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February 06, 2010 04:14 PM | Bookmark and Share
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Online shop eBay’s popular electronic payment system PayPal seems to have been blocking all personal transactions to and from India. Strangely, it has offered no justification for this decision

In a perplexing move, popular electronic payment gateway PayPal Inc has suddenly started blocking personal transactions to and from India. PayPal was allowing business transactions till a few days ago, but now has also stopped it along with personal and gift payments.

PayPal is an online payment and money-transfer service that allows you to send money via email, phone, text message or Skype.

This move from PayPal has left thousands of its Indian users, especially IT coders who work with many entities overseas and receive payments through PayPal, high and dry. Users whose transactions have been reversed are venting their frustration on online forums and message boards. Funds requested through PayPal India are being reversed to their senders, and users have no access to them.

Here is the standard response PayPal is sending to customers:
“Your payment of xxx has been sent back to the sender of the payment. We reversed this payment because we have stopped allowing personal payments to be sent to or from India.

“If this was a payment for a purchase of goods or services, and not a personal payment, then you may contact the buyer and have him or her resend the payment as follows: (a) click the Send Money tab, (b) select “Goods,” and (c) provide a shipping address.

“If this payment was a personal payment such as a gift, then we have requested that the sender find another payment method until we restore personal payments to and from India. We are trying to resolve this issue as quickly as possible and we’re sorry for any inconvenience.”

According to a reports from techcrunch.com, Anuj Nayar, director for global communications at PayPal had said, “I can confirm that personal payments to and from India have been suspended while we address some questions from our business partners. You can still make commercial payments. We’re trying to resolve the situation as quickly as possible and we’re sorry for any inconvenience this may cause.”

Last year in November, the Indian government had issued a notification (No No.13/2009/F.No.6/8/2009-ES dated 12 November 2009) for prevention of money laundering. Under this notification, the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) has asked all banks and financial institutions to maintain proper record of all transactions and verify identity and address of a non-account based customer or a walk-in customer.

Payments to and from PayPal to its account users in India may also involve the foreign exchange maintenance act (FEMA) that has been under a cloud over the black money issue. On Friday, many renowned personalities had filed another petition in the Supreme Court seeking a direction to the Indian government to bring back unaccounted black money to the tune of around Rs65 lakh crore (Rs65 trillion) stashed away in banks abroad. 

Although PayPal provides money transfer service to and from India, neither the company nor its account holders pay any tax on the transaction. When Moneylife contacted the RBI to know about the PayPal issue, an official said,”We have no idea why this is happening. PayPal doesn’t come under RBI’s purview.”

The question is then how can the country receive money, in foreign currencies, without any accountability and supervision? Some of the comments on techcrunch.com also say that many Indian account holders ask their payee to make the payment as a ‘gift’ rather than payment for services to avoid PayPal fees. One such comment said: “A lot of business must be transacted in India via PayPal—business done with personal transactions. So a money-hungry Indian government is aggravated at some perceived revenue loss (taxes, customs, etc.) and (has) put pressure on PayPal to stop the payments either directly or indirectly.”

We don’t know. What we know for sure is PayPal users from India are left with no alternative but to search for an alternative payment service.  Team
 



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21 Comments
Kushal 6 months ago
This is so frustrating. I had withdrawn an amount X from my Paypal account and made a personal remittance to the ICICI Bank account. It had been around 15 days since I heard from them. When contacted this is what they replied:

I checked your PayPal account and I do see here the withdrawal you made on February 10, 2010 for Rs.XXX INR. Right now, the status of the withdrawal on your PayPal account is already completed, and this is because the funds were successfully taken from your PayPal account balance. Now, I am sure that you are aware of the issues that we have had with bank transfers to Indian accounts. Now, basically right now, we will not be reversing the funds back to the balance anymore as we are still trying to have it posted on the bank instead. Rest assured though that the funds are safe and will be credited to you.

In the meantime, I would recommend that you check and visit http://www.thepaypalblog.com for updates on this matter.

We hope you understand our situation and thank you for your patience.

—-

What crap? Now they say they are NOT going to reverse the funds back too…. If Paypal takes 6 months (or even more) to get this issue of personal remittance sorted out, we have the funds blocked. WHAT ARE THEY DOING WITH THE MONEY?
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deepak shah 6 months ago
we have mailed several times but did not received a proper reply to our question.
From your e mails it seems that you are unable to send bank to bank transfers than instead of transfers why don’t you send the checks for the withdrawls.
It has been nearly 20 days and matter is still not solved.
Every e mails says that you can not give the exact time frame. Now more time has been passed than the time frame limit.

The us goverment has a strong lobby and can pressureze indian goverment to look in to the matter.
Your intentions seems to dubious, It seems that you just want to use Indian people money.
We are not big dealers we sell small items on the net and have to pay our suppliers.

deepak
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Sam 7 months ago
Thank you for contacting PayPal.

I understand your frustration regarding your payments getting reversed.
If the payment was for a purchase of goods or services, and not a
personal payment, please contact your buyer and have him or her resend
the payment by following the steps below:
1) Log in to their PayPal account
2) Click the Send Money tab
3) Select “Purchase”
If the payment was a personal payment, such as a gift to a friend or
family member, then we request that you find another payment method
until we restore personal payments to and from India.

Yes, we do allow Personal payments from USA to Saudi Arabia; however,
your brother can open an account in Saudi Arabia but cannot receive
payments since Saudi Arabia is one of the Send Only countries.

The regulators recently let PayPal know about revised licensing rules
that we are now actively engaged in securing. Personal payments to and
from India will be suspended for at least a few months until we fully
resolve the questions from the Indian regulators.

Thank you for giving us the opportunity to be of service and for
choosing PayPal for your online payment needs. We value your business
and we look forward to further strengthening your customer satisfaction.
For further assistance, you may call us at 1-888-221-1161 or you can
also visit http://www.PayPal.com/101.

Sincerely,
Joanna Marie
PayPal, an eBay Company
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Joydeep Bhadra 7 months ago
I opened a graphics studio and employed 4 guys. I think this is a noble cause. I give photoshop services to photographers from various part of the world and have been receiving payments through Paypal. I am left with hardly few bucks after paying my employees and office and internet. I have been filing IT return for the past 4 yrs and I dont have any secret bank account. I am earning foreign exchange on behalf of my country. How can Govt. of India be so partial and kill my business and throw my associates out of job. Can Govt. Of India provide job to these PS experts? No, I bet the govt. cannot. This Indian govt. is most impotent and corrupted in the whole world.
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Shahid M 7 months ago
Hi Everyone,

This is M. Shahid from VOX Public Relations on behalf of PayPal. Just wanted to let you know that PayPal has posted an update on the situation here: https://www.thepaypalblog.com/2010/02/update-on-paypal-situation-in-india/

Thank you,
M. Shahid
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mahesh 7 months ago
Issue not yet resolved:

8th February, 8-30 PM

Just made another call to Paypal customer care and had a chat with Supervisor too. They are having technical issues and developers are working on it. They are telling that issue will be resolved this week.

Here is the new recording of Paypal Chat:(8-02-2010) 10.1 MB

http://filekeeper.org/download/shared/Paypalcall_08FEB.mp3

The chat with the supervisor has more clarity.

Mahesh
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Alex 7 months ago
i have withdraw $500
no amount is come on my bank account
and its showing negative balance.

what is going on..
we have to put a joint case against Paypal
and if someone know alternate please Help
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Siva 7 months ago
After all , Now the issue is resolved Today around 7PM(IST). I got a new Personal payment.
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anjali 7 months ago
Hi,I was having very high image of pay pal and thinking their service to be the best and trusted and voted them to be the numero uno of online processors of payments but why this discrimination to Indian workers we were peacefully using their service to receive and making payments for our online activities and If they are doing this suspecting something mischievous acts let them check and verify but do not punish the online earners this way.. people earn some money doing work should not be treated like this for trusting pay pal.
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mahesh 7 months ago
Hi all,

The issue is not yet resolved as on Feb 7th night…

Here is the recorded file of a conversation with a Paypal customer care employee on February 7th, 2010..

The issue will be resolved only by Tuesday/Thursday and they are not providing exact reason for the issue…Download and hear it…6MB mp3 file

http://filekeeper.org/download/shared/paypalcall.mp3
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Timir Patel 7 months ago
Paypal done this without any intimation and how can paypal reverse money from our account once they have credited.

If they have stopped personal payments to and from India. then they have to block the option by sender side that he can not

send payment in India.

I got USD 577 in last few days. I have also requested to withdraw money in bank account. See what happens !!!!!!

Paypal canceled all my withdrawal requests and credited USD 542 and reversed to senders.

I got credit of USD 542 instead of USD577. Even if withdrawal requested are not completed (Deducted exchange rate fees). But

how can they deduct exchange rate fees even if transactions are not completed and money are sent back to senders.

Now I have negative balance. And I like that balance will become positive by deducting from credit card.

Who can tell that paypal is safe way payment method ????

No steps are taken in front of paypal.
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aryan 7 months ago
@Aryan's Father - Dude fuck you and gimme a break...It's not about being a millionaire or shit FFS...get a life and stop replyin with idiotic names! I have already sent them emails and got a reply as well...So suck it...People like u can bark but cant take any action! Sleep in ur mom's laps now
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Kausar 7 months ago
It is really sad suddenly Paypal have stooped all the personal transaction. Really dont know what could be the reason. Hope they can resolve the issue ASAP.
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Harsh agrawal 7 months ago
Rumors are also there that these sudden change in policy is brought up by them when they announced the new way of paypal account verification in India. Reason may be what so ever, its us who are suffering,...
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Worried India paypal User 7 months ago
Hello ,

[ LATEST NEWS: Even after submitting in services or goods with proper shipping address is also Getting reversed. ITS HORRIBLE ]

To-Paypal

We were shocked to see your sudden change without any notice you are doing reversal.
and we are getting mail daily now that you are revering the payment...How can you do this without any prior notice??

and from what date it is effected?

It is very serious issue and at least you should inform us so that we could have made some alternatives. some times there will be trouble in getting the payment from customer and now those customers will not at all pay.

Now we have one of the client he says he has not got any payment revered so I cant send the new payment though we got deducted{reversed} in this case will you able to pay that amount?

I dont know on by what date it effected and I see that you are doing daily one by one transaction reversed it COST US LOT.

AT THE MOMENT WE ARE THINKING TO CLOSE THE ACCOUNT AS WE ARE NOT SURE TOMORROW YOU CAN BRING SOME NEW RULES AND WITHDRAW ALL OUR MONEY OR REVERSE.

If you can answer this as soon as it will be fine if not we need sort out legally from our end.

By- Frustrated India Users
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Aryan's Father 7 months ago
aryan you ***hole . Stop making nonsene post by posting your uploaded files . no one is going to download your shit and you are not going to be a millionaire with that uploading.com . We are already furious and dont poke into this matter again .
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aryan 7 months ago
Hi All,

I request you all to raise your voice to the top management of paypal. I have made a sheet of 110 contacts of the top paypal executives! I request you to send in your complaints and post your response here!

http://uploading.com/files/d16472c8/Paypal.xls/
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adam 7 months ago
Very Strange,

Lots of Indian Freelancers do work and accepts payments from Paypal on many freelancing webistes like http://getmeafreelancer.com

This is not good for them, becauase they have to search alternative to get payments!
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pankaj 7 months ago
Yeah Thats Truth!

Here is another discussion regarding this!
http://www.developersolution.com/news-and-general-affairs/top-news-paypal-stoped-payment-india-t-20.html#pid51
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P Ghosh 7 months ago
PayPal has robbed me of 5 of my recent payments on 5th and 6th Feb. They amount to $1,055. Of which 2 of the payments (total $196) I have been able to recover, as the clients were good enough. The rest is for work that has been delivered. Now, however nice clients are, they do not show the urge to pay once they have received the service. So I am worried about the remaining 3 payments.

My questions to PayPal are:
1. How old payments are going to be reversed (which date)? The payments that were reversed till now came to me between 2 and 6 Feb. Are they going to reverse older payments? There are so many!

2. Do we need to change our online shopping cart settings now? I have shopping cart in three of my websites : http://www.writer4me.com, http://www.portraitnpainting.com and http://www.online-teaching4u.com. I use Virtuemart shopping cart (for Joomla). Do I need to change any shopping cart setting now that payments must come as payments for “goods”? If so, what?

3. Why were we not informed 15 days in advance? Who gave the permission to paypal to touch my money? I discover with horror one morning that my account balance is fast disappearing. WHY did PayPal do such a horrendous thing that amounts to no less than scam? They have robbed my account balance without taking my permission. Will such a thing ever be expected of a bank? What will be the reputation of a bank that reduces the account balance without prior permission or information? Will PayPal take the responsibility of re-collecting the amount that was reversed, and that I lost? Why would PayPal not be made to compensate this amount, since I have provided this service already?

4. I had withdrawn $700 from PayPal on 4 Feb, which was cancelled by PayPal on 5 Feb. Why would a legitimate withdrawal be cancelled? I had withdrawn on 1 Feb also, which has not yet reached my bank account today, on Feb 6th. Come on, what is happening?

This is no less than a financial scam involving the money of thousands of PayPal users. We have lost our money for using PayPal. PayPal should be taken to court for playing havoc with our hard earned money! And I am going to do so.
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ria 7 months ago
Without RBI's knowledge how can the government restrict PayPal?????

If this is the case, Paypal would have made a notification and blamed India Government...This is not the real issue..

Please view the thread at:
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1681660&page=60
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