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Doctors who study pharmacology can practice allopathy in Maharashtra

Unani, homeopathy and others doctors should study pharmacology for a full year course and after clearing the exams, they will be allowed to practice alopathy in Maharashtra

Mumbai: Maharashtra government on Friday told the Legislative Assembly that doctors wanting to practice allopathy should study pharmacology subject and an ordinance to this effect will be promulgated next month, reports PTI.

Replying to a calling attention notice on the issue of demand of homeopathic doctors to practice allopathy since there is shortage of allopathic doctors in rural areas, state Medical Education Minister Vijay Kumar Gavit said it was not possible legally to allow medicos to practice a medicine which they have not studied.

"Unani, homeopathy and others doctors wishing to practice allopathy should study pharmacology. It will be a full course of one year and they will be allowed to practice only after they clear the examination," the minister said.

Accordingly, Maharashtra Medical Practitioners Act, 1961 will be amended.

He said the Homeopathy Council in Delhi has been requested to include the subject of pharmacology in the homeopathy curriculum.

Nana Patole, Kushal Bopche, Sanjay Kute (all BJP) said ayurvedic doctors are allowed to practice allopathy in primary health care centres, to which the minister said there is an optional subject of pharmacology in ayurvedic syllabus.

"Those who have studied pharmacology can practice allopathy," he said.

BJP legislator Girish Mahajan said there is an acute shortage of allopathic doctors in rural areas.

Vijay Waddetiwar (Cong) said homeopathic doctors in rural areas treat patients in remote areas and save lives but still have to face legal problems because they are not allowed to practice allopathy.

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Bhagavan ps

4 years ago

I went through all the comments under this issue. The issue has derailed in most of the comments.
Quote: Replying to a calling attention notice on the issue of demand of homeopathic doctors to practice allopathy since there is shortage of allopathic doctors in rural areas, state Medical Education Minister Vijay Kumar Gavit said it was not possible legally to allow medicos to practice a medicine which they have not studied.

"Unani, homeopathy and others doctors wishing to practice allopathy should study pharmacology. It will be a full course of one year and they will be allowed to practice only after they clear the examination," the minister said."

Unquote: The real issue in question is 'Study of pharmacology' being considered a must to practice medicine. Which pharmacology? Alopathic /Ayurvedic / Unani ? I take it that the minister meant Allopathic pharmacology.

Well. let us not oversimplify the already too much simplified medical practice.

Medical practice in India is a reign-less reckless practice with absolutely no accountability on any one at any level. This is one typical profession in science where the practitioners don't relish any control, regulation and least of all any logic for their action.
The educationists, students and latter the service providers have all only one common issue in mind ie: Moneylife and life full of money! Such being the case the Govt should come out with a system to control and regulate the quality of all the professionals that includes Doctors in all the system of medicine, Nurses, Pharmacists by making it a mandatory to score some minimum credits before renewing their registration.? This will set a trend where every professional will not have time for anything except for updation of their skill and knowledge. This will in turn benefit the public and patients at large.

Bhagavan ps

4 years ago

Then please allow pharmacy, nursing, physiotherapy (as orthopedics) to study pharmacology to practice medicine. They are million times better than ward boy-surgeons. Allow PharmD graduates to practice medicine, as their patho-physiology knowledge and depth of drug and pharmacology knowledge is quite superior.

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Kunal Kale

In Reply to Bhagavan ps 4 years ago

I think following points should be considered.

1. BAMS is 100% integrated course to pass. if not prove it. Consider question paper or syllabus to oral exam.

2. If there is a problem about Prescribing medicine then consider this.
a. say Ayurvedic practitioner to go without antibiotic in emergency.
b. say Allopathic practitioner to practice without serpentine in HTN.

More than 87% of modern drugs are modified stage of traditional medicine only considered antibiotics are new drugs not mentioned by any means in tradition system. And More than 94% of Traditional medicine practitioner is using simply modified old drugs.

See what is basic these people are using resources to treat people for better life. but the people related with this decision cannot be considered human, because they are challenging the basics of life that you are what we say.

If you become one degree holder you could not have another (With respect to courts judgement does this is freedom given?). It doesn’t matter you have better skill than previous.

Does it means ones you are Idiot always Idiot.

Really these are not human being to consider just kept away these people from govt. system, otherwise, next day they will say the Law graduate could not be considered for MLA, and, if it is so, and previously listened, then think how many parliamentary member will go home. And still, if you don’t get it considered. You are proving rejection of science. and humanity of yours.

As I believe every human Being could be act as Doctor if Knowledge with appropriate training is given by a body approved by law.

MBBS is not actually that.

Frankly MBBS is pressure of World Bank with WHO to “fund” “India” passed in Govt. misused by MBBS or supporter. So it is not the war of knowledge or actual relief to the patient.

It is the war of Pharmacy preparing products issuing knowledge and not taking responsibilities of safety to keep their brand safe.

So in my opinion professional of health care should not allow to make private practice. He must be bound to follow govt. service.

Otherwise the Indians will go without health care. china will have more than 3/4 share (WHO 2012 report) for his traditional medicine. and you will see Chinese medical practitioner and Indian will attain it. As well as Chinese Pharmacy making drugs in India.

I hope you can understand if you are a Indian.

and not MBBS/BAMS/BHMS/BUMS.

And off course I expect comments against it. Definitely that will be cry of MBBS this is mine and not humans

Kunal Kale

In Reply to Bhagavan ps 4 years ago

I think following points should be considered.
1. BAMS is 100% integrated course to pass. if not prove it. Consider question paper or syllabus to oral exam.
2. If there is a problem about Prescribing medicine then consider this.
a. say Ayurvedic practitioner to go without antibiotic in emergency.
b. say Allopathic practitioner to practice without serpentine in HTN.
More than 87% of modern drugs are modified stage of traditional medicine only considered antibiotics are new drugs not mentioned by any means in tradition system. And More than 94% of Traditional medicine practitioner is using simply modified old drugs.
See what is basic these people are using resources to treat people for better life. but the people related with this decision cannot be considered human, because they are challenging the basics of life that you are what we say.
If you become one degree holder you could not have another (With respect to courts judgement does this is freedom given?). It doesn’t matter you have better skill than previous.
Does it means ones you are Idiot always Idiot.
Really these are not human being to consider just kept away these people from govt. system, otherwise, next day they will say the Law graduate could not be considered for MLA, and, if it is so, and previously listened, then think how many parliamentary member will go home. And still, if you don’t get it considered. You are proving rejection of science. and humanity of yours.
As I believe every human Being could be act as Doctor if Knowledge with appropriate training is given by a body approved by law.
MBBS is not actually that.
Frankly MBBS is pressure of World Bank with WHO to “fund” “India” passed in Govt. misused by MBBS or supporter. So it is not the war of knowledge or actual relief to the patient.
It is the war of Pharmacy preparing products issuing knowledge and not taking responsibilities of safety to keep their brand safe.
So in my opinion professional of health care should not allow to make private practice. He must be bound to follow govt. service.
Otherwise the Indians will go without health care. china will have more than 3/4 share (WHO 2012 report) for his traditional medicine. and you will see Chinese medical practitioner and Indian will attain it. As well as Chinese Pharmacy making drugs in India.

I hope you can understand if you are a Indian.

and not MBBS/BAMS/BHMS/BUMS.

And off course I expect comments against it. Definitely that will be cry of MBBS this is mine and not humans

Kunal Kale

In Reply to Bhagavan ps 4 years ago

I think following points should be considered.
1. BAMS is 100% integrated course to pass. if not prove it. Consider question paper or syllabus to oral exam.
2. If there is a problem about Prescribing medicine then consider this.
a. say Ayurvedic practitioner to go without antibiotic in emergency.
b. say Allopathic practitioner to practice without serpentine in HTN.
More than 87% of modern drugs are modified stage of traditional medicine only considered antibiotics are new drugs not mentioned by any means in tradition system. And More than 94% of Traditional medicine practitioner is using simply modified old drugs.
See what is basic these people are using resources to treat people for better life. but the people related with this decision can not be considered human, because they are challenging the basics of life that if you become one degree holder you could not have another. it doesn’t matter you have better skill than previous. does it means ones you are Idiot always Idiot. Really these are not human being to consider just kept away these people from govt. system, otherwise next day they will say the Law graduate could not be considered for MLA and if it is so and previously listened then think how many parliamentary member will go home. and still if you don’t get it consider you are proving rejection of science. and humanity of your. As I believe every human Being could be act as Doctor if Knowledge with appropriate training is given by a body approved by law. MBBS is not actually that. frankly it is pressure of world bank with WHO to fund India passed in Govt. misused by MBBS or supporter. So it is not the war of knowledge or actual relief to the patient. it is the war of Pharmacy preparing products issuing knowledge and not taking responsibilities of safety to keep their brand safe.
so in my opinion professional of health care should not allow to make private practice. He must be bound to follow govt. service.
otherwise the Indians will go without health care. china will have more than 3/4 share (WHO 2012 report) for his traditional medicine. and you will see Chinese medical practitioner and Indian will attain it. As well as Chinese Pharmacy making drugs in India.

I hope you can understand if you are a Indian.

and not MBBS/BAMS/BHMS/BUMS.

And off course I expect comments against it. definitely that will be cry of MBBS this is mine and not humans

Merchant M S

In Reply to Bhagavan ps 4 years ago

If you have a kin who have done BHMS, BUMS or BAMS, look at their face on graduating. They attend the college to become doctors, churned out to be neither a doctor nor a quack.

Bhagavan ps

In Reply to Merchant M S 4 years ago

Exactly., No body goes to college to become a run of the mill product or the worst a quack.

I love the kids, graduating students. On several interactions I find the students and fresh graduates questioning the ills, malpractices, inter and intra professional in-coordination,professional jealousy etc. This clearly indicates that they are against professional evils. But, what turns them into the ones we don't relish?

Every thing starts with a prayer, puja, blessings of elders with the only intention to become a good professional. But, the college fee, that bleeds the family, the working atmosphere that allows 'Chalta hai'attitude, the society that looks down at the simple lifestyle and that expects some glamour, market force that creates an environment that compels one to be irrational and unethical,management that expects minimum revenue from each department and enforces certain policies that doesn't permit courtesy,little charity,(Ex: Hospital registration and consultation is a must even if no medical intervention is required), demand of family members to be on par with peer group and many more factors - all add up to make them what they should not be.

The issue is how to come out from this wilderness? / The scare is can we come out at all?

Merchant M S

In Reply to Bhagavan ps 4 years ago

Please also include so called charitable institutes which want the medical team to run the unit into profits.

dr sk chaudhary

4 years ago

DR SK CHAUDHARY
I have read above all coments of allopathic doctors.one thing which is common in all comments is ego & jealousy.they all have superiorty complex and arrogancy.they never lose any chance to say quacks/bogus to institutionaly qualified ayush doctors.they are continuously making all efforts to harass ayush doctors by manipulating &misleading courts and government to pass strict orders against ayush doctors.their organizations like IMA & MCI creating monopoly in health system.they are getting 97% of health budget.their doctors never wish to go in government hospitals & rural areas where more than 70% of population is suffering from many diseases.Nothing is hidden about the worst facilities of government hospitals & mostly allopathic doctors are practicing in city/urban area they are making more and more money in their pvt hospitals & clinics.more than 70% of indian population is lower & medium class they are unable to pay heavy fee & investigations expenses.most of the ayush doctors are providing their cheap services in rural areas.allopathic doctors are frustrated & insecured after knowing that government are planning to promote ayush doctors as competent main stream doctors.thats why they are making such misconception & expressing their misconduct/agitation through mean spirited comments over ayush doctors.every one knows which type of bogus allopathic doctors are being produced after paying heavy donation&fees in private medical colleges in india & abroad like russia/kazakistan/china etc.they are sucking blood of poor population.so time is changing you should accept & appreciate such type of government decisions and stop underestimate institutionaly qualified ayush doctors.and carefully read BAMS syllabus over CCIM website before passing any comment. every person has right to learn science and to serve it for mankind.Be concentrate over unregestered/non degree holders doctors.

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Raju Kumar

In Reply to dr sk chaudhary 4 years ago

AYUSH Practitioners practicing AYUSH are not quacks. We are speaking of AYUSH practitioners practicing Modern medicine. The Supreme Court has labelled them Quacks( Charlatan).Any one cannot be above the law of the land.

Kunal Kale

In Reply to Raju Kumar 4 years ago

I think following points should be considered.
1. BAMS is 100% integrated course to pass. if not prove it. Consider question paper or syllabus to oral exam.
2. If there is a problem about Prescribing medicine then consider this.
a. say Ayurvedic practitioner to go without antibiotic in emergency.
b. say Allopathic practitioner to practice without serpentine in HTN.
More than 87% of modern drugs are modified stage of traditional medicine only considered antibiotics are new drugs not mentioned by any means in tradition system. And More than 94% of Traditional medicine practitioner is using simply modified old drugs.
See what is basic these people are using resources to treat people for better life. but the people related with this decision can not be considered human, because they are challenging the basics of life that if you become one degree holder you could not have another. it doesn’t matter you have better skill than previous. does it means ones you are Idiot always Idiot. Really these are not human being to consider just kept away these people from govt. system, otherwise next day they will say the Law graduate could not be considered for MLA and if it is so and previously listened then think how many parliamentary member will go home. and still if you don’t get it consider you are proving rejection of science. and humanity of your. As I believe every human Being could be act as Doctor if Knowledge with appropriate training is given by a body approved by law. MBBS is not actually that. frankly it is pressure of world bank with WHO to fund India passed in Govt. misused by MBBS or supporter. So it is not the war of knowledge or actual relief to the patient. it is the war of Pharmacy preparing products issuing knowledge and not taking responsibilities of safety to keep their brand safe.
so in my opinion professional of health care should not allow to make private practice. He must be bound to follow govt. service.
otherwise the Indians will go without health care. china will have more than 3/4 share (WHO 2012 report) for his traditional medicine. and you will see Chinese medical practitioner and Indian will attain it. As well as Chinese Pharmacy making drugs in India.

I hope you can understand if you are a Indian.

and not MBBS/BAMS/BHMS/BUMS.

And off course I expect comments against it. definitely that will be cry of MBBS this is mine and not humans

dr sk chaudhary

In Reply to Raju Kumar 4 years ago

dr sk chaudhary - my dear doctors i have studied anatomy, physiology,pathology,hygiene social & preventive medicine,pharmacology,toxicology medical jurisprudence,medicine,ophthalmology,ENT,surgery,gynae& obs, pediatrics according to both ayurvedic& modern scientific medicine in theoretical&practical manner during my 4.5 yrs BAMS curriculum.i done dissection of dead body & rotatory internship of one year in which 6 months of allopathy in dist.gov. hospital was included. why i cant practice for the same??????????.you can read BAMS syllabus over http://www.ccimindia.org. supreme court has made clear verdict that The position with regard to Medical practitioners of Indian medicine holding degrees in integrated courses is on the same plain inasmuch as if any State Act recognizes their qualification as sufficient for registration in the State Medical register, the prohibition contain in Section 15(2)(b) of the 1956 Act will not apply.(dr mukhtiar chand&ors v the state of punjab1998).CCIM has also cleard many time through its notifocations. we are only fighting for our rights on the ground of facts.so dont take it personaly& stop misleading courts & government.

Raju Kumar

In Reply to dr sk chaudhary 4 years ago

If you wanted to practice Modern medicine, you should have done MBBS.Obviously you did not get admission in it and then took admission to BAMS and now want to practice Allopathy inspite of studing in Ayurvedaby shortcut and illegal means.
BAMS ,BHMS practicing Modern medicine(Allopathy) is illegal and is nothing but quackery and Supreme court has clearly defined that in the following cases:
1)It is thus clear that the Mukhtiar Chand judgment does not promote quackery. The SC said clearly that they did not find any state Act which permitted a medical practitioner to practice “any system of medicine”. The vaids and hakims covered by a state notification under Rule 2(ee) of the Drugs and Cosmetics Rules could have practiced allopathy till 1964 but not after that in view of the addition of Section 15(2)(b) of the IMC Act, 1956, which was added in 1964.

2)The CCIM notification is baseless and defunct because it is based on the CCIM notification dated 19-5-2004 which has been withdrawn by the CCIM itself vide agenda no. 1 of the minutes of the 158th Executive Committee meeting of the CCIM held on 28-6-2010. The notification was withdrawn in the following circumstances:



a—NIMA filed a civil writ petition no. 10033/2005 in the High Court of Kerala at Ernakulum seeking a right for ISM practitioners to practice allopathy in terms of the CCIM notification dated 19-5-2004. It was dismissed by the court vide judgment dated 7-2-2006.

b—NIMA went in appeal to the Division Bench vide W.A.No.1260 of 2006 which was also dismissed on 12-12-2006. The court relied on Mukhtiar Chand judgment.

c—NIMA approached filed an SLP in the SC which was also dismissed.

Merchant M S

4 years ago

Will Honorable minister appoint and take treatment from these doctors?

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Kunal Kale

In Reply to Merchant M S 4 years ago

I think following points should be considered.
1. BAMS is 100% integrated course to pass. if not prove it. Consider question paper or syllabus to oral exam.
2. If there is a problem about Prescribing medicine then consider this.
a. say Ayurvedic practitioner to go without antibiotic in emergency.
b. say Allopathic practitioner to practice without serpentine in HTN.
More than 87% of modern drugs are modified stage of traditional medicine only considered antibiotics are new drugs not mentioned by any means in tradition system. And More than 94% of Traditional medicine practitioner is using simply modified old drugs.
See what is basic these people are using resources to treat people for better life. but the people related with this decision can not be considered human, because they are challenging the basics of life that if you become one degree holder you could not have another. it doesn’t matter you have better skill than previous. does it means ones you are Idiot always Idiot. Really these are not human being to consider just kept away these people from govt. system, otherwise next day they will say the Law graduate could not be considered for MLA and if it is so and previously listened then think how many parliamentary member will go home. and still if you don’t get it consider you are proving rejection of science. and humanity of your. As I believe every human Being could be act as Doctor if Knowledge with appropriate training is given by a body approved by law. MBBS is not actually that. frankly it is pressure of world bank with WHO to fund India passed in Govt. misused by MBBS or supporter. So it is not the war of knowledge or actual relief to the patient. it is the war of Pharmacy preparing products issuing knowledge and not taking responsibilities of safety to keep their brand safe.
so in my opinion professional of health care should not allow to make private practice. He must be bound to follow govt. service.
otherwise the Indians will go without health care. china will have more than 3/4 share (WHO 2012 report) for his traditional medicine. and you will see Chinese medical practitioner and Indian will attain it. As well as Chinese Pharmacy making drugs in India.

I hope you can understand if you are a Indian.

and not MBBS/BAMS/BHMS/BUMS.

And off course I expect comments against it. definitely that will be cry of MBBS this is mine and not humans

Rohit Bajaj

4 years ago

If you want people to practice Modern medicine( Layman: Allopathy) only after graduating in Homeopathy Ayurveda, etc ,What is the need for these Courses?
The system of medicine is totally different and cannot be intermixed.
Homeopathy is on the principle of "Like cures like" and Ayurveda on the Principles of Tridosha.
Let the Govt. declare that all other systems are useless and stop these courses.

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Kunal Kale

In Reply to Rohit Bajaj 4 years ago

I think following points should be considered.
1. BAMS is 100% integrated course to pass. if not prove it. Consider question paper or syllabus to oral exam.
2. If there is a problem about Prescribing medicine then consider this.
a. say Ayurvedic practitioner to go without antibiotic in emergency.
b. say Allopathic practitioner to practice without serpentine in HTN.
More than 87% of modern drugs are modified stage of traditional medicine only considered antibiotics are new drugs not mentioned by any means in tradition system. And More than 94% of Traditional medicine practitioner is using simply modified old drugs.
See what is basic these people are using resources to treat people for better life. but the people related with this decision can not be considered human, because they are challenging the basics of life that if you become one degree holder you could not have another. it doesn’t matter you have better skill than previous. does it means ones you are Idiot always Idiot. Really these are not human being to consider just kept away these people from govt. system, otherwise next day they will say the Law graduate could not be considered for MLA and if it is so and previously listened then think how many parliamentary member will go home. and still if you don’t get it consider you are proving rejection of science. and humanity of your. As I believe every human Being could be act as Doctor if Knowledge with appropriate training is given by a body approved by law. MBBS is not actually that. frankly it is pressure of world bank with WHO to fund India passed in Govt. misused by MBBS or supporter. So it is not the war of knowledge or actual relief to the patient. it is the war of Pharmacy preparing products issuing knowledge and not taking responsibilities of safety to keep their brand safe.
so in my opinion professional of health care should not allow to make private practice. He must be bound to follow govt. service.
otherwise the Indians will go without health care. china will have more than 3/4 share (WHO 2012 report) for his traditional medicine. and you will see Chinese medical practitioner and Indian will attain it. As well as Chinese Pharmacy making drugs in India.

I hope you can understand if you are a Indian.

and not MBBS/BAMS/BHMS/BUMS.

And off course I expect comments against it. definitely that will be cry of MBBS this is mine and not humans

Raju Kumar

4 years ago

What an absurd step taken by these foolish politicians.
They are promoting Quackery and is against Supreme Court Judgements. A Writ Petition should be filed against such nonsense immediately in the High Court.
Is the Maharashtra IMA Sleeping?

suresh

4 years ago

Urban doctor will not go to rural areas because they want more money which they can get only in big city by fleecing gullible patients and by putting fear in their life.

It is a very good move by the Maharashtra Governmnet, at least those doctors who have studied allopathy can prescribe in allopathy medicines.

Anyway, it is now very difficult to get a MBBS degree anyway provide there is enough fund in the money and we know what kind of Doctor we get thereafter who only prescribe unwanted tests in a particular laboratory and expensive medicines of big pharma co.

There was a time when Doctors were treated with great respect. Now, i don't have words to say.

To clarify, there are some good doctors too but they are fast disappearing.

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Raju Kumar

In Reply to suresh 4 years ago

Just having a short course only in Pharmacology does not amount to learning Modern Medicine ( Layman term: Allopathy).

dictator

In Reply to Raju Kumar 4 years ago

allopathy is not a layman term dear sir...first u know wat is layman term and then talk about rthese things....orelse otherwise just dont do any comment.....

Sourav

4 years ago

Yes, it is always better to add water to milk to make-up its shortage, rather than increase milk production.....the quality of milk be damned !!!

Shameful & shocking decision.

PFRDA eases norms for registration of fund managers

New Delhi: In order to boost the National Pension Scheme (NPS), the Pension Fund Regulatory and Development Authority (PFRDA) has relaxed norms for registration of pension fund managers to ensure greater competition by removing cap on the number of Pension Fund Managers (PFMs), reports PTI.

 

As per the revised guidelines, PFMs would have to market the NPS to the potential subscribers, deciding their own marketing and distribution channels as per their business perceptions, Finance Ministry said in a statement.

 

The new norms issued by PFRDA on the basis of the recommendation by GN Bajpai Committee, has done away with the bidding process for appointment of fund managers.

 

It has laid down the eligibility criteria for PFMs and also removed the limitation on the number of fund managers for for managing the retirement corpus under non-government and private sector segment. Henceforth, any eligible company can undertake the business of fund management under the NPS.

 

Under the revised norms, PFMs have been given freedom to fix their own fees.

 

"It is expected that this would provide for an economically viable business model for the PFMs attracting a fresh set of entrants into the pension industry, and the resultant competition would ensure market driven fee structures, which would work to the advantage of the pension subscribers," the statement said.

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 Prem Pandhi was my first guru in management techniques. I learnt not to decline any work by giving excuses; if I did not know a job, I learnt from him that I would seek the answers and talk to others to know.  I never left any job for the next day, regardless of the time, whether it was paper work or typing of import license application forms. I had wonderful colleagues like (Mrs) Phil Henderson, (late) Promod Ganguli and Ram Mohan Sinha. We were a fantastic team who were assisted by BK Dey an accurate typist, the most silent person I knew.

 

 Zinc oxide is an item that is used while preparing the rubber mixes for tyres before they go into the moulding machines. Dunlops, like all other tyre manufacturers, had to import zinc metal, which was given to converters like Binani Metals who would process and return the zinc oxide to us. Our exports were picking up, and related imports, under “export promotion licenses” were my responsibility. These would be processed by Capexil or EEPC and I had established good rapport with all officers of the councils as well as the joint chief controller imports & exports in Calcutta. In a likewise manner, establishing drawback of duty, though a very long and cumbersome process, was part of the scene, involving factory visits, submission of statements, customs and central excise, etc.  Prem Pandhi would give the job, and ask me to study and get it done; “ask me for any assistance you need” was his friendly approach. He was patient to hear and clear in his advice.

 

 Now when the application for zinc import license was “approved” some smart Alec decided and reduced our import value by 14% all because, when zinc metal was converted, it would produce 14% more of zinc oxide! I had taken up the issue with (late) K Rajagopalan (DGTD) and presented my case, asking the government to give me the full value of export entitlement and, if, in the process of conversion, we received more zinc oxide, which would enable us to manufacture and export more tyres/tubes, this would be indirect incentive, and that it should not be reduced. I won the case, much to the delight of my immediate boss, and others like Moni Mohan Sabherwal and Madhav Lal Capoor, besides the top management.

 

 Encouraged by Prem Pandhi’s approach, against the normal permission of using 10% of the import entitlement to use for machinery imports, using similar arguments, I was able to get an ICT data processing machine for our factory, much to the satisfaction of PK Mukherjee our asst works accountant, by utilising 100% entitlement license. But all these good work came to an end when Prem Pandhi's recommendation to the board for making me a “special assistant” (meaning an officer grade) was not accepted. He resigned on the spot; which I came to know some thirty minutes later, and I followed suit, with no job on hand.

 

Without my idol, I did not cherish the idea of working in Dunlops. Couple of days later, Prem Pandhi offered me a job in the Calcutta Management Association, in which he was closely associated, mentioning to others that “Ramdas has the latent talent that needs to be moulded”.

 

 My ‘understudy’ assignment with CMA lasted for nine months. As I was about to complete this, I began looking for suitable openings, specifically related to export, as I responded to the call that our PM Jawaharlal Nehru had made: “Export or Perish”.

 

 After a long and tough interview, I joined the Indian Cables, a subsidiary Indian arm of BICC (British Insulated Callenders Cables of UK, the world’s oldest and largest company, at that time). I was one of the three management trainees and reported to Jan Manekshaw (brother of late Field Marshal Sam Manekshaw, who was, at that time GOC at Fort William, Calcutta).  My immediate boss was Kishan Kapoor, general sales manager, who was aided by Adi Dalal, a brilliant young man, who passed away very early in life.

 

After a few months of training, which included three weeks at Jamshedpur, we returned back. My contacts with the EEPC staff were regular and every import enquiry was promptly attended to. Small and regular orders started coming in, and, we took the orders from agents like CIEL (Commercial and Industrial Exports, which had some Tatas association).

 

Later on, when we started getting enquiries from VD Swami & Co Private Ltd, Bharat Exports and few others, we began to make some headway.

 

 As I regularly attended the various panel meetings of the EEPC and began to take part in workshops, etc, some senior exporters began to notice my activities, resulting in Dr RK

Singh, secretary (at that time, who later became executive director) getting me involved in various committees.

 

Back in the office, at the Indian Cable, soon after I joined the company, we lost Pillu Shavaksha, our MD. I think he was succeeded by Dr William James John Curry, who came from UK; Arun Basak, a brilliant chartered accountant, who was formerly with Indian Oxygen was already on board; Ronnie Bowyer at the works, aided by Dr A P Sabherwal and S Ganapathy.

 

 Our office timings were 9.30 to 5.15 but I was always the first to come by 8.30 in the morning and the last to go. From time to time, Jan Manekshaw would give special jobs some of which related to the Non-Ferrous Metals Association and I would complete them to his satisfaction. Likewise, when we had some small licensing problems, he would seek my assistance.

 

In the meantime, our overseas sister companies, all independent operators, began to send their urgent requirements, which came from Malaysia and from Singapore a great number of tenders for their expansion. Our orders began to flow, once we supplied our first lot to a company called Boon Liew. Malayan Cables from Petaling Jaya also placed regular orders.

 

 It was around this time a major upheaval took place, as our rod mill broke down. Apart from the company’s own requirements, this mill processed many other companies’ needs by converting their bars for further processing. This was a well-kept secret.

 

 I was therefore totally surprised when one morning I found the whole bunch of directors in the lobby seriously discussing something. It was about 8.30 or so, I wished them, as I passed by towards my office. It was Jan Manekshaw who called out: “Ramdas come here. We need a license urgently. Can you get one?” Spontaneously, I replied, “No problem sir” and waited for him to go on. And it was Kish Kapoor who responded, saying “Do you know what we are talking about?”  “I have no idea except we need a license.”

 

From the beginning he was not friendly or accommodative and I felt reserved in dealing with him. My efforts to know him were in vain and he was always ‘official’ in dealing with me. There was no warmth, which was the basis of my relationship with Jan Manekshaw and many others. He continued: “Suppose you cannot?”  For me, it was a do or die situation. “Mr Kapoor, if I can not get a license in India, no one else can, that I promise you; but I won’t fail.”  There was absolute silence until Dr Curry announced: “Jan give this job to Ram Dash... I think he will deliver the goods”.  Saying this, he walked away; the crowd dispersed.

 

 Co-ordinating with Jan Manekshaw, I was able to get the relevant details from Alex Fernie, the purchase manager. Using my contacts with Rajagopalan, Mondal and PC Sen, the joint chief controller of imports & exports in Calcutta, I obtained the license in a record 48 hours, much to the chagrin of Kish Kapoor.

 

This episode was followed by many relating to dealing with government departments. And at every stage of work matters I depended upon Jan Manekshaw, who became another idol and guru for me.

 

While writing all this, I forgot to mention that ever since my working career began, I began to read all sorts of success-related books. Everyone reads Dale Carnegie’s “How to Win Friends and Influence People”. I did too; but, to me, it was Dr Napolean Hill, who authored “Think and Grow Rich” which changed my outlook towards life.  Not only did I read this book every time I could lay my hands on it, but the entire series written by him. This is one author whose books should be used as a reading and practicing material for all our students.

 

 Our exports began to grow; while indigenous sales brought profits for the company, exports brought both name and profits. Everything was going fine, until, 6 June 19766, Sachin Chowdhry, our finance minister, devalued the Indian rupee by 57.4% sending shock waves in the country.

 

 We shall discuss the impact and changes that happened thereafter in my concluding chapter...

 

(AK Ramdas has worked with the Engineering Export Promotion Council of the ministry of commerce and was associated with various committees of the Council. His international career took him to places like Beirut, Kuwait and Dubai at a time when these were small trading outposts; and later to the US. He can be contacted at [email protected])

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4 years ago

Nice to see you writing here. Hope all is well. JP

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