Citizens' Issues
HC asks BCCI to reply over non-payment of IPL dues

A division bench headed by Justice DD Sinha got irked by the BCCI and state government's failure to file their reply to the PIL and directed them to file it within two weeks

 
Mumbai: The Bombay High Court on Wednesday rapped the Maharashtra government and Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI), for failing to reply to a public interest litigation (PIL) regarding non-payment of over Rs5 crore to the police for security provided for Indian Premier League (IPL) matches played in Navi Mumbai's DY Patil stadium in the previous seasons, reports PTI.
 
A division bench headed by Justice DD Sinha today got irked by the BCCI and state government's failure to file their reply to the PIL which was filed in April this year.
 
"On every hearing, time is sought to file reply but it is never filed. This is the last chance we are giving. If reply is not filed within two weeks then we will hear the petition and decide it on merits," Justice Sinha said.
 
The bench has directed BCCI and the state government to file its reply within two weeks.
 
The PIL filed by one Santosh Pachlag claims that BCCI owes Rs5.2 crore to Navi Mumbai police. "During the 2010 edition, six matches were held at the DY Patil stadium between 12th March and 25th April. In all, 3,345 police personnel were deployed at the stadium. As Navi Mumbai police was short-staffed, personnel from Pune and Satara districts were also deployed," the PIL claims.
 
The petition seeks direction to the police to recover the arrears. "Navi Mumbai police, on 8 November 2010, sent a bill of Rs5.65 crore to BCCI. However the cricket body paid only Rs47.53 lakh stating that it had paid the Nagpur police only this much and hence would not pay more," the petition claims.
 
It further alleges that the deputy commissioner of police of Navi Mumbai had till May 2011 written letters to BCCI seeking payment of the arrears, but in vain. "After that even the police have kept quiet and not taken any steps for recovery of the arrears," the petition states.
 

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Ratan Tata wants copy of probe report into Radia tapes

The SC bench asked on how the Tata group chief can seek a copy of the report as the petition filed by him had only sought an inquiry into the leakage of the tape

 
New Delhi: Tata Group Chairman Ratan Tata on Wednesday faced some questions in the Supreme Court on his petition seeking a direction to the Centre for disclosure of the inquiry report into the leakage of controversial tapes containing conversations of former corporate lobbyist Niira Radia with him and others, reports PTI.
 
A bench of justices GS Singhvi and SJ Mukhopadhaya asked on how he can seek a copy of the report as the petition filed by him had only sought an inquiry into the leakage of the tape which has been done by the Centre.
 
"You are enlarging your prayer by filing application seeking contents of the probe report," the bench said adding that "government is itself making an inquiry and the report will be placed before us." 
 
Senior advocate Mukul Rohatgi, appearing for Tata, however, submitted that it was necessary to see the findings of the report as his entire arguments will be based on it.
 
"My entire arguments will be on the basis of the report. It is clear that there is leakage of conversation tapped by the government but it is not clear which agency or officials are responsible for it. It is necessary to know how it was done to prevent such leakage in future," Rohatgi said.
 
He said the intercepted phone calls were a property of the government and its disclosure was violation of his right to privacy.
 
"I am entitled to know how it was leaked. I am not interested in claiming damages. I want to ensure that such lackadaisical approach should not be taken by the government in future," he said.
 
The bench, however, observed that the government has already taken action and if there is a breach of law then it will seek a response from the government.
 
The arguments remained inconclusive and will resume tomorrow.
 
Tata had moved the apex court on 29 November 2010, seeking action against those involved in the leakage of the tapes alleging the leakage amounts to infringement of his fundamental right to life, which includes right to privacy under Article 21 of the Constitution.
 

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Alphonse Selvaraj

4 years ago

I think that not only Tatas but we all the right to know the details of the report.Since it is a public record, any one interested can get that through RTI request.

Telecom companies in the red; and your payment blues...

Have you ever been sent round the bend by a telecom company, which has not updated your payments, and are you in danger of losing it?


Revenues and profits in the private telecom companies are headed in only one direction—down. As a result, it appears as though all sorts of methods are being used by the telecom companies to increase revenues and reduce costs, which in turn impact mostly the customer. Despite high decibel ad campaigns which appear to send out mixed messages, often vapid, none of them appear to remotely ever mention accountability. Consider the following ads you may have seen:

 

# Jo tera hai voh mera hai, jo mera hai voh bhee mera hai

# Cheating at carrom or promises on birthdays

# Make an aged man of a virile young actor

# Post-paid or pre-paid, what an idea?

#And many more equally inane campaigns...

 

How do these high-cost ad campaigns in any way address the real issue—to the point that there appears to be some sort of attempt across levels by all telecom companies to try and squeeze as much as possible from customers.

 

In addition to increasingly frequent complaints of lack of accountability in both pre-paid and post-paid connections, both voice and data, is a new one that appears to have kicked in with great gusto lately (particularly post-paid). This is what could be called the “don’t update customer’s payment records” method of increasing revenue. Typically, the strategy appears

to be to tire customers out, and with the increasing ease of using online and plastic payment options, get ready to be sent round and round by the usual call-centre and customer service support mechanism, for something which should not have gone wrong in the first place.

 

This is how it goes:

 

When you pay by plastic, online or by person, the transaction has well and truly been co-linked to the specific customer number, the phone number, and the specific amount of money received between you and the telecom company. These are, in turn, linked with a specific transaction reference number generated by the telecom company. In effect, transaction reference number ONE.

 

There is, however, in addition, another transaction number linking you and the telecom company to the bank, the credit/debit card company, as well as the payment processor. Obviously, the bank, card company and payment processor do not know which specific phone number the amount is for, unless there is a separate three-way mandate. This is transaction reference number TWO.

 

The most dangerous thing you can do, be assured, is to blindly sign mandates making what are essentially two separate two-way transactions, into a three-way contract. The telecom company will try to lock you into an auto-debit contract, please stay well clear and far away from such potentially dangerous situations. You will need to make sure that each bill and each payment is a separate series of the two transactions shown above—and here’s one example why:

 

1) An online payment of Rs750 was made sometime in the third week of June 2012, and all acknowledgements as well as both transaction reference numbers were generated. Confirmations from the telecom company, by email and SMS, and likewise by the credit card company, were also received.

 

2) However, the customer profile on the telecom company's website did not reflect the credit to account of this payment, and it vanished somewhere. When this happens, you are supposed to contact the telecom company’s customer care centre by phone or online. As expected, they were totally unhelpful, meanwhile the due date kept getting closer.

 

3) Once you cross the due date, the telecom companies have you in their grip, and all sorts of other charges start getting levied. If you have an automatic mandate, they will shamelessly debit your account, even though it is their fault.

 

4) In addition, this sort of disputed payment starts showing up as ‘unpaid’ and destroys your credit rating, which is another aspect altogether.

 

How to fix this?

 

The telecom customer service people do not have access to the transaction numbers generated by the credit/debit card company for you, which typically shows up on your bank/card statement in the next cycle, and is also mentioned in the email from the credit card company. So what the telecom company people do is, instead of running an internal trace of the lost money on their own telecom reference number or phone number, they ask you to provide a copy of your card or bank statement. This is now even more dangerous.

 

Once you do provide these details, which in itself is a risk, the telecom call centre knows how to continue to make you go round and round till you give up. Interim, the core issue, the money that vanished, never gets resolved. It is important to remember here—money paid through the payment processing/plastic money industry never vanishes. It gets diverted, by fraudulent means, to either the corporate itself or to other entities along the way. This is not some conspiracy theory; I have worked in this industry and know the mindset.

 

Typically, how much time, energy and money will the average customer spend to chase a figure like, say, Rs750, with added penalties rocking the horizon some more? That's the key.

 

So what’s the solution?

 

1) Make an additional payment, of a similar amount, but slightly different. That way the telecom company will not attempt to confuse matters more by trying to shuffle both payments. Nor will they threaten to disconnect. So, if the outstanding was Rs750 and you paid Rs750 the first time around (which vanished...) then make a cover payment of Rs755 or something like that.

 

2) Give the telecom company the reference number generated by your credit/debut card company, as well as the time & date, which proves that the money did go to the telecom company. Do NOT give them a copy of your bank/card statement.

 

3) Separately, start a correspondence with your credit card/debit card/bank that the product or service for said payment was not delivered to you by the telecom company and that you want a chargeback for the bank/card company provided transaction number. Quote both transaction numbers in this correspondence.

 

4) Mark the telecom company in copy to the message to your card company/bank. And generate some more complaint reference numbers at the telecom company, so that your issue goes on auto-escalate.

 

After that, sit back and watch the fun, as well as the solution. No telecom provider wants to have too many complaints of non-delivery of a product or service against them. Fact is too many such complaints of non-delivery of product or service can majorly impact the credibility and track record of the merchant-the telecom company. And this becomes even more serious when they do not update their records despite providing enough evidence of details of both reference numbers.

 

Thumb rules—beyond a point don’t waste your time with the merchant/telecom company. Instead, just demand a charge back from the credit card company. You’ve already made a covering payment, remember? And go for number portability.

 

If you’ve paid by plastic, then the strong weapon of demanding a charge-back is your birth-right. Just don’t blindly sign mandates please. Ensure each payment is a separate transaction authorised by you, online or through charge-slip, with safety.

 

What happens when telecom companies are unreasonable on account of payments made by cash, and start demanding so-called outstandings sometimes going back 2-3 years or more? Or what happens when they over-bill, or even bill for services not provided—like many people complain about lately, especially on data plans?

 

Here, unless you have secured all cash receipts, you might well be out on a limb. The only way here is to keep an eagle eye out on whether they are updating their records or not, and insisting on paper invoices delivered to your address. There are also statute of limitations issues, but these tend to not work in favour of the customer, so please try and avoid paying by cash.

 

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COMMENTS

Vikas

4 years ago

Nicely put.
I do not understand why we are forced to pay with our time and money for the problem at the service provider's end.
I had a really bad experience with Tata Docomo call center. Though you can easily reach them (for free, when I last checked) but they are UNABLE to help you at all - one guy simply told me that I am wasting my time talking to him and he won't be able to do anything for me :)
Airtel, though paid (I wish some regulator could penalize them for having us paying for talking to their executives), has been able to resolve all my issues.

Sorry, could not understand your statement:
1) Make an additional payment, of a similar amount, but slightly different.

Could you please let me know what do you mean by "similar amount, but slightly different" ? Different in which aspect ?

Thanks again, keep writing.

TIHARwale

4 years ago

the latest position is now Airtel has allotted the No 9958337200 to some body during last week and Airtel is not replying over mail w.r.t. my complaint/claim because i had provided irrefutable proof. Airtel is a cheat my complaint ref is PR071500215 and they have updated their website with complaint resolved. WHAT THEY HAVE RESOLVED.


To: [email protected]
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Cc: [email protected]>
[email protected],[email protected]
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Subject: 9958337200
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fine. my father is using Delhi No.9958337200 since June 2007. since he stays at
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Delhi and Bangalore alternatively whenever he stays at Bangalore he doesnot use
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this No on reaching Bangalore. Last time he landed up at Bangalore on March 29,
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2012 and stopped using this number and yesterday night i had recharged this No for
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Rs 200/- made payment to Airtel using net banking facility of CBI from A/c No
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1171379732. recharge successful was conveyed over SMS in No 9958337200 with
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validity upto 25.09.2013. which implied the connection was valid and functioning
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yesterday but today morning when he was at Bangalore Airport on the way to Delhi
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he found "no network coverage". Now he is back in Delhi and on hearing this i
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logged a complaint with Airtel ( funny that to log this complaint Airtel charged
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me ) using my No 9958229345 and the Customer care executive could not do anything
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to resolve the issue. Later i received a SMS from Customer Care Manager with Ref
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No CWBAR20715056236 registered on 15.07.2012 at 16.04 hours in my mobile
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9958229345. treat this complaint as unresolved
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The position is that you have allowed me to recharge in 9958337200 and
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subsequently blocked the account which has been in use till yesterday night
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because had received recharge confirmation yesterday night in 9958337200. so
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activate the No 9958337200 without further delay by 5.00PM tomorrow or else i will
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be constrain to approach Consumer forum, TRAI etc as this is a breach of trust and
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nothing short of a fit case 420

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