Banking
Personalization of banking: Woes of bank customers
Though the banks claim to be taking particular care of senior citizens, the ground reality conditions are far different
 
Hailing, as I do from the district of South Kanara, in Karnataka that gave birth to four of India’s oldest large public sector banks—Canara Bank, (Canara Banking) Corporation Bank, (Canara Industrial & Banking) Syndicate and Vijaya Bank, also at one time home to more than 22 smaller banks that were merged, I have had close family ties with the three Canaras, going up to their chairmen levels. Subsequently as the RBI (Reserve Bank of India) empanelled Statutory Auditor of Banks and now as an activist in assisting in addressing banking concerns of citizens, I can modestly claim to be the know of many of the banking woes bank customers face in their dealings with banks that have come to be an essential part of their lives—from kids to salary earners to pensioners and elders receiving funds from their NRI sons and daughters. 
 
In the good old days the friendly neighbourhood banks were the locally driven like Punjab National Bank (PNB) and Allahabad Bank in the North, UCO and United  in the East, Bank of Baroda, Bank of India, Central, Maharashtra and Union in the West and the three Canaras, Vijaya, Indian, Indian Overseas in the South—all that were all subsequently nationalized. There are privately owned banks like the South Indian, Federal, Dhanalaxmi, Catholic Syrian, Karur Vysya and Tamil Nadu Mercantile. Then, there is a plethora of co-operative banks such as the publicly held Mumbai-based Saraswat Co-operative, NKGSB, Shamrao Vittal and politicians-controlled State, District and local level co-operative banks. Many foreign banks beginning with the pre-Independence British—National & Grindlays, Mercantile, Barclays and Hong Kong & Shanghai, followed by the Americans also joined the Indian banking bandwagon. With the RBI opening up the banking sector large Indian financial institutions like ICICI, HDFC, IDBI, UTI and Kotak Mahindra have set up their own banking entities and now RBI has invited applications for more. 
 
Top on the list of customers’ grievances of over 13,000 received by the Banking Ombudsman in the last fiscal come deficient customer services. Quite a few from the elders which the banks choose to call “Senior Citizens”. Though the banks claim to be taking particular care of them, on ground reality conditions are far different. Elderly customers at the entrance have to stand before the opening time out in rain or sun, even after staff has come in. All that the banks can do for them is to make them sit inside till the counters open.  Security concerns are cited for not opening the shutters earlier. A few tottering senior citizens are certainly no security threat. Once the counters open these senior citizens need to be attended just before others. After all they want their pass books updated to check on their credits for in-coming pensions, remittances from children, cheques deposited, dividends and debits for ECS, standing instructions and to withdraw cash by those not E-savvy, that will take a few minutes to attend to.
 
Cash withdrawal has to be simplified as having a teller at the cash disbursements verifying the signature and ascertaining the balance before dishing out the cash at the same counter. Canara Bank follows this practice. Union Bank has the cumbersome requirement of the customer having to stand in queue at the pass book clerk to collect the token; the cheque then goes to an officer for signature and balance verification ultimately to the cashier. The pass book clerk in this bank performs the dual task of updating the pass books as well as issuing tokens and the elders have to keep waiting. Pass book printing machines are now installed in heavy savings based branches to mitigate this.  Other banks ought to implement such healthy practices that are working successfully. 
 
 The need of the hour is more of personalized banking services with a dedicated counter/window for senior citizens necessarily headed by an officer senior enough (not a fresher/youngster) as a special relationship manager. S/he should be capable of empathizing with the elders’ concerns and resolving them to their satisfaction. He should also be in a position to convince them well in time on the need for proper nomination and execution of wills to ensure seamless passing down of the estate to their heirs.
 
The beginning of the month pensioners’ rush at the counters can be mitigated by having designated counters for the first couple of days where only pensioners can be attended to expeditiously and at the same time ensure services to others too.  
 
The banks need to remind their pensioner-customers on phone or by SMS or email in February or early March to furnish their life certificates to ensure uninterrupted pensions credits.
 
One of the most irritating issues is the dysfunctional and unclean ATMs. Many a times frustrated customers are faced with “Unable to disburse” slips.  Common ostensible reasoning is that cash in the machine has run out, the printing roll exhausted, only high denomination currency notes dispensed, the inserted cards getting jammed or that the machine has its utility leading in frequent breakdowns. All this makes mockery of the ATM that of facilitating speedy withdrawal. The customers have to stand in a queue, collect tokens, some banks insist on pass books to issue withdrawal slip and proof of identity, waiting for the tellers’ call. Collecting smaller currency notes in exchange for the ATM dished out high value Rs500 currency notes also results in having to wait again in a queue at the cashier counter.   
 
Few private banks bend backwards to service only High Net worth Individuals (HNIs) and more particularly the Ultra High Net worth Individuals (UHNIs) by picking up their cash and cheque deposits from and deliver cash and other instruments at their doorsteps. There is no reason why this facility is not extended to senior citizens by all as well, on specific request of course. This will save them visits to the branches and waiting in queues just for updating their pass books, to deposit instruments and withdraw cash. After all many invariably maintain substantial balances in savings and term deposits to meet their emergency needs. 
 
Some foreign banks follow the obnoxious practice of levying atrocious charges on customers visiting their branches and ask them to deal with the call centres to avoid interfacing with customers in public over ticklish grievances in public in the branch lobbies. Nothing can be worse for a customer than dealing with an anonymous girl’s taped voice in a BPO:  “Dial 1 for English, 2 for Savings” going on into infinity till your patience, time and anger run out and the operator tells you “The complaint will be attended to in due course.”  
 
The other perennial problem faced by senior citizens is the lack of uniformity in the tedious issue of Tax Deductions at Source/TDS on the interest credits. The branches ought to hand over the “No tax deduction request” forms religiously in March each year to make them effective from the following accounting year essentially for monthly credits from April onwards. The declarations should be collected and earmarked. The gross interest earned has to be first credited and the tax deducted debited at the same time. This helps match the interest income and TDS facilitating advance tax computations. The practice of some banks just crediting the amount net of tax is not only harassing makes verification of interest credits difficult. Banks overlooking to deduct tax go to the extent of deducting 100% on noticing the error; this is not permitted by the taxation laws.  
 
By way of a memorandum from Moneylife to the finance minister and the governor of the RBI on this matter we have made submissions to do away with the TDS on the same lines as dividends; adding that this be considered in the Direct Taxes Code Bill. 
 
The recent trend at moving into area wholly unrelated to banking like selling mutual fund (MF) and insurance products is not advisable from the core banking activity of mobilizing deposits and effectively monitoring advances well in time before they go bad. Bank staff, in trying to provide One Stop Money Mall, is certainly not positioned to render personalized follow up services. They may market MF schemes or insurance policies by parroting the usual marketing clichés; owing to constant transfers they will not be around to service the products that they have sold—redemption of the MF units or handling insurance claims. They sell but they are simply not geared or trained in after sale services.  Fortunately the RBI and IRDA have woken up, post the Cobrapost exposé.
 
The other sore point is the vast differences in the charges levied by private banks in the name of better services. To pull up their CASA (Current and Savings Accounts) outreach banks like IDBI have done away with the levy of all charges, while others continue to levy heavy charges for fall in minimum balances, cheque dishonors, issue and cancellation of demand drafts and pay orders, verification of signatures, reissue of PIN or password, standing instructions, immediate issue of cheque books as also additional cheque books, stop payment instructions, duplicate account statements/pass books, dormant accounts, closing of accounts within six months and Demat charges; all the while insisting on five-figure minimum balance requirements. They blame the computers or back offices that are programmed to generate the levy automatically without human intervention. The RBI should come out with a reasonable charges schedule indicating a range.
 
Deregulation of savings bank interest has resulted in a rate war. Only today Yes Bank announced its hike to 7%. But its fine print says: “For deposits over Rs1 lakh”.  Dhanlaxmi, Allahabad and SBH have marginally increased interest on NRE rupee term deposits of various tenors. Higher interest earnings on savings account can translate into meaningful gains only if the amounts idling in the saving account exceed the six digit mark. This is gross mis-selling and it needs to be nipped in the bud.  
 
Banks can render greater services for customers exclusively banking at a single location by assisting them in collating all their deposits and withdrawals to help compile their tax returns. After all, when all the transactions are routed through the same branch it should not be difficult. Of course this should come at a reasonable charge. 
 
The Business Line had a front page report—“RBI flags deteriorating loan portfolios of Banks – NPAs outpace credit growth; rising risks for banking sector”. This certainly is a matter of concern for the common man as it is his deposits that go into the amounts advanced by his bank. Unlike the West, today our banking system, monitored by the RBI is quite robust, not to go the Lehman Brothers and others’ way.
 
But we should not take things for granted. We have had the Global Trust Bank go bust. Well-monitored advances with prompt action of delayed submission of securities statements, regular physical verification of securities and obtaining of returns can mitigate bad debts and non-performing assets, which certainly take time to incubate and can be curbed if acted upon in time.
 
The Indian banking system, effectively regulated by the RBI, has stood the test of time, even as there were crisis earlier in other emerging economies in the US, Eurozone, Cyprus, Greece, Far East, Mexico and Argentina. 
 
 It is not surprising that most NRIs/PIO in the West now find Indian banks safer to park their funds than trust those back there. Very rightly so – East or West, Home is the best – even when it comes to personal banking!
 
(Nagesh Kini is a Mumbai-based chartered accountant and former bank statutory auditor on the RBI panel is now turned activist. He had made senior citizen-specific suggestions to the RBI-appointed Damodaran Committee on Banking Services, two of which find a place in the final recommendations.)
 

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Gopalakrishnan T V

4 years ago

It is now Customers' service to banks by providing deposits and running after them to get some attention and that too after agreeing to pay a fees for any service.Only a handful banks and that too in Private sector has enhanced SB rate of SBinterest, where as PSU banks have not even thought about it.To get TDS one has to repeatedly call on banks and even if they have all the details of Customers including e mail they never care to send the TDS as soon as the certificates are ready. Personally I had to close my FD accounts just for the reason that the bank failed to send me the TDS despite my personal visit and request by post as I was away on an assignment in a different locality. I addressed a letter to the RM of the bank in the matter and he apologised for that incident and unlike in the past the bank staff have no sensitiveness to lose the deposit and business. Since there are no alternatives to save money with safety and liquidity people particularly senior Citizens go to banks ignoring the negative rate of return and other irritants. KYC ie either kill your Customer or Know your Contacts in the bank again keep away the prospective customers is the ground reality. It is for the banks to know the customers and the insistence on that by the regulator is something unacceptable for a major chunk of customers. All are not having illegal money and money laundering activities.Not even a percentage of customers come under suspicion and for that all to be treated under suspicious character is not fair and irritating the customers. The banks should monitor the transactions and assess the customer for his suspicious conducts. The charm of having a bank account and dealing with the banks has been given a go bye and now it has become a necessity to survive and for that the customers have to necessarily put up with all sorts of harassment and inconveniences.

arun adalja

4 years ago

very good analysis and eye opening for rbi if they read it.in most of cases rbi always favours banks telling that they have to survive so they can charge whatever they think ok.but service part no improvement.keep it up.

nagesh kini

4 years ago

Both Vaidya Vasudeo and Hema have raised vital issues.
The net credit is a strict no-no. There has to be debit for the amount of the interest and a debit for TDS. We had represented to the RBI and there are RBI Directions to that effect.
I suggest you demand copies of bank advices affecting your accounts. Every entry has to be supported by a valid document, even when it is entered into the computer system. It may not take the same old format, it remains.
In Hema's case - The high- handedness of the Bank Manager needs to be taken up at higher levels from Regional to the Central Grievances Committee of the Bank, then to the Ombudsman and possibly to the Customers Service Dept. of the RBI.

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nagesh kini

In Reply to nagesh kini 4 years ago

A correction in the second line - there has to be a CREDIT entry for the interest.

RAVINDRANATH

4 years ago

Nicely articulated.

Some years back I had gone to encash some travellers cheques at Banco do Brasil in Brasilia, the capital city of Brazil. We were a tad early and had to wait outside in a queue. I saw another queue was forming a little away. Upon enquiring, my friend from the Indian Embassy informed me that the separate queue was for the senior citizens, who would be let in first once the doors opened so that they get priority in the various counters.

RAVINDRANATH

4 years ago

Nicely articulated.

Some years back I had gone to encash some travellers cheques at Banco do Brasil in Brasilia, the capital city of Brazil. We were a tad early and had to wait outside in a queue. I saw another queue was forming a little away. Upon enquring, my friend from the India Embassy informed me that there was a separate queue for senior citizens, who would be let in first once the doors opened so that they get priority in the various counters.

Vaidya Dattatraya Vasudeo

4 years ago

This is particularly with reference to interest on deposits. In SBI, I regularly give my 15H form before 15th April each year. My first quarterly interest becomes due after that. Still bank will deduct tax at source for the first quarter and credit it afterwards. While I was working in bank, we had to credit any amount as it is ( No TDS at that time, but the postage and collection charges ) and debit the charges and simultaneously issue an advice, which helped customers to know precisely what has happened. One more amusing fact with SBI is that it credited my interest with net amount to one account and afterwards reversed the deduction to another account. Banks have long ago stopped system of sending advice. RBI must make it compulsory that any debit or credit to any account, which is not generated by the customer, Bank MUST send the advice of this on the same day. So is the case of cheques deposited and returned. With the emails, it virtually does not cost anything. It should also be made compulsory that whenever it involves credit and debit, Banks must show the gross entries separately. Will RBI take note of it.

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T Sekhar

In Reply to Vaidya Dattatraya Vasudeo 4 years ago

RBI should make it mandatory for all Banks to send SMS by way of advice of credit or debit to all SB account customers, for every debit or credit not initiated by the customer. Especially, an SMS of TDS debit should be made mandatory for all Banks.

Banks used to earlier spend for an envelope, an advice, stamps etc. for one advice, costing Re 1/- to Rs. 5/-. Can't they spend some paise for an SMS now instead? And the system is so automated that no extra staff are also needed for sending such SMSs, except may be 1 or 2 for the whole Bank at the operational level.

Also, Banks nowadays offer so many services through their ATMs like NEFT or RTGS, recharging of Mobile, Ticketing, payment of Credit Card Dues or Utility Payments etc, But the ATM does not display the charge that is going to be debited to the account for availing such service. Hence Banks should also display such charges in the same ATM screen or in the Internet Banking screen every time a service screen pops up, so that the customer can make an informed decision to either avail the service or not.


- T Sekhar, Retired AGM of Bank of India.

HEMA SAMPAT

4 years ago

Woes of bank customers:
There are nationalized banks in Mumbai whose managers are hand in gloves with the eldest son in the HUF A/C.As per the rules all the co-parceners have to give consent to make the eldest son as the Karta after the father's death.But the managers of reputed banks have not taken signatures of all the co-parecners & allowed the eldest son to be the Karta.The managers refuse to co-operate or give proper information to the other co-parcener who is also a legal heir.I know of more than one bank.I request Money Life & Mr.Nagesh Kini to look into such issues & woes of customers.after the death the father's hard earned money does not reach to all his sons.Bank managers are responsible for this .They break the rules ,suppress the information & even try to suppress the information seeker though he is the legal heir.Even RBI is silent on such issues.There are no checks on such managers.Even the higher authority & the legal department try to suppress the information seeker & no justice is given to the victim of HUF A/C.Bankers' Association also ask the victim to go to the same bank from where he had got no justice.There may be many more victims not getting justice & the father's money do not reach to all his sons.His wish remains unfulfilled.Action should be taken on such managers who manage the money,break the rules& break the heart of the customers.Sr.citizens should be aware of such techniques used by banks .

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Shashibhushan Gokhale

4 years ago

They enabled SMS Alerts saying it is free. Now they are keeping them enabled and have started charging unless we explicitly opt out?

I think there are rules from TRAI for mobile companies that they cannot activate packs on prepaid customers assuming implicit approval, subject to explicit deactivation by customers. Isn't there something like this for banks?

Will the RBI now listen to the FM and ask banks not to sell gold?

“I think the RBI has told banks not to sell gold coins,” the finance minister P Chidambaram told a news agency. Well, gold sales from banks are small and will not help in reducing gold imports or lowering CAD. However, consumers will benefit from not buying gold from banks

There is a new twist to the story of banks selling gold coins. According to a Reuters report, finance minister P Chidambaram said, “I think the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) has advised banks that they should not sell gold coins”. Earlier, the RBI had refused to ban sale of gold coins by banks, citing that it wants to encourage ‘genuine’ investment in the commodity. While the FM is trying to contain gold imports in order to rein in current account deficit, from our perspective, stopping banks from selling gold coins is in the interest of the customer.
 

What happens when you buy gold coins from a bank? You end up losing twice. One, banks sell gold coins at a higher price than the jeweller and when you want to sell the same coin, they can’t buy it back, thus leaving you at the mercy of the local jeweller. The jeweller would readily buy the gold coin, unlike the bank, but would deduct the regular 2% cut. So you would shell out more money for buying gold coins from a bank but would have to suffer loss while selling it to a jeweller.  For more details read

The reason for this leniency about gold sales by banks is that RBI wants investors to ‘genuinely’ buy gold rather than buy financial gold vis-a-vis gold ETFs and gold mutual funds and such. Last week, RBI governor D Subbarao said that the route of buying gold for genuinely saving should be available to the people, while emphasising that investment in the financial sector is good for the economy. 
 

The RBI had earlier said that specially minted gold coins sold by banks might not be in the nature of bullion or primary gold, there would be no objection to the bank granting loans against these coins. Yet, by allowing banks to continue gold coin sale, it is exacerbating the current account deficit (CAD) deficit further.
 

The decision to restrict or stop gold coin sales comes after India had imported a whopping 162 tonnes of gold in May 2013, instilling fears that CAD will worsen and be uncontrollable. To cull demand, the government raised import duty of gold by 2%, from 6% to 8%, a second such hike in six months.
 

The price of gold on MCX has declined by 13% since December 2012, to Rs27,905 per 10 grams, making it an attractive proposition for consumers to buy jewellery and coins. But little do consumers know that buying gold is fraught with risks, especially when bought from banks in form of gold coins.
 

A gold coin of 2 grams from Bank of Baroda costs Rs5,860 as of 30 May. The same thing from a jeweller was priced at Rs5,028, about 16% less than what the bank had quoted.

It is not that RBI allows banks to sell at premium but also made the process for consumers to walk into any bank and buy gold easily. Some banks require KYC and some do not. We also had written this in detail over here: Gold sales by banks: High and inconsistent rates and different KYC rules. The idea of walking to a bank and buying gold without proof is ridiculous as it also permits money laundering in form of gold.

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Dayananda Kamath k

4 years ago

even banks does not listen to rbi then how rbi can listen to fm.rbi has long back asked banks to discontinue selling of gold coins but they are continuing selling in the pretext of stocks held. whether they have checked how it is being implemented. what action they have taken. 10 years back banks were allowing illegal by opening letters of credits just based on the letter from the nominated agencies and tons of gold has been imported. even dgft has not bothered to check it when it gave clarification to one of the banks that this transaction will negate the very purpose of the policy itself. and allowed imports rbi banned it after 5 years of audit reports in this regard.even collected data on these transactions but did not act on the data obtained. whom are they protecting. and allowing the country t bleed.

PRABAL BISWAS

4 years ago

Does any body listen?

arun adalja

4 years ago

let us do our own job instead of doing faltu job of others.if you are efficient then it is ok but you are not giving proper services to your clients so please do your job only.

nagesh kini

4 years ago

Thank God the RBI and MOF have at long last awoken to the reality. They are locking the stable after the horse has bolted!
In a gold-crazy country like India where gold smuggling is rampant, now MOF raising the import duty and RBI stopping banks from selling gold are both irrelevant.
In the first place permitting banks to sell gold and advancing there against were uncalled for.
Even the fall in the global prices didn't stop our people, on the contrary they went on a buying spree.
There is more than gold in resolving the seriously deteriorating CAD bomb expecting to blow up any moment.
India's private gold holding with individuals and temples, churches, gurudwaras,agriaries and mosques is said to exceed all that is lying at Fort Knox,USA, Bank Of England and Swiss Banks put together.
The inventorizing at Lord Padmanabswamy Temple at Thruvanthapuram is still not complete!

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Aegi Murali Kumar

In Reply to nagesh kini 4 years ago

GOLD rate will increase many fold when US dollar will crash. They are printing money like crazy.

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