Avoid HSBC Brazil Fund new fund offer
Moneylife Digital Team 14 April 2011

Rewards of investing in foreign funds are not worth the risk

HSBC Brazil Equity Fund, a fund of funds (FoF) is coming to the market. According to the prospectus filed with the Securities and Exchange Board of India (SEBI), the Fund will primarily invest in HGIF Brazil Equity Fund, managed by HSBC Global Investment Funds (HGIF), as well as in other overseas mutual fund (MF) schemes benchmarked against the MSCI Brazil 10/40 Index. It may also undertake currency hedging as a shield against volatility in the currency markets. Avoid it. Here are five reasons why it would be better to avoid it.

1.    It's a fund of funds: FoF is a lousy idea. It takes your money and puts it into other funds. It adds another layer of cost without adding any benefit.
 
2.    Monitoring: The Fund would be invested in a Brazilian fund investing in Brazilian securities. How much do you know about that fund? It would be a blind bet.

3.    Track record: We have no idea about the long-term performance record of the Brazilian equity fund.

4.    Diversification: Funds that put your money in other countries presumably offer another round of diversification. Well, in this case, it's not so. Brazilian and Indian markets are correlated. We don't see how you can derive additional returns without adding risk. In fact, the Brazilian market is as volatile as the Indian market. Mistakes by fund managers (that are lurking around the corner) can be very costly.

5.    Benchmarks are not available: Most shockingly, you cannot even compare how these funds have performed vis-à-vis a benchmark. Of the 16 funds in which HSBC Brazil Equity Fund says it would invest, benchmarks of eight schemes are not available in the public domain to facilitate a comparison of their performance with respect to the benchmarks.

Those who read Moneylife regularly will know, as we have pointed this out long ago, that funds which take your money and invest in foreign stocks are pure fads. In the very fifth issue of the magazine, way back in 2006 (Moneylife, 7 May 2006), when fund companies launched foreign funds, we wrote: "Fund companies are offering a chance for geographical diversification. There are several reasons why this is not a great idea." In our 40th issue (Moneylife, 13 September 2007), again we wrote: "Offering you funds that invest abroad is the flavour of the season. Stay away from these for now." But, of course, bull markets can keep dubious ideas in circulation for years together. By the time it was the 43rd issue (Moneylife, 25 October 2007), we were forced to write that "International funds are a rage now, but early entrants have a patchy record." Finally, in our 73rd issue (Moneylife, 18 December 2008), we had a report card. An article titled "Global Funds, Local Results" laid bare the truth. We said, "Fund companies may not know much about the value and price of Indian stocks, but they surely don't lack confidence in exhorting you to invest in a fund that invests in foreign stocks. How have these funds done over the past one year? They have all lost tonnes of money."

The faddish nature of the funds comes through clearly. When the commodity markets are shooting up, fund companies will launch commodity-focused equity funds. When the Chinese market is hot, they will launch a China fund. No wonder that in 2007, at the height of the bull market, as many as eight funds were launched that planned to invest overseas. All of them have performed very badly since inception. On an average, they have given returns as low as 0.1%. When they were launched, we had pointed out that these funds were mere gimmicks.

Comments
Madhu
2 decades ago
A few points -
1) Moneylife has earlier written in some articles that global funds are uselss. The fact remains that some part of portfolio needs to be diversified. The timing is important here.
2) Though Brazil as a economy has pothential and so has India and Historically both have had high correlation and so in that respect it doesnt make sense to invest these. One needs to invest in a theme to diveesify which is not correlated like a developed market fund.
3) The fund might not be a good idea as doing some research, I found that this fund is rated as 1 star (Lowest Rating) by Morningstar (One of the premier rating agencies worldwide). The feeder fund has under performed the benchmark and peer group. It's like if a foregin national wants to invest in India story through a MF route and he has to invest in the worst perforimg Large cap fund in India like he invests in JM Equity Fund rather than a HDFC Top 200 Fund as he doesnt have any other choice.
4) As a tactical call even if Barzil makes sense, going by fund's performance it is a BIG no. One should wait for some other fund house's fund which has a better track record or take a similar commodity exposure through some other fund.
ashok
2 decades ago
Pls read the remarks of Money Life.
MoneyVriksh
2 decades ago
Dear,
It is wrongly mentioned in the article that benchmark is not available. Brazil MSCI 10/40 index is the benchmark.

and we believe, even investing in brazil do give diversification in form of socio-political factors
Hemant
2 decades ago
@arjun
"Brasil has massive "planned" spending ear marked for its infrastructure for Football world cup in 2014 and olympics in 2016. Bigger events than cricket world cup and CWG. Notice the operative word is planned and not chaotic and curruption ridden as in India."
This is breathtakingly idiotic.
Did you invest in Chinese stocks before the Olymics? What were your returns?
arjun punia
Replied to Hemant comment 2 decades ago
well may be you are right... i am not going to fight you on this, but i feel that investments that i have made in 2009 till today in Chinese funds have returned close to 18% P.A.
rajesh
2 decades ago
All these comments seem motivated and sponsored by the fund company. Not one of the points have been refuted. Investing based on one year data is incredibly stupid. Do you guys even know one company of Brazil?
Thanks Moneylife for being telling us like it is
nishikant
2 decades ago
I truely agree with above comments. This article is totally baseless and without any home work and more of influenced by other fund houses. Its a great fund and one should have horizon of 1 to 3 yrs to have great return on investments.
Maharaj
Replied to nishikant comment 1 decade ago
Do you work for HSBC ....i was told by one of the so called "relationship manager" to invest in this...since the day of launch this fund has rarely been above the purchase price of 10 per unit...people like u (if u r fund manager) make fool out of people to meet your targets and earn good bonus...
Arjun Punia
2 decades ago
Just a few things about this article

1) This is not a fund of funds, it is actually a fund of a fund (singular). This fund invests into HGIF Brasil fund. The HGIF directly invests into 40-60 stocks. So i believe this is an irresponsible comment.

2) Also the fact that it is a fad is incorrect, as Brasillian economy is quite different from india as Brasil has a trade surplus, compared to India's trade deficit. So oil prices rise and comodity rise effects India more adversely than it would Brasil as they produce sufficient oil and comodities.

3) Brasil has massive "planned" spending ear marked for its infrastructure for Football world cup in 2014 and olympics in 2016. Bigger events than cricket world cup and CWG. Notice the operative word is planned and not chaotic and curruption ridden as in India.

In my opinion this fund is well worth it for the Indian investor. You would be a brave man to bet against Brazil being more bullish than India in the Short to Mid term.
CSK
Replied to Arjun Punia comment 2 decades ago
The SCHEME INFORMATION DOCUMENT says HSBC Brazil Equity Fund (HBEF) is An open-ended fund of funds scheme (Plural).!!
arjun punia
Replied to CSK comment 2 decades ago
Also from SCHEME INFORMATION DOCUMENT :
Asset Allocation Pattern of the Scheme:

Units/shares of HGIF Brazil Equity Fund - 95%-100%
Money Market instruments (including CBLO & reverse repo) and / or units of liquid mutual fund schemes - 0%-5%

From HSBC GIF Brazil Equity Fund
Sales aid:

Fund Characteristics
Universe: Brazilian Equities with no capitalisation constraints
Benchmark: MSCI Brazil 10/40
Number of stocks: 40 to 60 stocks on average
Management fees: 1.75% tax included
Performance fees: NONE
Subscription fees: 5.54% maximum, tax included
Redemption fees: NONE
Dealing: Daily before 10:00 (CET)
Valuation: Daily
Settlement: Trade day + 4 business days

NOTE: Number of stocks: 40 to 60 stocks on average, not funds but stocks, so where is the argument
Roger
2 decades ago
Brazil is an extremely promising economy which compliments India in many ways. Its a Commodity giant and will become a leading Oil exporter in coming years. The demographics and per capita income are extremely attractive. This particular fund already has a track record of more than 5 years and a benchmark (MSCI Brazil10/40) & the author should check the facts before commenting / criticising any economy or investment opportunity.
stanley
2 decades ago
You obviously have not done your homework before writing this piece. The Brazil Index gave over 150% return in 2009 which was way above any emerging market. Also most international fund out performed the indian markets in 2010! So please think before writing..This fund could be a sound investment keeping in mind that brazil unlike india is rich in commodities like oil & enjoys a trade surplus..
Dipak
2 decades ago
Brazil's equity market surely has given far better returns in the last few years... and i won't mind betting in Brazil.
Fund of fund may be a lousy idea (you could have put that in a better way), but your article sounds like street argument..
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