT ... NO FUNDS FOR 6 MONTHS TO PAY TO KAZI AVIATION BY K SUDHIR BABU. ...
http://www.kaziaviation.com/ - Cached - Similar
Welcome To Kazi Aviation and Travel ServicesA New Company Was Incepted In 1994 The Name Of M/S Kazi Aviation & Travel Services By Dr Hamid Abdulaziz Kazi As The Proprietor And Later Extended The ...
http://www.kaziaviation.com/Aboutus%20.html - Cached - Similar
How come the site has two versions, one site doesnot have any info about the Kazi Aviation, it only has Kazi Aviation Cancellation.
Something Wrong Some Where Digital Team