Economy
S&P says ratings on India sovereign unaffected by Budget announcement

Further developments in India's economic growth prospects, its external position, fiscal reforms including subsidies and GST, and political climate will determine the medium-term trajectory of the sovereign ratings on India, the ratings agency said

 
Global ratings agency Standard & Poor’s (S&P) said India’s targeted deficit of 4.8% of its gross domestic product (GDP) is in line with the country's medium-term fiscal consolidation plan recommended by 13th Finance Commission and there would be no impact in its BBB- rating with negative outlook on India's sovereign credit.
 
“The ratings on India continue to reflect the country’s favourable long-term growth prospects, moderately deep capital markets, and a high foreign exchange reserves. India's large fiscal deficits and debt, and its lower middle-income economy constrain the ratings. Further developments in India's economic growth prospects, its external position, fiscal reforms (including subsidies and GST), and political climate will determine the medium-term trajectory of the sovereign ratings on India,” S&P said.
 
The government also revised its estimate for the deficit in the current fiscal year ending March 2013, at 5.2% of GDP, which is smaller than the 5.3% target earlier. The improvement in the current fiscal year’s deficit outcome has been achieved mainly through reducing expenditures. At the same time, there is little progress in structural reforms to reduce the vulnerability of the government's fiscal position.
 
For example, India is still vulnerable to spikes in oil and other commodity prices. Although the government allowed a gradual increase in diesel prices earlier this year, the timing and the extent of such increases are uncertain. If the government enacts the Food Security Bill, the fiscal burden from food subsidy can increase. As a result, the total cost of subsidies may exceed the government's budgeted 2% of GDP in fiscal 2013-2014, compared with 2.6% in the current year, the ratings agency said.
 
The budget contains measures aimed at encouraging infrastructure projects—such as tax-free bond issuance—but their effectiveness in attracting much-needed investment is uncertain at this stage. 
 
“This is effectively the last budget for the United Progressive Alliance government before the next general election, which must be held by the second quarter of 2014. The government has presented a relatively prudent budget, in our view, despite the weak economic environment and the political temptation to increase fiscal expenditures ahead of a general election. However, there is a potential for the government to exceed its budgeted expenditures,” S&P said. 
 

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Vinay Joshi

4 years ago

What S&P says is of zero value!

Why S&P is hauled up in US courts?

Regards,

Budget 2013: The devil in the details

The much-hyped pre-election Budget turned out to be too superficial. What the minister did not say was more important than what he did. A confused stock market, unable to add up the contradictory facts highlighted by the FM, did the best thing it could under the available circumstance: sell

P Chidambaram, the finance minister (FM) was not only trending on social networking site Twitter, but almost everybody interested in money and finance was glued to his Budget speech. Not just taxpayers, but analysts and economists were expecting a bonanza from the FM ahead of the general election. In the end, however, it turned out to be short on facts, leaving everyone confused as to how he will add up the giveaways while creating growth.

 

“While the finance minister has, we believe, presented a prudent budget, the question is whether the numbers are achievable. Expenditure growth is budgeted to rise 16.4% year-on-year in FY14, from 9.7% in FY13, with a steep rise in plan expenditure. Government expenditure will rise to 14.7% of GDP from 14.3% in FY13. Food subsidies have shot up to Rs90,000 crore due to the Food Security Bill—a prelude to elections, which the government expects to be financed by keeping the oil and fertiliser subsidy burden under check,” said Nomura Financial Advisory and Securities (India) Pvt Ltd, in a note.

 

Kunj Bansal, chief investment officer of SANLAM India, said, “There are no path-breaking measures in the Budget to push the economic growth of the country and to take it out of its present state of slumber. There has been more focus than expected on populism. The fine-print has created more confusion. It is a missed opportunity which could have been used to present the India story to the world. The positive thing is continuation of taxes without too much tinkering, but some measures to curb parallel economy transactions would have been revenue generating.”

 

For the SC and ST sub-plans, the FM allocated Rs41,516 crore and Rs24,598 crore, respectively. This represents an increase of 12.5% over the Budget estimate and 31% over the revenue estimate of the current year. “I reiterate the rule that the funds allocated to the sub-plans cannot be diverted and must be spent for the purposes of the sub plans,” the finance minister said.

 

While allocating Rs3,511 crore for the ministry of minority affairs, the FM also allocated Rs160 crore to Maulana Azad Education Foundation to increase its corpus to Rs1,500 crore during the 12th plan. He also allocated Rs150 crore to launch medical facilities like an infirmary or a resident doctor in educational institutions run by the Foundation.

 

Chidambaram, in his Budget speech, tried to woo women as well. “Women are at the head of many banks today, including two public sector banks, but there is no bank that exclusively serves women. Can we have a bank that lends mostly to women and women-run businesses, that supports women SHGs and women’s livelihood, that employs predominantly women, and that addresses gender-related aspects of empowerment and financial inclusion?” he asked. The FM then announced of setting up India's first women's bank as a public sector bank and provided Rs1,000 crore as initial capital.

 

The FM said he hopes to obtain necessary approvals and the banking licence for the women's bank before October 2013. The question is what will a women’s bank achieve? If it was more money to support women through social services, policing and judicial system, it would have made sense. But a bank for and by women? Bizarre idea.

 

 

No change in tax slabs

Chidambaram, while keeping the personal income tax rates or slabs unchanged, said, “The rates of personal income tax have survived four finance ministers and four governments.  The current slabs were introduced only last year. Hence, I am afraid; there is no case to revise either the slabs or the rates. Nevertheless, I am inclined to give some relief to the tax payers in the first bracket of Rs2 lakh to Rs5 lakh. Assuming an inflation rate of 10% and a notional rise in the threshold exemption from Rs2 lakh to Rs2.20 lakh, I propose to provide a tax credit of Rs2,000 to every person who has a total income up to Rs5 lakh.”

 

This move is likely to benefit 1.8 crore tax payers to the value of Rs3,600 crore.

 

Kuldip Kumar, executive director for tax & regulatory services at PwC India, said, “Granting tax rebate of Rs2000 to those earning less than Rs5 lakh hardly means anything, keeping in view the current inflationary environment. Those earning more than Rs1 crore would also get irked as levy of surcharge of 10% on them is just a counter balancing measure without any specific purpose.”

 

Besides announcing a tax credit, the FM also tried to boost the housing sector. He provided an additional interest benefit of Rs1 lakh on first-time home loans for up to Rs25 lakh.

 

Calling the Budget as tepid for Indian real estate sector, Anuj Puri, chairman and country head, Jones Lang LaSalle India, said, “...this (Rs1 lakh additional interest benefit) provision is only for the first year and with a carry-forward benefit of the unutilised deduction to the second year. This will help boost housing sales in tier II and III cities and peripheral areas and distant suburbs of metros, but not within the metros, where housing is more targeted towards the mid and upper income segments.”

 

Gagan Banga, chief executive of Indiabulls, feels that this budget will provide a big relief for affordable home seekers and will be a boon for the housing industry. “The proposal to offer an additional interest deduction of Rs1 lakh on housing loans of up to Rs25 lakh for first-time home buyers will not only help housing as such, but will also lead to an increase in demand for steel, glass, cement and several other industries,” he said.

 

“While steps like Rs2,000, relief to taxpayers in the Rs2-Rs5 lakh bracket and Rs1 lakh additional relief on home loans of up to Rs25 lakh would certainly put more disposable income—howsoever little—in the pockets of the common man, these were much less than expected. Given continued inflation, there is very little real relief and cheer for the common man,” said Sunil Duggal, chief executive, Dabur India.

 

Rajiv Gandhi Equity Savings Scheme (RGESS)

In order to incentivise the household sector to save in financial instruments instead of buying gold, the FM allowed first-time investors to invest in mutual funds as well as in listed shares for three consecutive years. He also raised the income limit for RGESS to Rs12 lakh from Rs10 lakh per year.

 

Duty-free Gold

While the Reserve Bank of India is trying to woo people away from buying gold, the FM increased the duty-free limit for the precious metal. He said, “Gold prices have risen since, and passengers have complained of harassment. Hence, I propose to raise the duty-free limit to Rs50,000 in the case of a male passenger and Rs1 lakh in the case of a female passenger, subject to the usual conditions.”

 

The baggage rules permitting eligible passengers to bring jewellery was last amended in 1991.

 

1% TDS on transfer of immovable property

Chidambaram also proposed to levy additional 1% tax deducted at source (TDS) on transfer of immovable property. He said, “Transactions in immovable properties are usually undervalued and underreported. One half of the transactions do not carry PANs of the parties concerned. With a view to improve the reporting of such transactions and the taxation of capital gains, I propose to apply TDS at the rate of 1% on the value of the transfer of immovable property where the consideration exceeds Rs50 lakh. However, agricultural land will be exempt.”

 

However, according to Mr Puri, charging TDS on gross transaction value instead of net gains would affect sellers. “The TDS of 1%, to be charged on the transfer of immovable property, is an obvious move to curb speculation and bring about improved reporting and accountability in high-value immovable property transactions. Considering that the TDS is to be charged on the gross transaction value rather than net gains, sellers will have a cash-flow impact in situations where the sales are at a loss or at zero or negligible gains,” he said.

 

Transaction Tax

Taking note of the changes and shifts in the market regarding Securities Transaction Tax (STT), the finance minister, while reducing the STT, decided to impose transaction tax on commodities trading, except agricultural products. The STT on equity futures is now reduced to 0.01% from 0.017%, mutual fund (MF) and exchange traded fund (ETF) redemptions at fund counters to 0.001% from 0.25% and for MF, ETF purchase or sale on exchanges to 0.001% from 0.1% only on the seller. In other words, STT in derivative segment would be now charged at Rs1,000 per transaction of Rs1 crore, from Rs1720 earlier.

 

He also proposed to levy Commodities Transaction Tax (CTT) on non-agricultural commodities futures contracts at 0.01% of the price of the trade. He said, “Trading in commodity derivatives will not be considered as a ‘speculative transaction’ and CTT shall be allowed as deduction if the income from such transaction forms part of business income. As I said, agricultural commodities will be exempt.”

 

While welcoming the step to introduce transaction tax on commodities trading, DK Aggarwal, chairman and managing director of SMC Investments & Advisors, said, “Imposition of CTT on commodity non-agri futures will be a detrimental step for the growing popularity of commodity future as hedging instrument. However, the decision to consider commodity derivative profit and loss as business income against speculative income is a welcome step.”

 

SUVs to become costlier

Sports utility vehicles (SUVs), the hot favourite, did not find favour with Chidambaram. He said, “SUVs occupy greater road and parking space and ought to bear a higher tax. I propose to increase the excise duty on SUVs to 30% from 27%. However, the increase will not apply to SUVs registered as taxis.”

 

Indian automakers, especially SUV producers are not happy with the decision. S Sandilya, president of Society of Indian Automobile Manufacturers said, “This is the only segment in the industry which has been doing well this year and increasing price of these vehicles would dampen sales and impact market sentiments further.”

 

Chidambaram said there is an affluent class in India that consumes imported luxury goods such as high-end motor vehicles, motorcycles, yachts and similar vessels and he was sure that they will not mind paying a little more. He increased the duty on such motor vehicles to 100% from 75%; on motorcycles with engine capacity of 800cc or more to 75% from 60% and on yachts and similar vessels to 25% from 10%.

 

Welcoming the finance minister's decision to increase duty on imported vehicles, Mr Shandilya, said, “The increase in customs duty for luxury cars and motorbikes seems to be an effort to raise more revenue and to encourage local manufacturing, value addition and employment. The proposal to increase duty on second-hand vehicles to 125% from 100% is the right step. It clearly conveys that India is not ready to accept old vehicles from other countries.”

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nagesh kini

4 years ago

The vast numbers of urban crorepatis enjoying tax-free income from dividends and capital gains and the farm lobby who don't pay any taxes do not figure in the super-rich/ultra high net worth individuals. The Rs.2,000 deductions for the lower tax brackets - just "balances the accountants' budget" ! PC to clarify.

S BHASKARA NARAYANA

4 years ago

AS MOST OF THE OLD INVESTORS BURNT THEIR FINGERS IN 2008 MARKET CRASH, AND AWAY FROM THE MARKET,"RGESS" IS PLANTED TO TEMPT NEW INVESTORS.

NSriramamurty

4 years ago

10 % Surchrge on Persons with Income above Rs. 1 crore PA is applicable for 42,800 Indians Media Questioned Jyothi Scindian and Praful Patel that above 80,000 Crorepathis are in Indians as per Various Reports, which is Likely to go upto 2 Lakhs by 2014, for Both Bypassed Reply Directly.Has FM Considered Employees/ers in His Calculations,ignoring Politicians. FM has to Clarify and increase Tax net on SuperRich including Politicians.Mr.Botsa Satyanarayan AP Minister has spent Rs. 50 Crores on his Daughter's wedding and Media Cried for Misusing Police and Transport Departments,But No Direct Answer from either Minister or CM or High Buereaucrates.Will they come under SuperRich Surcharge TaxNet ?

M G WARRIER

4 years ago

Pre-budget speculations and post-budget analysis are both indicative of the real mood of the people, who, otherwise, take things in their stride and live a normal life. It would appear, as if, it is the rich who are the only people contributing to country’s GDP. Let economists bother about this.
FM has revealed that there are ‘only’ 42,800 persons in India who admitted to a taxable income exceeding Rs1 crore per year. As privacy and secrecy issues will prevent FM from giving out the names of these 42,800 persons, he should arrange to prepare a district-wise list of these individuals and provide to each District Magistrate/Collector the number (only the number) of rich people in the respective districts who have annual income exceeding Rs1 crore. Collectors should be asked to make ‘discreet’ enquiries and report ‘who’ these persons could be and who all are likely ‘omissions’ in the list. Quite possible, GDP may not grow at the expected growth rate, but, next year (2014), FM will be able to give a six-digit figure against the 42,800 he included in the Budget Speech on February 28, 2013.

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Mrs Kokila Mani

In Reply to M G WARRIER 4 years ago

Yes, I must get a response from Info Chiefs full details

HG Sharma

4 years ago

Duty free gold permissible as said in budget, is it for the gold ornaments a passenger wears on his body (old and New) or Gold in the form of biscuit or ornament carried in luggage.

Dayananda Kamath k

4 years ago

the budget is a time bomb ticking for indian economy. he has introduced ctt on nonagricultural commodities. so he want speculators to take the ride to inflation. one of the main reason for inflation in food articles is futures in agricultural commodities. as commodities market is delt in by speculators and not by traders or agriculturists. in equitymarket stt is reduced on futures and not on cash so he wants to enrich speculators in equitymarket than investors. who are mostly dealing in futures it is fiis. then the permission to fiis to deal in currency derivatives. the rupee will be at the mercy of fiis becasue equity as well as forex market can be easily manipulated by fiis to make arbitrage. god save this countryfrom foriegn elements.

Dev

4 years ago

TDS at the rate of 1% on the value of the transfer of immovable property where the consideration exceeds Rs50 lakh ---

TDS for capital gains? who is liable to remit the tax - buyer or seller? What will be the procedure?

Can anybody please clarify?

Mathew Thomas

4 years ago

What in this budget would reduce inequality? What will lead to increased agriculture growth? What would prevent unplanned urban sprawl?
What would ensure efficient utilisation of money allocated for various purposes?
Is this a budget based on trickle down economics ?

Nilesh KAMERKAR

4 years ago

It is only TV Channels that have got something (ad revenues) from this year's budget . . .

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Vinay Joshi

In Reply to Nilesh KAMERKAR 4 years ago

Mr. Nilesh,

The financial channels & TimesNow never took a break for almost more than three & a half continuous hours of telecast.

Exemplify your statement for credence, if you can't on Budget.

Regards,

nagesh kini

4 years ago

The 2013 Budget is a damp squib to say the least. It has not proposed anything substantial to reduce the current account and fiscal deficits or curb the galloping inflation.
Levying a mere 10% surcharge on the Income tax on the super rich and not raising the basic tax is a hopeless politically incorrect vote catching gimmick.
Unfortunately we don't have a Didi to "roll back" the FM as she did with the RM last year!

Passport troubles in Pune: One agent assures online appointments for Rs200

Naresh Kevalramani, a passport applicant from Pune has been seeking appointment online for the last whole week but did not get it. He has been assured an appointment by a passport agent. Will TCS and the Regional Passport Office still blink despite this evidence?

The trauma of getting an online appointment after an applicant has filled his online application form for getting his new passport or renewing passport continues to haunt citizens in Pune.

 

While the efforts of the Pune Passport Grievance Forum (PPGF) has resulted in sporadic efficiency, the overall dismal picture of online appointments evading the applicant for weeks, the pre- and post-police verification issues continue. Similarly, the “hell care” attitude of citizens at the Passport offices run by the ministry of external affairs and the Tata Consultancy Services (TCS) respectively has also been reported.

 

Following is an example of a forthright citizen Naresh Kevalramani, who has applied for renewal of the passports of his wife and son, but has not been able to get his appointment online since the past week. Finally, a passport agent assured him an appointment. Kevalramani has shown guts as a citizen to come out in the open and forward the email of the passport agent, instead of keeping quiet and getting his personal work done through these means. If many more Kevalramanis come out in the open, exposing passport agents, it could make a difference.

 

Kevalramani has been writing these emails to me in my capacity as the Convener of Pune Passport Grievance Forum. Reply to his emails and subsequently his emails to me have been copied to senior officers of TCS—Tanmoy Chakrabarty, Pradipta Bagchi, Ashis Babu and Manoj Raghav, as also to Muktesh Pardeshi, Chief Passport Officer; Shakuntala Rane and Regional Passport Officer. However, none of them have had the courtesy to reply.

 

Finally Kevalramani wrote to a passport agent called Sahil:

“On 2/26/13, Naresh Kevalramani <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Salil, Can you help me to book appointment for PSK Pune.

Kindly inform the charges.

Regards,

 

Sahil writes: From: SahiL <[email protected]>Date: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 11:29 PM

To: Naresh Kevalramani <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: PSK Appointment

Thanks for your mail. Sir i can book an appointment for you at Pune PSK, for this the charges shall be Rs200, and you have to pay this amount after the booking of appointment, payment options:-

SBI & AXIS BANK, by net banking or directly deposit to these banks account.Plz. Reply ASAP”

 

I have forwarded this mail to the TCS and MEA’s passport authorities stating: “Oh my God—this is shocking Nareshji. Mr Raghav and Ms Rane could you please take immediate action on this agent? If not, it means there is a nexus between your employees and agents who are TOTALLY ILLEGAL!

Vinita

 

The following mail trail between Kevalramani and me reveals the trauma passport applicants face:

From: Naresh Kevalramani <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, February 25, 2013 3:26 PM

For the last one week, I am trying to get the appointment for passport application filled in for my wife and son (case of passport expiry). I find that the appointment are begun to be allotted around 3 pm and within 4 to 5 minutes all slots become full and the system is shut down. 

I do not understand as to how I can get an appointment. I am trying for the last one week but unable to get the appointment. Twice I was successful but as soon as I selected the timing, I was logged out. Kindly help. 

Best Regards, 

Naresh.”

 

My reply/forwarded to Regional Passport Officer, Shakuntala Rane and Kevalramani:

“Dear Mrs Rane,

Please find below a complaint by Mr Naresh Kevalramamani who is not getting his online appointment. I am asking him to ‘walk-in’ at your office. Please do the needful

cheers and warm rgds

Vinita

 

Dear Mr Kevalramani

Please visit the Passport Office, Senapati Bapat Road, during working hours of any working day and get your appointment there.  I suggest you visit the passport office and meet Ms Rane, Regional Passport Officer or Ms Arora, Assistant Passport Officer, both of whom are very open to addressing complaints and will surely give you an appointment immediately. You may call Ms Rane or Ms Arora on 020-25675419. If you don't get thru her landline no. you may call Ms Rane on her cell no 08xxxxxx2.

All the best,

Vinita”

 

Kevalramani’s response to me:

“Hi Vinita, 

 

Thanks for your prompt response and support. 

 

I again tried today to get the online appointment. I was online since 2.45 pm on my broadband connection at home which is a AIRTEL 2 MBPS speed connected to my computer (Apple Mac Book Air) so no hardware or software issues. Only one laptop connected to the connection. 

 

Today, I selected the time of 12.30 to 12.45 pm for 05 March and when asked to put in the confirmation code I put in the same and waited for the appointment confirmation. Instead of getting the confirmation I was logged out of the system. The system closed at 3.04 pm saying that all appointments are full today. So in effect one gets only 4 minutes to book the appointment which is impractical and unrealistic. 

 

The same thing has happened twice before and I do not understand what type of a system this is built by TCS. 

 

In fact when the application form is submitted on line the appointment should be given, the appointment can be for a later date say 15 or even 20 days later. Trying to get the appointment is becoming a daily ritual with no success. 

 

I see a number of people who have been marked a copy of this mail. Can we citizens of India expect a realistic and practical system of working rather than this 4 minute slot everyday. 

 

Await response from any one of the above people who have been marked copies and are part of the system. 

 

Best Regards, 

 

Naresh”



My appeal to TCS officials since e-governance is their responsibility:
 

“Dear Mr Bagchi and Mr Raghav
This is a very serious problem and common occurrence. Pl immediately address this problem. Please treat this as SOS
Rgds
 

Vinita”


Kevalramani writes to TCS officials with cc to me:
 

“Dear Mr Bagchi and Mr Raghav, 

 

Though I am not a software engineer but an avid user of Internet since the last 15 years and use the net extensively for banking, online air and rail ticket booking, bill payments, etc. 

 

Nowhere, I have seen such a system wherein the user makes the selection (in this case the appointment time) and is immediately logged out or that slot taken by some other individual. Even for airlines/ trains/ cinema tickets, I recollect that the slot (reservation) is available for 5 minutes for the user to confirm and proceed ahead with the payment. 

 

Anyway, I am an individual and will somehow manage to get the appointment by personally meeting the passport officers but as a system, this needs a drastic improvement to make it user friendly and instill confidence in the citizens that passport application process is an easy process and not a pain, as currently it is. 

 

Regards, 

Naresh”

 

My reply with cc to TCS officials addressed in Kevalramani’s mail:

“Yes, many passport applicants are frustrated at this inability to get appointments. I urge the RPO and TCS officials to check whether there is an alleged nexus between the agents and employees of the Passport office. How is it that agents can assure appointment and get it done immediately? I am sure this is not rocket science and if TCS has the will, it can immediately solve the problem. This is sheer citizen harassment.

Please take action, Sirs.

rgds

Vinita”

 

Kevalramani after trying for an appointment again, writes a mail to me:
 

“The same sequence of events happened today….

 

I selected a time slot of late noon hours  and filled in the security code (the alpha numeric code seen on the captcha), immediately after this the system logged me out and on the second attempt to login and get the appointment, all appointments are booked. 

 

The system was open for exactly 4 minutes. 

 

Can somebody from TCS advise and tip me on the trick to get the appointment ???????

 

Regards, 

 

Naresh”


Finally Kevalramani writes to a passport agent called Sahil

 

“Hi Vinita, 

 

Pasted below the correspondence I had with one of the agent who has openly posted on a website saying that he can manage appointment for any PSK in India. 

 

I asked him his charges and sent him a mail yesterday evening which was promptly replied by him confirming the charges at Rs 200 for each appointment made by him. Payment to be made after the appointment is booked. 

 

You can also send him a mail and ask him his charges. 

 

Regards, 

Naresh”

 

Read related stories here:

Inordinate delays at Pune Passport office; RTI applications rejected

Pune Passport Grievance Forum: Participants blame TCS for delay in getting their passports on time

While Pune Regional Passport Officer assures easing procedures, TCS hides but cannot escape

We are not bound to give your passport in the 45-day period, says India’s Chief Passport Officer
 

(Vinita Deshmukh is the consulting editor of Moneylife, an RTI activist and convener of the Pune Metro Jagruti Abhiyaan. She is the recipient of prestigious awards like the Statesman Award for Rural Reporting which she won twice in 1998 and 2005 and the Chameli Devi Jain award for outstanding media person for her investigation series on Dow Chemicals. She co-authored the book “To The Last Bullet - The Inspiring Story of A Braveheart - Ashok Kamte” with Vinita Kamte and is the author of “The Mighty Fall”.)

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Sucheta Dalal

2 years ago

Big News: Regional Passport Officers -
Mumbai & Thane, will answer your queries

Painless Passports: No Agents Needed!

Mr Tanmoy Chakrabarty, VP & Head of the Global Govt Industry Group at Tata Consultancy Services, will explain how passport issuance has been transformed, what you can expect in terms of service, speed and efficiency; and the next phase of the automation process which will track Indian workers abroad.

He will also talk about the e-migrate system that has been launched by the Govt to protect the interests of Indians going abroad for work.

Dr Swati Kulkarni, Regional Passport Officer - Mumbai.
IFS and MBBS, she worked as Consul General of India in South Africa before becoming Mumbai's RPO

Mr TD Sharma, Regional Passport Officer - Thane.

Come and have your queries answered on these and many other benefits of the e-migrate process and automation of passports.







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vijay

4 years ago

to the respected author of this post , and post related to passport issue .
Mam, i have been trying to get appointment to submit my application form , but it has been months and i am unable to submit the application ,
no matter how early i start in the end i get the same error message ,
the message state 500 appointments books , all slots full try next day .
what can be done regarding this non sense ? Is there anyway to fight with these kind of problem ? Kindly help me and guide me how can I fight with these autocracies of agency .

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PRADEEP SATHYE

In Reply to vijay 4 years ago

I HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING APPOINTMENT ONLINE BUT WITH GREAT DIFFICULTY. TWO OF US SAT, LOGGED ON TO THE SITE. WE ADJUSTED OUR WATCHES TO THE TIME AS ON THE SITE, AND AT EXACTLY SHARP 3.0 PM WE HIT THE KEY. THEN THERE WERE THREE CAPCHA TO BE DONE. I WAS READING THE CHARACTERS AND THE OTHER PERSON WAS TYPING IT FAST.I MANAGED TO GET THE APPOINTEMENT. I DID NOT BOTHER WHAT WAS THE APPOINTMENT. JUST ACCEPTED AND ON 5TH MARCH I GOT APPOINTMENT FOR 12 THE MARCH BRAVO RATHER EUREKA THAT IS WHAT I SHOUTED.
THIS WAS ONLY FOR ONE APPOINTMENT WHEN I TRIED FOR ANOTHER APPOINTMENT IT WAS ALL OVER.FULL IN THREE MINUTES.
I AM READY TO TAKE THE LEAD AND LET US MARCH TO TOI AND EXPRESS OFFICE AND RAISE THIS ISSUE.
PLEASE LET US COME TOGETHER SAY SOME 50 STRONG GROUP AND PLAN IT FOR NEXT THURSDAY.
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Ashok

4 years ago

Its sheer lack of will and wrong intentions behind such crap system. Otherwise it can be hard to put a better and more functional system in place. See the PAN card system, where ever govt need a spy eye to monitor us they are very efficient, for rest of things its pathetic & limpy
like old dog.

Ashok

4 years ago

I like many more others have had similar sequence of events with booking appointment at Pune PSK, but a successful booking
still eludes me. Meanwhile I contacted an agent in Kharadi Pune who promises to book me an appointment at a fees. Of-course I don't want to go though him.

Let me know if more details are needed. What I would want is this nexus be exposed and a better system be placed. An automatic appointment at the time of online application filling can be an option.

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PRADEEP SATHYE

In Reply to Ashok 4 years ago

I HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING APPOINTMENT ONLINE BUT WITH GREAT DIFFICULTY. TWO OF US SAT, LOGGED ON TO THE SITE. WE ADJUSTED OUR WATCHES TO THE TIME AS ON THE SITE, AND AT EXACTLY SHARP 3.0 PM WE HIT THE KEY. THEN THERE WERE THREE CAPCHA TO BE DONE. I WAS READING THE CHARACTERS AND THE OTHER PERSON WAS TYPING IT FAST.I MANAGED TO GET THE APPOINTEMENT. I DID NOT BOTHER WHAT WAS THE APPOINTMENT. JUST ACCEPTED AND ON 5TH MARCH I GOT APPOINTMENT FOR 12 THE MARCH BRAVO RATHER EUREKA THAT IS WHAT I SHOUTED.
THIS WAS ONLY FOR ONE APPOINTMENT WHEN I TRIED FOR ANOTHER APPOINTMENT IT WAS ALL OVER.FULL IN THREE MINUTES.
I AM READY TO TAKE THE LEAD AND LET US MARCH TO TOI AND EXPRESS OFFICE AND RAISE THIS ISSUE.
PLEASE LET US COME TOGETHER SAY SOME 50 STRONG GROUP AND PLAN IT FOR NEXT THURSDAY.
MY EMAIL ID IS [email protected].

anyone can contact me on 9422513200 or 9158004292

Anurag

4 years ago

Are we looking at worse version of IRCTC in making?

REPLY

Manoj

In Reply to Anurag 4 years ago

Haha Buddy same feelings the time i came to know TCS will operate it now i had the feeling that it should not be bad version of IRCTC

PRADEEP SATHYE

4 years ago

BUT WHAT IS THE FINAL OUTCOME

Prakash Kundur

4 years ago

Hi,
I am from Bangalore. The ordeal faced by Mr Naresh is the same that I am going through.Every step followed by me and him are the same.

In Bangalore the bookings open from 6:00 PM.I log in at 5.55PM and at 6:00PM some days even before getting an appointment slot, the passport office server is overloaded and becomes slow.It is back to normal when you get the message saying all the 625 slots have been bookedand to try the next working day at 6:PM.You sit in front of the system the next day praying that all is working well.You may be lucky to go to an appointment slot and the system will not take you forward or you are logged out.By the time you re log in and key in the password, alpha numeric code the day's quota is over.

AS rightly pointed out, once somebody has clicked on a particular time slot, there should be an opportunity for him to complete the transaction within a reasonable time of at least a minute or two.The system because of overload will be slow and you can't do much.The whole 625 slots are filled up in a matter of 2/3 minutes and at 6:04 you are informed that the day's quota number is over.What do you do??

This has been repeatedly happening day after day for the past week. Thinking that I should not be encouraging touts I have not gone to them yet. But it appears that I have no choice.

Also as pointed out by Naresh, why should the booking be available for only one day?So much time and effort is wasted everyday by thousands of people.
Why should it be so difficult?
Even the US consulate where we need to fix an appointment it is not so difficult.You have a choice of many days and of course not a particular time on that day of your choice.

My passport is to be renewed after expiry of 10 years.There is no change in address or any of the personal details.It should be a simple and straight forward process. The passport office can receive our application and old passport at a counter physically and take their time for reissue. But we can't go and do this without fixing an appointment which has become such an ordeal.

Can you please do something for the Bangalore PSK to help citizens and not encourage touts.
IF NOT A RELIABLE TOUT WHO CAN FIX THE APPOINTMENT EASILY.

arun

4 years ago

I keep getting complaints on my consumer help website http://www.consumergrievance.com about Thane passport office where agents charge Rs 200 for just filling the form and other amounts for getting appointment.
Even the online forms do not open at times when you try from home, but these forms open when agents log in.
In one case the agent's staff added a middle name (which was not required as per the old passport). The passport was made in wrong name. It is a big concern that if the agent submits application, you can get a passport even in wrong name !!
This is the security at Thane passport office. Everything is possible if you take the help of FRIENDLY agent who knows people inside passport office. You can get passport in any name you want that too with police verification.

Arun Saxena
http://www.consumergrievance.com

Veeresh Malik

4 years ago

Here in Delhi the asking rates start from 700/- rupees and upwards. The agents are bold enough to advertise on JUSTDIAL.

http://www.justdial.com/Delhi/passport-a...


Krishna

4 years ago

Aha, not sure if this is some unholy nexus between TCS and agents or is it simply a problem of a badly designed system. The trick to get an appointment is to open two tabs in the browser and logging into the passport site from both the tabs. Then, close to 3 PM, you try book the appointment from both the tabs, the first tab will invariably hang/timeout, but then you will get through from the second tab. Apparently this is common knowledge available on certain internet sites.

However the experience inside the PSK isn't much better with I having to wait for about 1 hour 45 minutes inside after submitting the documents at the main counter.

Anurag

4 years ago

Unfortunately, this is the story for all centers. My sister is try to get an appointment in Ghaziabad center without any success. There agent is asking for INR 1500 and slots get over in 2 mins.

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