The progress of this MLM company reminds one of the Home Trade scam, where the company spent huge money on advertising and signing mega celebrities like Sachin Tendulkar and Shah Rukh Khan to gain publicity, before duping several people, including the stars
Many agents of SpeakAsia, the self-proclaimed 'biggest online survey company', have posted comments all over the Internet about the company's 'Gen X Bazaar' event being held in Goa from May 9 to 11 and the special train that was booked to take participants for the programme.
Some agents said, and we quote, "In the entire history of India this has NEVER happened - it's spectacular. SpeakAsia arranging a special train for SpeakAsians only is a BIG news." More about the special train and Goa bash later.
The company or its agents-sorry panellists and distributors-are spending huge money on advertising, social gatherings and trying to buy credibility for its dubious MLM scheme. Over the past few weeks, SpeakAsia or its distributors have published half-page ads in leading dailies and run ad films on TV channels, especially during the ongoing IPL cricket matches. So many more people have started searching for information about the company and its online survey scheme.
The company had also issued a public notice some time back. But despite the notice, many other people are also coming together on the Internet, forming groups and forums to prevent the MLM scheme from spreading further.
Following letters from Moneylife to the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) on the issue, the central bank is said to had discussed it and is contemplating action against the MLM company, according to our sources.
Now to the special train and the Goa bash. There is no doubt that booking a special train for a big bash at a beach resort in Goa was done to attract more eyeballs and so hook more gullible people who might choose to join the MLM scheme. For one, booking a special train is not a big deal and can be done by any one who has the money to pay for it. The Indian Railways charges Rs9 lakh as a minimum registration-cum-security amount and the booking must be done 30 days before the date the train is required.
Also, a special train is nothing so special, as people in and around Mumbai are aware. Every year, hundreds of thousands of of people travel by special trains to Mumbai, to pay tribute to Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar on 6th December. (About 200,000 people visited Chaityabhoomi, the memorial site, on 6 December 2010.)
Some SpeakAsia agents have been gung-ho about the cheap fare by the special train. On the contrary, we learn that each agent had to pay $170 for a ticket in the three-tier AC and they were required to pay from their e-wallet accounts, for which the currency conversion rate is Rs50 a dollar. This means the agents paid Rs8,500 or equivalent for the journey by the special train as against the scheduled fare of about Rs1,450.
Some agents said that the $170 included ticket charges and meals. However, even if one were to take into account the ticket fare from Delhi to Goa and back along with meals, the charge should not have been more than Rs5,000 per person. So, the agents paid at least Rs3,500 of their hard-earned money over and above the actual charges from their e-wallet. This excludes the cost of accommodation.
Now about the event. As SpeakAsia often said, it was a Gen X Bazaar, where people (its agents) would come together to shop products from companies like Levis, IFB, Maruti, Skoda, etc. As is the practise with many manufacturers and service providers, they offer additional discounts for a group. (Check some group buying sites) The same logic applies to the Goa bazaar as well and there was nothing special for the agents.
How the agents would carry the products they bought, back home, is a different story. Except for the Levis jeans (that they could wear or carry in their bags) and automobiles (they would have to drive back in the vehicle and forget the special train ride back), all other products would have to be transported and this would cost more money. (Try offering money from an e-wallet to the 'truckwallah' or any local goods carrier.) In addition, the goods purchased at a discount at the bazaar would likely attract local levies, like octroi, that would have to be paid in real currency.
Some agents were very excited about the entertainment programmes in the evenings. According to the information obtained from some blogs, Bollywood actor Rani Mukherjee and Neha Dhupia and performers like Mika Singh and Abhijeet Sawant were there to entertain the agents. All the names mentioned are commercial artists who do entertainment shows anywhere and everywhere for a fee. Here again, nothing special.
A gathering of people under the pretext of a seminar or a bazaar is not unusual, especially in MLM circles. In fact, all multi-level marketing (MLM) companies have such gatherings at posh locations regularly to keep their flock intact and growing. Remember, how JapanLIFE and GoldQuest or QuestNet used to invite people to functions at five-star hotels?
Just for reference, a few years ago, Home Trade endorsed mega celebrities like Sachin Tendulkar, Hrithik Roshan and Shah Rukh Khan to cover up its meticulously planned financial scam. (Read, Home Trade's 'starry' gameplan.)
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If u r so convinced abt the Business Model of SpeakAsia and 20 other similar companies operating at present, pls answer the following questions:
1. U say that the subscription fee of 11,500/- is for the E-zine. Pls let me know u or for that matter who ever has joined SPOL, r they really interested to subscribe the E-zine to gain out of the product OR the objective is to make QUICK money, that too with out any real effort ???
2. When SPOL promises to give ~500% return (with referral, the returns are astronomical even), the company must be making sure shut return of much more than 500%. Tell me which business in the world make such kind of return ? Even the high risk Equity market generally gives avg. 25-30% p.a. return. Conventional business men target a return of 5 to 30% depending upon the business. If business of SPOL is so lucrative in making hefty returns, should not Mukesh Ambani be thinking of starting this biz, rather than getting standard returns in his risky conventional biz ?
3. Further u or for that matter any one may be in a conventional job or biz, makes limited hard earned money after toiling hard for 12-15 hrs a day. If SPOL is so lucrative (min 500% return), that too without any real effort, is it not making sense to go out of job/ stopping the conventional biz and put hugh investment in SPOL after selling out assets and make quick money too fast. It will really sort out the prob of unemployment in the world yaar !!!
My dear friend...pls don't get scared of my hard questions...think with a cool mind, see ur self in the mirror and answer to urself. And in case u really get the answers, pls let us know to the point so that it can really benefit many.
I'm not against u or SPOL. But just really interested to know the exact answers to the above questions. Country India will really benefit.
So far I always believed in one thing, there is no result with out hard work. However if the hard work can be channelised in right direction, one can make Big money in short span, which is legal.
Thanks n regards,
Kishore
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One request - Pls maintain the decorum of the forum for constructive critism. Whoever thinks of putting any abusive thoughts, he/she shd mind that it is directed to him/herself.
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RP payouts happen when the panelist burns those earned reward points for purchase of products and services from the website. The company’s business model is to make profits from product and service sales after providing for the cost of servicing the reward points.
Speak Asia gets research done ‘on’ and ‘for’ different companies, products and services; panelists earn reward points (RP) for participating with their valuable opinions in the surveys.
Effective June- July 2011, advertisement based revenues will start where panelists earn reward points (RP) for watching the ads carefully and giving them feedback on the same.
Products are available with Speak Asia at special rates; panelists earn through saving on purchase or reselling of products.
The Reward Points thus earned, are redeemed through consumption of product and services offered by the company .i.e. Panelists can book products ( such as mobile, LCD, white goods etc … aptly demonstrated in recent GenX bazaar at Goa where over 4,00,000 reward points were used by just 3,000 panelists for booking goods ) .
They can also buy subscription codes for distribution. The left over reward points can be encased on request made on the website. All cash requests are processed through the bank and money is sent from Singapore to respective banks through TT.
I am yet to see fool of first order like u. I am very categorically says that u do not have even 1% knowledge of law with respect to tax heaven iseland and business model of speak asia. The brat like u are non, but the frustrated one in life. Just wait we will make money and u will just keep on crying.
that is the reason they are trying to bring little inconsistencies of SA to light. ppl ..u will agree there are little inconsistencies in all businesses...even urs maybe...but star tv is making a mountain out of a molehill to remove competition from the market... Down with Star!!!!
We are not as fool as u it's true there is some problem with SAOS but in real it's change my life style and I hope co. come out from this problem than the time come all as u remaning fool come and join at last rember wht i said foolish
http://www.scribd.com/doc/54695794/Speak...
IF you have some understanding of facts (rather some common understanding on things) then you probably would stop cheating your near and dear ones.
This is for your information...
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/story/...
Dhyan se padhoge toh uchalna bhul jaoge...
I proud himself.
STAR NEWS IS NOT GOOD.
I havent seen any fraud company who has advertised on television. :)
The progress of this MLM company reminds one of the Home Trade scam, where the company spent huge money on advertising and signing mega celebrities like Sachin Tendulkar and Shah Rukh Khan to gain publicity, before duping several people, including the stars
Brother Ms Haren Kaur( LOL..what a name )has duped so much money from all of you that probably she can ask P Chidambaram to endorse the co.
I have recovered my money whatever amount i have invested in SA. Also I have not seen anyone yet who has invested and have not get paid yet. They are paying quite regularly.
-Prasad
be afraid of GOD atleast . . . .varna tumhare paap ka ghada bhar jaayega bahut jaldi!!!!
a) if they paid 68 crores in Service tax their income at the minimum should have been 680 crores
b) Where is this 68 crores accounted in 325 crore income.
c) Revenue figures are not adding up if they have 1.9 M customer and if 85 percent paid to be a panelist, assuming min a person gave was 10000, we are talking about 1600+ crores. how come they reported only 325 crore.
325 cr is not income, this is what SAOL remitted to Singapore, out of which they claim to returned 250 cr and this figures are for three quarters and not for Jan10 to 16 May 11. SAOL distributors (as they are not registered or have office in India) paid 68 cr service tax from the money that came back to India.
Please note that in order to sustain they need either of 2
1) They need to continue to grow, they might be able to grow for another 5-6 months. Since they are growing right now every one has got money on time as money is being rotated right now. And please note that for first 8 weeks you are getting your money back.
2) After that if they are not able to make (Number of panelists+sub panelists)*52000 from their ads and selling of survey data where would they get money from to give to people. Lets me set the perspective for 1.9 million people it will be 9880 crore every year. If they don't get it from new panel membership they need to get it from sale of their data else it will not work