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SAT adjourns hearing on Sahara plea to 20th April

After the “preliminary hearing” today, the Securities and Appellate Tribunal posted the matter to 20th April as the counsel for Sahara Group sought adjournment due to medical reasons

The Securities Appellate Tribunal (SAT) today adjourned to 20th April its hearing on Subrata Roy's plea against market regulator Securities and Exchange Board of India’s (SEBI) attachment order of his bank accounts and other assets, along with those of two group firms and their top executives.

 

After taking up the petition for its “preliminary hearing”, the SAT posted the matter to 20th April as the counsel for Sahara Group sought adjournment due to medical reasons.

 

The matter relates to the case involving a refund of over Rs24,000 crore raised through “various illegalities” by two Sahara companies.

 

Four petitions have been filed against SEBI, namely by Sahara chief Subrata Roy himself, Sahara Housing Investment Corp (SHICL), Sahara India Real Estate Corp (SIRECL), and Ashok Roy Chaudhary and others.

 

The petitions have challenged SEBI's 13th February order attaching bank accounts, investments and other assets of the two companies and their four top executives, including Roy, to eventually sell them for recovering required funds for the investor refund as per a Supreme Court order.

 

Roy had first approached SAT against SEBI's attachment orders in February, followed by pleas filed by other entities.

 

The Tribunal last heard the matter on 26th March, when it decided to proceed further on all the petitions together.

 

Incidentally, SEBI passed another order in this case on 26th March, hours after SAT's last hearing of Sahara plea.

 

In its 26th March order, SEBI summoned Roy and three other top executives for personal appearance on 10th April after submitting details of their personal and company assets to ascertain terms for the sale of those assets.

 

Roy and others appeared before SEBI's whole-time member Prashant Saran at the market regulator's headquarters on 10th April, wherein they were asked about their asset details.

 

As per a Supreme Court order, SEBI has been asked to facilitate the refund of more than Rs24,000 crore to over three crore bondholders after verifying their genuineness.

 

After expiry of the court-set deadline for the refund, SEBI had issued attachment orders.

 

Sahara has questioned SEBI's action for attaching Roy's property, saying that neither he was issued a show-cause notice nor did SEBI follow procedure of securing an enabling order from a judicial magistrate.

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When will analysts be realistic in their expectations about Infosys?

In 5 out of 8 quarters, analysts have been horribly wrong about Infosys’ results, leading to a huge gap-down opening including today. What a huge fall for a company that once declared that "under-promise and over-deliver" was its strategy

 

Infosys shares fell by over 21% from Rs2,917 to Rs2,295 today, the biggest decline in 10 years. Infosys has forecast dollar revenue to grow between 6% and 10% for the fiscal year that began this month which was less than analysts' estimates for revenue growth of as much as 12%. This seemed like a nasty surprise to the market. But was it really a surprise? Let’s see what the analysts have been expecting Infosys to do and what it has actually done over the last eight quarters, including the just-concluded quarter.

 

Instance2: Q3FY13 – When the third quarter results were out on 11 January 2013 the stock jumped by nearly 17% from Rs2,320 to Rs2,712. Infosys’ net profit at Rs2,369 crore in the December quarter was flat against the September quarter, but much better than the average estimate of analysts. Revenues of Infosys had risen 12% in the quarter to Rs10,424 crore compared to a year earlier. That was better than analyst estimates of Rs9,860 crore. This was a rare instance of Infosys surprising the market positively.

 

Instance3: Q2FY13 – On 12 October 2012 when the second quarter results of Infosys were announced the stock price fell by 5% from Rs2,531 to Rs2,396. The fall was not much as the results were largely ‘in-line’ with the street estimates, though the IT major lowered its revenue growth guidance.

 

Instance4: Q1FY13 – Here again, the performance of Infosys was far below street estimates, the stock plummeted 8% from Rs2,466 to Rs2,265. The company cut its sales forecast to 5%, much lower than the 8%-10% it had predicted. The company had forecast FY13 earnings per share (EPS) at Rs166.50, which was lower than estimates. Kotak Institutional Equities summed up the disappointing results announcement of Infosys as "From bad to worse". Analysts on average were expecting Infosys to report a net profit of Rs2,448 crore on revenue of Rs9,665 crore. however, the IT giant could manage a net profit of Rs2,289 crore with revenue of Rs9,616 crore.

 

Instance5: Q4FY12 – The share price slumped by 13% from Rs2,750 to Rs2,403. Not only did its fourth quarter sales trail estimates, its sales forecast too missed analyst estimates. Its revenue guidance at the time came as a shocker to analysts who then downgraded the stock. Infosys announced a dollar revenue guidance of 8%-10%, which was much lower than industry body Nasscom’s estimate of 11%-14% for the industry.

 

Instance6: Q3FY12 – Though the 33% rise in profit for the quarter beat analyst estimates, its revenue guidance disappointed. The stock price fell by 8% from Rs2,826 to Rs2,589. The compa ny had forecast dollar revenue growth of 16.4% for the fiscal year to 31st March, down from 17%-19% projected in October 2011. Based on consensus estimates, the firm was expected to cut its dollar revenue target for the March quarter by 1%-2% compared with what it had estimated three months ago. Instead, it has cut its fourth quarter target by as much as 3%-7%.

 

Instance7: Q2FY12 – A rare instance, when the shares rose around 7% from Rs2,509 to Rs2,680 after it announced earnings for the second quarter of FY12. The company had cut its fiscal year 2011-12 (FY12) dollar revenue target by only 1%, on account of unfavourable cross currency movements. Analysts were enthused about the fact that the firm had kept its volume growth assumptions intact, despite the increased uncertainty in the global economy.

 

Instance8: Q1FY12 – Infosys revenues missed estimates and the share price fell by 4% from Rs2,919 to Rs2,794 and continued to head lower, even though net income increased 16% over the quarter which was in line with the median analyst estimate compiled by Bloomberg. This was just the beginning of the company’s woes. Wage inflation pulled down the net profit, on a sequential basis, by 5.3% to Rs1,722 crore while revenues grew 3.2% to Rs7,485 crore.

 

As all these cases show, analysts have been consistently way off the mark in estimating Infosys's results despite continuous interaction with the management. But this stunning saga not only shows the qualtity of analysts but also shows how things have changed at Infosys. There was a time when Infosys set the standards on corporate reporting in India. It was the first company to start reporting quarterly results much before it became mandatory. Also, for years, Infosys surprised the market with its conservative guidance and superlative actual results. It believed, in the words of founder NR Narayana Murthy, in the principle of under-promise and over-deliver. It is now the possibly the reverse: promise to naive analysts and under-deliver. 

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COMMENTS

CA PRADEEP AGARWAL

4 years ago

To be frank enough I do not agree to street expectations, makes a mockery of Democracy in Stock Market

CA PRADEEP AGARWAL

4 years ago

What I feel, greed has taken over so much that now it looks virtually impossible to turn your backs, unless something happens drastically, plus public has also lost confidence in Share Market especially after huge chunks of buying and selling thereby it is advisable that public go in for good MF's. Let the market for Fund Managers to slug it out.

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NSriramamurty

In Reply to CA PRADEEP AGARWAL 4 years ago

Greed and Fear is the Mantra leading Share Markets Ups & Downs.Both are to be Controlled while Playing in Stock Market.However, I do not agree that Putting your Monet in MFs is Best & Safe.Its Managaers also are like You & Me.As it is not their Money, They do not care if You Lose also.Actually- MFs & FIIs are Responsible for Markets Huge UPs & Downs, as their Trades are for Very Huge Amounts, impacting Share Prices Higly.If you are Careful on Your Portfolio, Controlling Fear & Greed, You can survive in Market,if not successful.

CA PRADEEP AGARWAL

In Reply to NSriramamurty 4 years ago

do agree but then to they have to show their performance to their bosses-Market buzz was that all MF's are good but HDFC scores on all.

Dayananda Kamath k

4 years ago

when the base is small you can show 30 to 40% growth regularly. after base has grown so big repeating the same rate of growth will be herqulean. and you can estimate anything and publish to protect your reputatation. but reality will be reality.downgrding a share for not reaching the expectation of anlysts and upgrading based on expectations of the anlysts rather than on fundamentals of results is the reason for manipulations of the share prices.

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CA PRADEEP AGARWAL

In Reply to Dayananda Kamath k 4 years ago

Do agree, but, the downside and Upside is huge in the market----means something fishy going there. As said before some media especially business media are the ones to blame because they hit twice when economy is bad, and second time by putting so high expectations that they cannot be fulfilled result DISTRESS SALE AND LOSSES

NN Balasubramanian

4 years ago

Mr. Narayanamurthy, Mr. Nandan, Mr Mohandas Pai have quit one by one exactly for this reason. They could foresee before hand the downslide of Infosys.

NN Bala

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CA PRADEEP AGARWAL

In Reply to NN Balasubramanian 4 years ago

feel Mohandas quit but it was for other reasons, Mr Murthy, and NANDAN had retired.

CA PRADEEP AGARWAL

In Reply to NN Balasubramanian 4 years ago

feel Mohandas quit but it was for other reasons, Mr Murthy, and NANDAN had retired.

manoharlalsharma

4 years ago

When enalysit be HOPLESS than only they come down,till hope no one come-down.
It's business is depend on fortunes neverending JOURNEY.

NSriramamurty

4 years ago

When Shares in Futures * Options fall 21% on Open, Its Buyers Holdings Long Positions in its Futures Simply Breaks Financially and suffer with Heart Attacks.SEBI is at Fault for prescribing Minimum Value of Rs Two Lakhs ,without any Maximum Value Limitfor a Lot.SEBI must Reduce Minmum Value Lot to Rs. One Lakh with Maximum of Rs. Three Lakhs,for the Survival of Investors/ Traders.SEBI could not do anything for Volatality ,except Collecting Volatility Margin Amount also,Sebi shall do this much.

CA PRADEEP AGARWAL

4 years ago

BUT THERE WAS ARTICLE THAT SILICON VALLEY PUSHING FOR 10,000 IT COMPANIES IN INDIA, WAS IT WRONG

SUNIL KUMAR HEMNANI

4 years ago

I guess we just have to accept Growth as we have come to expect of Infy is not going to be same. Lets understand in a world with a slow down and competition only increasing ,its just getting harder.Well the growth saga is not going to come back so easily as with all Big institutions its hard to adjust to a changing environment.NRN rightly got a lot of credit ,but lets accept there are a lot of smart people around with nimble orgs .They are hungry & agile ,great things happen with such companies .Lets just accept the new reality in the IT world

R Balakrishnan

4 years ago

We give too much credit to NRN. He was in the right place right time. And strange no body suspects why a company or how a company can meet estimates as close of 95 percent accuracy, when in real life they cant even predict the next seven days. Does it not smell of manipulation?
Replace ANALysts with coin tossing and the outcome will be no inferior

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CA PRADEEP AGARWAL

In Reply to R Balakrishnan 4 years ago

that is the only point, hell lot of speculation going on in stock market, will say media one of the biggest culprits.

CA PRADEEP AGARWAL

In Reply to CA PRADEEP AGARWAL 4 years ago

90% MEDIA IS IRRESPONSIBLE ONLY 10% CAN BE SAID AS RESPONSIBLE.

Suiketu Shah

In Reply to CA PRADEEP AGARWAL 4 years ago

This is why its best to ignore all the media and read only moneylife.Moist of the media is paid ads by wealth management companies who give reverse calls like buying Cipla or Arvind Ltd at sky high prices.

Nilesh KAMERKAR

In Reply to R Balakrishnan 4 years ago

Forget seven days sir, most would not even know what breakfast they themselves will have tomorrow morning.

CA PRADEEP AGARWAL

4 years ago

Infosys is going from bad to worse while TCS vice versa feel hell lot of back door manovering is going on in Infosys, in the last quarter the market increased expectations like never before and only to be thumped in this quarter, same happened some while back also, Do not know why speculators riding piggy backing and make mockery of SEBI/STOCK MARKET.

manoharlalsharma

4 years ago

Your 'q'? mark for INFOSYS is a sweet dream end with opening a rays of new version.

Raj

4 years ago

How come Infosys was able to deliver out of the world results in one quarter and the very opposite the next? I smell something fishy going on in Infosys, another Satyam perhaps?

R S Murthy

4 years ago

After all all analysts are human beings and not celestials. Did we not see the Race Course where horses are made to run for our pleassure? Have we not seen the bull fight? Are we in order to expect Sachin Tendulkar to play in the same style or rythem that he had one or two decades back? If one realises either he becomes practical or phylosohycal. Basic human nature is to enjoy at the expense of others. Analysts are no exception.

R S Murthy

4 years ago

After all all analysts are human beings and not celestials. Did we not see the Race Course where horses are made to run for our pleassure? Have we not seen the bull fight? Are we in order to expect Sachin Tendulkar to play in the same style or rythem that he had one or two decades back? If one realises either he becomes practical or phylosohycal. Basic human nature is to enjoy at the expense of others. Analysts are no exception.

NSriramamurty

4 years ago

Excellent Article enlighting Traders / Investors.Usuaaly Brokers / Traders accumulate Companies Shares, hoping Results would be Good and they can sell with Profit.This is a Good Eye Openers for all as Infy fell Open many times on Results.Lesson is to Sell on Pevious day eveing of Result Announcement Day.

RS Software reports muted results for the March quarter

RS Software’s March quarter results showed how dire global circumstances were but still managed to put in decent numbers

RS Software has reported consolidated revenues of  Rs76.08 crore for the quarter ended 31 March 2013, up by 8.17% year-on-year (y-o-y) from Rs70.46 crore in the corresponding period last fiscal. However, its net profit dipped only slightly by 1.74% y-o-y to Rs9.43 crore but was higher by 0.96% on a sequential basis.
 

Moneylife had earlier recommended RS Software at Rs67.30 but recommended investors to exit the stock at Rs173.50, with handsome profit of 158%. The original recommendation can be accessed here. It was the poster-boy of the dotcom boom but has since mended it ways and now it is putting a string of good performances.
 

According to Moneylife database, its net sales (on standalone basis) grew at 6% which is below its three-quarter yoy sales growth of 13%. The company’s market capitalisation is quoting at just 3.57 times its operating profit. Yet its return on networth is an astounding 42%.
 

On a yearly basis, according to the company’s statements, total export income for the year 2013 grew to Rs316.95 crore (from Rs261.86 crore) whereas domestic income stood at Rs1.21crore. These are impressive numbers given that much of the global economy has been jittery and almost its entire income is derived from exports. Its consolidated revenue for the 2012-2013 fiscal is Rs322.52 crore representing a growth of 22% from the corresponding year of the previous year. At the same time, its yearly net profit stood at Rs37.93 crore recording a growth of 31% over the corresponding previous year.  Total assets of the company for 2013 fiscal stood at 142.76 crore while it was 122.78 crore for the 2012 fiscal.
 

Commenting on the results, Raj Jain, MD & CEO, RS Software India said, “The growth in the need for solutions helped RS Software report attractive growth, evident from its consistent performance over the past few years. The payment processing ecosystem and industry is a $900 billion market in revenues and RS Software is attractively positioned to capitalise on this growing global opportunity. The share of electronic payments in non-cash payments in India have shown an upward trend with electronic payments by the end of the year 2011-12 constituting 91% in terms of value and 48% in terms of volume. We are a specialist in the payments business with over 20 years of experience, and will continue to report sustainable growth leveraging the opportunities both domestically and overseas”.
 

He further added, “With the e-commerce market in India having grown 34% on an average since 2005 and Tier I and Tier II cities contributing largely to the e-commerce revenue pie, it is an exciting time for all of us in the payment chain.
 

The board of directors of has proposed a dividend of 20 % in addition to interim dividend of 15% declared in January 2013, for every equity share, for the year ended on 31 March 2013.

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COMMENTS

Ramesh Poapt

4 years ago

Good one from ML.
Can ML give such reports for other companies when results are out during this month...?!

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